Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hagen Troy

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR Mark Arsten (talk) 22:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hagen Troy[edit]

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Shameless (self?)-promotion by two (or perhaps just one?) closely-connected single-purpose account(s), User:Taylor.monki and User:Yingjie.huang; it's hard to tell through all the Chinese text, but appears completely to fail WP:NM. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 16:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 16:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - The article needs serious clean-up, but I did find a decent number of interviews, notably this by The Strait Times (actually ST Communities, but it's still The Strait Times). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. User:Yingjie.huang has now been blocked as a sock of User:Taylor.monki. I suggest that if there is to be an article on Hagen Troy (and I'm as yet far from convinced that there should be), it should be a clean start, and that this COI mess should be deleted to make way for it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Non-notable, promotional. stcommunities is a user posted site, user submits story and website publishes it. Caffeyw (talk) 09:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I'm not sure if this proves ST Communities' reliability, but I can see that a number of Wikipedia articles use it as a source. of course, if consensus determines that ST Communities is not reliable, then the articles which use it can should have new sources. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 11:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note. Narutolovehinata5 poses a valid question about Straits Times Communities, I think; I've posted about it at Reliable sources. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Without endorsing STCommunities in general for everything, I trust the specific article in question, as it is from The New Paper, just reprinted on The Straits Times. As they're owned by the same holding company, I tend to believe it's a good reprint. Here is an additional article: "Hagen Troy – Finding his Passion", Ezyhealth. --GRuban (talk) 16:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your opinion. I've now removed some of the more obviously unreliable sources from the article, but am hampered by my total ignorance even of what kind of Chinese text much of it is written in. The remaining sources are these:

http://dramahaven.com/name/bountiful-blessings/
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Showbiz/Story/A1Story20130513-422132.html
http://breathe.sg/choices/knowing-loving-and-respecting-yourself-the-choice-is-yours/
http://www.ezyhealth.com/magazine/hagen-troy/
Knowing, Loving and Respecting Yourself: The Choice Is Yours. Breathe.sg (2011-06-08). Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
没品 (可以不可以) “Out of My League”. Breathe.sg (2011-05-03). Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
银河网路电台. Iwant-radio.com. Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
銀河網路電台. Iwant-song.com (2007-10-16). Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
孙耀威永远保护你歌词. 666ccc.com. Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
《女人们的咖啡》)_搜索_互动百科. Hudong.com. Retrieved on 2012-08-19.
http://www.afa.org.sg/act/38/TheAct38.pdf}
http://yule.zhishi.sohu.com/question/33301062.html?fr=srch&"
Top 10 Pop Albums in 1st Half of 2009. English.cri.cn (2009-09-29). Retrieved on 2012-08-19.

Would anyone care to comment on the reliability or otherwise of those? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:31, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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