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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tone 17:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Caryn Richman[edit]

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Unremarkable person, minimally sourced, WP:BEFORE turns up nothing substantial. —S Marshall T/C 20:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 20:41, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Google, JSTOR, ProQuest, Gale and NYT searches did not yield WP:RS that showed WP:N. Z1720 (talk) 23:05, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Just barely passes WP:NACTOR#1 as she had starring roles in two marginally notable TV shows: The New Gidget (2 seasons, US broadcast) and Hollywood Safari (3 seasons, Animal Planet). pburka (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • According to which sources, please? If you've been able to find something independent, substantial and reliable then I will need to withdraw this AfD with apologies.—S Marshall T/C 12:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • "WP:V doesn't require "substantial" coverage. It doesn't even require independent coverage for certain things. Unless you're claiming that these shows were elaborate hoaxes, they're easily verified. i.e. I can demonstrate that she starred in two or three notable productions, but I can't demonstrate that she passes GNG. pburka (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • NACTOR isn't an alternative to the GNG. It says someone is "likely" to be notable if they've starred in notable productions: it doesn't say that they "are" notable if they have. In other words, I feel that the point of NACTOR is to allow time for sources to be produced. I emphasize that this article has existed for fifteen years and was first tagged as an unreferenced BLP ten years ago. In the circumstances, I feel that adequate time has been allowed, and I put it to you that this biography of a living person should now be either sourced properly or deleted.—S Marshall T/C 16:25, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree that she clearly passes WP:NACTOR #1 based on the Brady Bunch sequels, the New Gidget series & TV movie, and 71 episodes of the TV show Texas. --Krelnik (talk) 14:47, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There is a lot of mentions meaning lots of details. Very long career. Passes WP:NACTOR, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 21:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You seem very confident! Mysteriously, I still don't seem to see any sources in the article?—S Marshall T/C 21:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Pburka, passes WP:ENTERTAINER, so it can stay. --☆★Mamushir (✉✉) 20:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wikipedia requires actual sources, not IMBd which is not realible. We cannot keep an article on a living person without any reliable sources at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Would you change your !vote if we added some references to demonstrate the verifiability of her notable roles, e.g. Robertson Wojcik, Pamela (2020). Gidget: Origins of a Teen Girl Transmedia Franchise. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 9781351734035., Owen, Rob (1999). Gen X TV: The Brady Bunch to Melrose Place. Syracuse University Press. ISBN 9780815605850., and Hixon, Michael (Nov 12, 2013). "'Hallelujah Girls' comes to Hermosa". The Beach Reporter.? pburka (talk) 21:12, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss the relevance of Pburka's sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It was very easy to find sources on Newspapers.com, which has lots of articles specifically about Richman and her work. "Gidget's giggly comeback" (Honolulu Star-Bulletin, 1987) is about her Gidget role, "Texas actress a singer, too?" (Rock Island Argus, 1982) is about her role on Texas, and "Caryn Richman enjoys her move from Tuxedo Junction to Texas" is about her singing career. I would recommend that everybody in this discussion register for the Wikipedia Library, where you can get access to Newspapers.com for free. It can solve a lot of heated AfD discussions. — Toughpigs (talk) 17:26, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve. Subject had a lead role in the portrayal of an iconic character. BD2412 T 20:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I believe she meets NACTOR for the roles mentioned above (as well as Grease since she was in the original on Broadway) 1 and the GNG for the sources referenced above. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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