Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadja Maffire Bangura

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The result was redirect‎ to Mafory Bangoura. There is a consensus below not to retain, and I have chosen the AtD of the two options which formed that consensus. Daniel (talk) 22:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hadja Maffire Bangura[edit]

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Delete: as insufficiently notable. Fails WP:GNG. Nirva20 (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC) Nirva20 (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, and Africa. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or REDIRECT to Mafory Bangoura, if same person. Nirva20 (talk) 22:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Inclusion in Historic Dictionary of Guinea (4th ed) seems a good indication of notability. We don't know what the "Bureau politique national" is/was, nor whether the "posts in the ... government" included any ministerial posts which would contribute to notability.

Obviously an African person active in politics who died in 1956 is not going to have much coverage in material available online today, so their inclusion in an established national biographical dictionary has to be taken as significant. But another source or two would be an improvement. PamD 09:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is there's only one source, I've been able to access the source and confirm she's in the source, but the source is closely paraphrased. The President of I believe Liberia sent condolences to Guinea upon her death, but her date of passing doesn't match the date in the source, that source also says she was the Minister for Social Welfare. Maffire is also spelled Mafoury and Bangura is also spelled Bangoura if you're looking for a before search. The Dictionary of African Biographies also has a longer blurb on her but says she was the minister of social affairs starting in 1971, also after the reported date of death. So I'm leaning keep, but it needs a copyvio cleanup. If someone has good access to sources, this article can be clearly marked for improvement. SportingFlyer T·C 10:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Just out of curiosity, are we sure that the source doesn't just have an error on the death date? I'm seeing Mafory Bangoura (i.e. Hadja Aissatou Mafory Bangoura), an article on a tailor (seamstress) by trade who was a Guinean independence activist active among the Susu and in Conakry at the same time as the person described by the source. That individual was also active in the PDG, and was Minister for social affairs. The names of this article's subject and that individual above are spelled quite similarly (they may well be alternate transliterations). This could be my ignorance of the article subject more broadly, but how sure are we that these are different people? — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Almost certain this is an alternate transliteration based on how many details match between the sources. Would vote redirect. SportingFlyer T·C 21:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Tried a French-only Google search and the BNF [1], rien (nothing). Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about the other names, but French would almost certainly use the spelling "Bangoura" rather than "Bangura". Phil Bridger (talk) 09:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mafory Bangoura. Given the similarities in name and biographies, I think it is almost certainly the same person. Jfire (talk) 01:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 23:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per all the arguments above. There is one source used, so the article clearly fails WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 02:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am also inclined to believe that if "Hadja Maffire Bangura" had been notable and not just a misnomer, there would have been more avaliable sources, like the ones displayed on Hadja Mafory Bangoura. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect >>>Mafory Bangoura, definitely a potential search term.Djflem (talk) 17:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question @Nirva20: Have you done a Wikipedia:BEFORE and read WP:AFDLIST (which states It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the articles that you are nominating for deletion. Do not notify bot accounts or people who have made only insignificant 'minor' edits. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the article. For your convenience, you may use {{subst:Adw|Article title}}.? Familiarizing yourself with both is wise and helpful if you are going to make AfD nominations. It does not appear you have notified creator, who may be able to shed light on the subject. Djflem (talk) 18:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*:Ok. Thanks. I will notify the article's creator. Nirva20 (talk) 18:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Djflem -- I notified the article's creator of this AFD (which you had already done) and apologized for not notifying them earlier. You're right. I should have done so but forgot in my haste. Nirva20 (talk) 18:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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