Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D-Cubed

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mr. Rimmer, please note that though the software may be used, it is not necessarily notable under Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, which require in-depth discussion of it (reviews in major publications, etc.) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

D-Cubed[edit]

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lack of sources independent of subject. Clearly fails WP:GNG on sourcing, leaving either needing more sources or evaluation of whether the academic sources are widely quoted. Possibly this should be userfied by User:Jon Rimmer (SPA / disclosed COI editor). Widefox; talk 09:11, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please find below a list of additional secondary references about the D-Cubed technology/history. The technology is widely used so there are many other references, but they tend to be brief, or don't have much secondary analysis. I hope the references below will help to establish notability. If I can do anything further to address any remaining concerns about the page, please let me know. Thanks.Jon Rimmer (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(1) A detailed, independent review of the main D-Cubed technology:

D-Cubed’s Dimensional Constraint Manager, Christoph M. Hoffmann, Journal of Computing and Information Science in Engineering, March 2001

http://computingengineering.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/article.aspx?articleid=1399189

(2) An academic paper describing an implementation of the D-Cubed components, indirectly referencing their functionality. Includes brief explicit description of the role of D-Cubed components in constraint solving, collision detection and physical simulation:

"Combining Dynamic Modeling with Geometric Constraint Management to Support Low Clearance Virtual Manual Assembly", J. Mech. Des. 132(8), 081002 (August 2010)

http://mechanicaldesign.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/article.aspx?articleid=1450105

(3) A broad review of D-Cubed technology, applications and customers in a national IT publication:

CHIP Romania, June 2013 (pages 58-61).

http://www.chip.ro/librarie?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=4869

(4) Industry blog with D-Cubed history and technology overview:

http://camzone.org/2011/09/07/component-technology-theres-no-fun-without-it/

(5) Industry publication with brief description of the D-Cubed components’ various applications:

http://www.digitalmanufacturingreport.com/dmr/2013-02-28/siemens_boosts_plm_with_d-cubed_update.html

(6) Also, the academic research basis of the main D-Cubed components is discussed in 2 academic papers by their original developer J.C. Owen. These are widely cited:

(a) "Algebraic solution for geometry from dimensional constraints", J. C. Owen, Proceedings of the first ACM symposium on Solid modeling foundations and CAD/CAM applications, p.397-407, June 05-07, 1991, Austin, Texas, United States

Citations: 52 (http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=112573&dl=GUIDE)

(b) "Constraints on Simple Geometry in Two and Three Dimensions", John C. Owen, Int. J. Comput. Geom. Appl., 06, 421 (1996).

Citations: 9 (http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0218195996000265#citedBySection)

Some of the papers that reference (6) also include various references to D-Cubed technology, though they are probably too brief to include on the D-Cubed page. I can add some of these too if it's recommended though.Jon Rimmer (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as lacking in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Of the above refreence spam, only this one is good for this purpose. Feel free to ping my talk page if solid sources get added to the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, since the technology is embedded into bigger systems, it isn't often explicitly discussed at length, even though it's well known in its field. Having said that, here are a couple more independent secondaries. Both decribe research based on the D-Cubed components and provide some coverage of what the technology is for:

A Constraint Manager to Support Virtual Maintainability, Marcelino, L, Fernando, T and Murray (section 4.2 cites D-Cubed as basis of research)

Combining Physical Constraints with Geometric Constraint-based Modeling for Virtual Assembly Abhishek Seth, 2007 (pages 109-115 cite D-Cubed as basis of research).

Jon Rimmer (talk) 16:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 15:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete "it isn't often explicitly discussed at length" is an understatement. Delete as non-notable, lack of significant coverage by reliable sources. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I think there are several in-depth sources above which are from reliable publications, the most significant of which are (1), (3) and (6a). Unfortunately these sources may be difficult to access (subscription), although the latter publication has ~50 citations in other academic research, which may help corroborate significance. Regarding notability, in addition to references above, an online search yields broad coverage e.g. a source for the article’s opening paragraph from the Chicago Tribune. Do the reviewers think the sources are still lacking, given it's a specialist subect area? Is it a problem accessing content in major sources, or just down to the number of sources? Thanks Jon Rimmer (talk) 18:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC).[reply]

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