Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dylan Playfair (3rd nomination)

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The result was keep. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 09:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan Playfair[edit]

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Dylan Playfair

Actor whose articles have been deleted twice and still does not satisfy general notability. Only one of the references is significant coverage. One appears to be an interview, and two of them are database entries about his brothers, but notability is not inherited.

Number	Reference	Remarks	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	www.thestar.com	Toronto Star story about roles	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
2	theathletic.com	Paywalled, but appears to be an interview	No	Probably	Yes	No
3	eliteprospects.com	About one brother's hockey career	Yes	No	Yes	No
4	eliteprospects.com	About another brother's hockey career	Yes	No	Yes	No

This article does not indicate any new achievements in the past two years since the last AFD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dylan Playfair (2nd nomination). Robert McClenon (talk) 03:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Television, Ice hockey, and British Columbia. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete and salt:~~ Didn't meet the GNG the first time around. Didn't meet the GNG the second time around. Doesn't meet the GNG now. Never has met NACTOR. Time to salt this sucker so we don't have to keep doing this. Ravenswing 04:31, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: Still not sold on the fellow's notability, but there are enough articles that I can't really in good faith maintain a deletion stance. Ravenswing 14:13, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Some other sources: The Sporting News (a partial interview) [1], story on nhl.com [2], Calgary Herald [3], the Prince George Citizen [4], the Gate [5], the North Shore News [6]. A Vancouver Sun article from 2016 [7]. I'm sure we have notability, he's mentioned in pages after pages on Gnews, sustained coverage for over 5 yrs and multiple interviews. He's in the Mighty Ducks tv series, Letterkenney and was in Descendents 2 and 3, Disney movies. Multiple roles as an actor. Oaktree b (talk) 04:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b agree with this user. the sources provided in the article are quite decent and fullfiling 化の (talk) 21:03, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm not sure if I should weigh in since I made this version of the page. I did it without knowing it had been made two other times in in 2020 and 2017. While that may show a lack of research on my part, doesn't it in some way show public interest in the subject? Regarding Playfair meeting notability, is there a difference between notability guidelines depending on country? Canada has a very small TV and Film scene, so it's very hard for actors to "break through" as they say. I will keep editing the page in the coming days to add sources and information. I look forward to seeing further discussion on this page! Oangie (talk) 06:13, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I think the key metric here is WP:NACTOR. On the WP:BASIC test, it looks to be borderline. But does the subject have multiple "significant" roles? I don't think the Descendants films role is "significant". So then it comes down to Letterkenney and Some Assembly Required. I am skeptical that the subject meets NACTOR. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He's also in the Mighty Ducks TV show Oaktree b (talk) 14:27, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That would be multiple, significant roles. Appearing in just a third of the episodes, being fourteenth down in the cast list, and not being so much as listed on the show's official website does not strike me as a "significant" role. Ravenswing 14:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He's been in 7/10 of the episodes. Was a season regular/recurring but not main cast. Season 2 isn't out yet, if you basing 1/3 out of 20. WikiVirusC^(talk) 14:47, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Recurring roles are generally not considered "significant", esp. as sometimes even so-called "main cast" roles are not all that significant. So I would say Mighty Ducks does not contribute to the WP:NACTOR test. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:36, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was just clarifying the episodes as it was more than 1/3. WikiVirusC^(talk) 15:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is not. Those eps have been filmed, and Playfair does not appear in them. Ravenswing 22:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take your word for it. Regardless it goes both ways, I don't look at future episodes seasons when considering how many episodes someone has done so I don't look in the future for what hasn't been done. Hadn't seen news that it finished filming so wouldn't have even thought to do that anyways. Recurring regular in season 1, was my main point nothing more. WikiVirusC^(talk) 01:23, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, he's also a secondary character in Letterkenney, he's been in 63 episodes or so but is not the lead. I'd say his role is slightly above what he's done in Descendants, top tier secondary if that makes sense. Oaktree b (talk) 14:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He at least passes GNG, he's got a few dozen pages of results in Gnews, interview after interview. The four or five articles I mentioned, he's mentioned in the Sporting News, on the NHL website and about a dozen Canadian newspapers. Oaktree b (talk) 14:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BASIC is probably a higher benchmark than WP:GNG – the qualifications need to be higher for a WP:BLP. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We have multiple independent sources, in addition to the Toronto Star article, I'm sure BASIC has been met. Oaktree b (talk) 19:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep . The sources provided by Oaktree are convincing enough that the subject passes GNG. Flibirigit (talk) 16:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
agree with both of you @Flibirigit @Oaktree b 化の (talk) 21:03, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep . besides meeting WP:GNG with the new sources, he may also meet WP:NACTOR as he appeared in over 50 episodes in two different TV shows, having a Wiki page, showing they are notable TV shows.Lovewiki106 (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes criteria 1 of WP:ENTERTAINER as a main cast member in two different television programs and roles in multiple films.4meter4 (talk) 03:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.