Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David L. Hoffmann

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The result was speedy keep. Agreement that he is a notable academic. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:15, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David L. Hoffmann[edit]

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I think this page fails WP:AUTHOR. Yes, he published several books, but are they significant?. Yes, the books were cited, but I doubt he qualify per WP:Author #1. I do not see significant reviews of his books. Were his books favorably reviewed? Did they receive a sufficiently wide recognition? I do not see any links or references currently on the page to justify notability, and the search does not quickly identifies such sources. My very best wishes (talk) 20:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:43, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Author-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Snow keep Via WP:NPROF C5 from the distinguished professor position. His citations also look like a probable pass of WP:NPROF C1. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

According to his website [1] (is it an RS?), he is a "Distinguished Professor (since 2017) ... in Ohio State University". They do have such position, however, checking the Ohio State University website shows that in 2017 other people, not him received it [2]. Same in 2016, 2018, etc. Wrong info? What am I missing? My very best wishes (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep OSU lists him as a distinguished prof. WP:NPROF criteria is met. Lightburst (talk) 22:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sure I saw this link on the page. However, according to their web site, other people received this position in 2017 [3]. Something must be wrong. What is it? Regardless, one must have multiple secondary RS about the person or his work written by other people (reviews, articles in newspapers or journals,etc.) rather than a couple of websites to establish notability and create a meaningful page about a person per WP:BLP. My very best wishes (talk) 22:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Author The Stalinist Era Cambridge University Press. I will see what else I can find. Lightburst (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, he published several books, exactly as I wrote in the AfD nomination. My very best wishes (talk) 23:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep via WP:PROF#C5, also likely WP:AUTHOR. What User:My very best wishes appears to be missing is that at Ohio State, "University Distinguished Professor" (the list they linked) and "Arts and Sciences Distinguished Professor" [4] appear to be two different but similarly-named titles of distinction. He has one but not the other. But either is good enough for our notability criteria. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:24, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I can see it here. He was recognized a Distinguished Professor not by his University, but one of the Colleges at the University (Arts and Sciences College). This is probably not the same level of notability as our guideline recommends. I still think we need multiple secondary RS about the person or his work written by other people (reviews, articles in newspapers or journals,etc.) rather than a couple of his official websites on his work place to establish notability and create a meaningful page about a person per WP:BLP. My very best wishes (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found one of his books had been professionally reviewed and to read it I need to pay $34. gulp. I am adding refs now Lightburst (talk) 23:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: meets WP:AUTHOR, with reviews readily available. After a cursory search, I've located reviews in H-Net and The American Historical Review for Cultivating the Masses. Review of Stalinist Values in The Journal of Modern History, plus a review of Stalinism in Europe-Asia Studies. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that resolves it. Let's keep the page. My very best wishes (talk) 23:52, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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