Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deepak Kalal
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Deepak Kalal[edit]
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He is famous for marrying Bollywood actress Rakhi Sawant and for his video 'Modiji, main aapko pappi dunga.Fails to meet WP:GNG and falls under the scope of WP:BLP1E. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 15:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and India. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Firstly, as nominator mentioned, Deepak Kalal falls under WP:BLP1E, signifying that his biography predominantly revolves around a single significant event. You cited his fame for marrying Bollywood actress Rakhi Sawant and for his video titled 'Modiji, main aapko pappi dunga,' which, interestingly, highlights his presence in two distinct events. This raises a question about the validity of the nomination. Nevertheless, I am open to engaging in a discussion to uphold Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
It's worth noting that Deepak Kalal had achieved notability even before his association with Rakhi Sawant. He garnered attention when he was featured in news reports, such as when he was beaten up, as reported by Times of India and India.com. Additionally, he received media coverage regarding his expected participation in the TV show Bigg Boss, as highlighted here.
Multiple occasions saw Deepak Kalal featured in various news outlets, including here, here, here, here, here, and here, as well as here. These examples, among others, demonstrate a consistent presence in reliable sources, solidifying his status as a viral internet sensation. Deepak Kalal's notability unquestionably aligns with WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG.Thank you. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 16:00, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Marrying Rakhi Sawant was one significant event that was covered by some gossip news sites, and
'Modiji, main aapko pappi dunga
was a regular video that garnered more views than his other videos. It's important to distinguish between being famous and being notable. He was beaten by the public for his crazy acts, and I don't believe he deserves a standalone article for this. His stint on the Bigg Boss show lasted only 24 hours, during which he was covered by some daily updates and gossip media websites. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 01:40, 6 September 2023 (UTC)- Times of India, India Today, India.com, The Indian Express and Latestly are not gossips websites. He has been covered at different events on these reliable websites. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 16:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- The articles from The Times of India and India.com revolve around incidents where Deepak Kalal was beaten by the public. The headlines for these articles are “
Infamous YouTuber Deepak Kalal Gets Beaten Up On Cam In Gurugram
” and “Deepak Kalal Again Beaten Up By The Same Metro Guy For Misbehaving
,” respectively. According to WP:ICTFSOURCES, The Times of India is considered a questionable source, while India.com is regarded as unreliable. Regarding the Indian Express source, it's a brief list where Deepak Kalal is mentioned only once, and this doesn't provide SIGCOV. As for the India Today source, it's reliable and thoroughly covers the topic (SIGCOV). However, it's essential to understand that meeting the GNG requires more than three sources. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 18:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- The articles from The Times of India and India.com revolve around incidents where Deepak Kalal was beaten by the public. The headlines for these articles are “
- Times of India, India Today, India.com, The Indian Express and Latestly are not gossips websites. He has been covered at different events on these reliable websites. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 16:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Internet and Maharashtra. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:14, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: what about notablity? clearly fails in WP:GNG Worldiswide (talk) 02:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Based on the guidelines outlined in WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, and the definition of a "Reliable source," I have conducted an evaluation of the notability of the subject, Deepak Kalal. The following table summarizes the coverage of Deepak Kalal in reliable sources:
As per this evaluation, Deepak Kalal meets the notability criteria for a stand-alone article, having received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This coverage spans from 2017 to the present day and encompasses various aspects of his public life, including his association with Rakhi Sawant, appearances in India's Got Talent, and more.
Thank you. ❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 03:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Notable based on the reporting. Furthermore, he's notable enough of a public figure that he was recognised and attacked in public twice within the space of 2 days. GraziePrego (talk) 06:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- It's just human nature that if someone acts out of line with someone else, things might escalate to physical confrontation. Maybe take another look at the titles of those two sources to see that Deepak Kalal didn't get beaten up because he was famous, but rather due to his misbehavior. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 11:00, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I went through all the sources in the table added by TheChunky, and anyone can verify their titles and content, which primarily revolve around gossip, updates, and rumors concerning Rakhi Sawant and Deepak Kalal's marriage.
| Analysis of the sources table added by TheChunky |
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| The first source comes from India Today and was posted by the India Today Web Desk. It doesn't have a specific author, so we can't really consider it reliable. Furthermore, this source is all about Rakhi Sawant's marriage, which falls into the WP:BLP1E category, as I pointed out during the nomination. |
| As for the second source, it's also from India Today, and I mentioned in my previous response that it's a reliable one. |
| The third source is an update from PTC Punjabi. |
| The fourth source is from Women's Era, and the fifth and sixth sources are sources from ABP News, with the seventh source being from Latestly. They all contain gossip about Rakhi Sawant and Deepak Kalal's marriage, so they fit under the WP:BLP1E sources category. |
| Next up, we have the source from Firstpost, the ninth one from India TV, and the tenth source from News18. These are tag links where Deepak Kalal was tagged, and all the articles in that tag are gossip and rumors about Rakhi Sawant's marriage. |
| The eleventh source is from India TV, and it is also a gossip and update about Rakhi Sawant and Deepak Kalal. |
| The twelfth source from NDTV is a video update. |
| Finally, the last source, from DNA, is also gossip or an update about Rakhi Sawant and Deepak Kalal's marriage. |
Almost all the sources are about the marriage of Rakhi Sawant and Deepak Kalal, as I mentioned in the nomination. Deepak Kalal was in the news for marrying Rakhi Sawant, which clearly falls into the WP:BLP1E category. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 11:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - The assessment by DreamRimmer is more accurate. Should also note that WP:NEWSORGINDIA applies to some of the references including this and this and this to name a few. Forgot to add sig.--CNMall41 (talk) 05:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, making an appearance on a talent show (India's Got Talent) and pulling stunts which will obviously result in physical altercation thus making gossip news with headings such as "All you need to know about..." does not signify notability (or pass WP:RS) as the subject did not win the show and was not a runner-up. Further more, I noticed the opening statement of the subject's article says he's an actor (an occupation which comes first) but there's nothing mentioned of him portraying any role other than that of a talent show. It reads that he was featured in various popular songs and albums of which are not listed and the only musical composition mentioned is a song titled "Next Level" which also does not appear to be notable as it does not have any certificate. As far as my research goes, the subject does not have any award nor nomination listed under his name to back his career as either actor, content creator nor musician, he made news for his marriage and making public appearance(s) with his companion. shelovesneo (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Very different assessment of sources, could use a few more days consideration.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:59, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable person. Citadeol(talk) 17:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. DrowssapSMM (talk) 20:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
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