Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denise Oliver

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The result was redirect to List of Canadian voice actors#O. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Denise Oliver[edit]

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Fails notability standard for people/actors and general notability.. Article is a one sentence unsourced mini-bio followed by list of roles, most unsourced. Sources that exist are not reliable. Previously speedied in 2010 and recreation PRODded in 2012. Time has not improved available sources or notability. Suggest that article be salted if deleted. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 16:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CptViraj (📧) 16:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. CptViraj (📧) 16:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:23, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:25, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not enough reliable sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak Delete~~ ~~Weak Keep~~ Weak Delete or Redirect or Draftify: I'm really struggling to find coverage on the subject. I hope someone can find some sources, because she has done a lot of work—enough to justify an article, in my opinion. Dflaw4 (talk) 01:50, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have upgraded my vote in view of the fact that she won a Behind the Voice Actors award in 2016 (https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/btva-awards/2016/television/). Sources are still sorely needed, however, so I might change my vote again if no progress is made in that respect. Dflaw4 (talk) 10:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2nd update: Given that no further progress has been made in regard to sources, I have amended my vote again, to reflect the possibility of "Redirecting" or "Draftifying", as proposed by Spectrum. Dflaw4 (talk) 01:55, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidhe 03:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm unable to find RS, and this article is, at best, a stub of a non-notable person. --Dreamanderson (talk) 18:00, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Leaning redirect to List of Canadian voice actors#O as not all entries there are bluelinked, and roles indicate WP:LSC is likely satisfied; with ECP applied to prevent tendentious recreation. However, there seems to be some conjecture above that sources will eventually be found, in which case it can be converted to a userspace draft to work on until the sourcing is good enough to pass through the AFC process, and moved in over redirect. Pinging Dflaw4 to see if there is any interest in hosting this in userspace. Spectrum {{UV}} 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 18:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spectrum, I would support your suggestion of Redirecting. To be honest, I'm not sure how successful a more thorough search for sources may be—although, that being said, I don't think there'd be any harm in Draftifying the article. I don't know that I would be the right person to host it in my userspace, however, because I don't think I'll be able to work on it all the much. But, if there are no other candidates, I guess I could host it. Dflaw4 (talk) 01:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Canadian voice actors#O per above. It's only a moderately likely search term but redirects are cheap. It also has the advantage that if Dflaw4 or anyone else eventually wants to work on it, the page history will be there so it can be copied to a user-sandbox so long as WP:CWW is adhered to. Having thought it over I'm not sure about what if any level of protection is appropriate given that the disruption is long-past and so it may run afoul of the policy against preemptive protection, so I'll leave that to the discretion of the closing admin, and offer no opinion either way. Spectrum {{UV}} 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 03:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment there seems to be consensus to redirect to List of Canadian voice actors#O. However, it's not clear to me that the list accepts non-notable entries (at the moment all links are blue). And if the consensus on that list is/would be to not accept non-notable entries then you have a redirect to nowhere so I am reluctant to close that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barkeep49 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Barkeep49: If you look at all entries in List of Canadian voice actors, you will notice many are not blue-linked starting with Drew Adkins, so it appears WP:LSC is met, although I'm unfamiliar with all the discussions resulting in that decision. Spectrum {{UV}} 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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