Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EFanzines

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Try improving it and then if that doesn't work, consider a merge and discuss that on the appropriate talk pages. After improved, or attempted improvement, you can always re-nominate. But, after three relists we haven't really came to any better conclusions. I appreciate you all respecting this decision and assuming good faith. Thanks. Missvain (talk) 15:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EFanzines[edit]

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Non-notable, no reliable sources at all. Mansheimer (talk) 14:38, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's something we would desire to be able to explain, given the role it's played as a repository of culture, how it's been referred to in passing in scholarship as the place to find something, and how it's opened up the science fiction fanzine culture (see the Langford ref I added) and made it available. I've started doing some work on the sourcing; will see if I can find more. /Julle (talk) 18:49, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it was previously undeleted (Dec 31, 2007). --Cewbot (talk) 00:03, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Logs: 2007-12 ✗ deleted, 2007-12 move to → User:Ghostwords/EFanzines, 2007-12 ↻ restored, 2007-12 ✗ deleted

Merge or Keep: I agree with Julle's argumentation that this topic is encyclopedic. Secondary sources have been added, so there is definitely content to WP:PRESERVE and this article should not be deleted. I am fine to keep it, but the coverage found so far is not a lot. So a merge, e.g. to (the bottom of) Fanzine#Science fiction would also be a good solution in my opinion. Daranios (talk) 08:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 10:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not enough sources for notability.--Blurz (talk) 02:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Third time is the charm.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning Keep. This is a tough one... It appears that several notable works somewhat rely on this website for their distribution. There are mentions of the site all over the internet regarding where to find certain published pieces, but there isn't much (readily available, at least) describing the history of the site and its establishment, etc. Since WP:NOTINHERITED is not a policy I'm going to lean keep. Although it did not win, the Hugo nomination is significant. Locus reported that they won a FAAn award for best website in 2018 and 2017. Hard to say how significant that is, but looking into the history of it here, it looks like this site has won that award so frequently, they withdrew from the category after receiving a special recognition. It's clearly niche, but it seems pretty notable within that niche—enough so for my !vote, at least. -2pou (talk) 00:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.