Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fox Cave, Shmankivtsi
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. The WordsmithTalk to me 21:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Fox Cave, Shmankivtsi[edit]
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A small local cave in Ternopil Oblast (Ukraine), not significant, is not a monument of nature, without history, without geological discoveries. Микола Василечко (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Микола Василечко (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- … and with sources authored by Volodymyr Dobrianskyi already in the article. Your personal estimation of significance is not what we base things on. Notability is not subjective, and fame and importance was rejected as a criterion in 2004. Unless you have a counterargument to the several sources in the article, that at first blush appear to be authored by a Ukrainian expert in the field and give multiple detailed physical characteristics of the subject at hand, you do not have an argument for deletion. Uncle G (talk) 07:47, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- I generally agree with Uncle G but would like to see one source that's not from Dobrianskyi. My search quickly became difficult, but can't yet argue for deletion. SportingFlyer T·C 10:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 17:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sources listed in the article and described by Uncle G above make a prima facie case for notability that has not been refuted. Eluchil404 (talk) 01:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)- In enwiki is 9 pages about caves in Ukraine. Really in Ukraine more caves about which there are no articles and which have natural history, cultural history, etc. Fox Cave (Really name is English? Please source for this name. ) is not without nature history, without geological history. --Микола Василечко (talk) 16:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 01:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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