Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gertrude Flynn

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 19:59, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gertrude Flynn[edit]

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Minor character actress with no indications of notability. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:32, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:00, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Seems to get some minimal coverage in older newspapers, see Gnews archive search. I think she passes the notability bar. —SW— ^{spill the beans} 20:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Perhaps you could elucidate with a few of the hits you consider "significant". If I perform a GNews archive search with the terms "Gertrude Flynn" +actress; I come up with 15 hits which appear to consist entirely of reviews in local newspapers of plays in which Ms Flynn appeared. Hardly enough to base a biography on. Remember that the bar is not "brief mention" in independent sources, but rather signficant coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:58, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per prolific verifiable pre-internet careeer spanning 58 years, and her having named roles in multiple notable productions of stage, film, and television meet WP:ENT. The fact that her Broadway stage career ended far before the internet was ever conceived does make finding online sources difficult, but her body of work can be verified and we do have at least a few online sources that speak toward her performances, even if minimally. Yes, the GNG is a wonderful guideline, but WP:NTEMP grants that not all sources will survive in perpetuity. And worth noting, a newspaper theater review of the 1920s, 30s or 40s (or even today) will never be about any one actor, but rather will be about the play itself and the director and mention the players in relationship to their overall performance. We need keep in mind that 1) hardcopy archives of per-WW2 news artcle may well have been destroyed in the various salvage drives that supported the war effort back then, and 2) the ones that did survive from 70 to 90 years ago may well not all be available through a google search. We can also look toward more in-depth reviews and comentary and book coverage of the more major films she was in through the 50s and 60s to see how critics addressed her (again - pre internet) characters. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:57, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notability did not begin with the Internet. She appears to have had many supporting roles in many major films, starting with Barefoot Contessa, as well as a long Broadway career, when that mattered. Bearian (talk) 19:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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