Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bugtime Adventures

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bugtime Adventures[edit]

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Only appears to have one truly in-depth source. A search for more sources only found throwaway mentions and snippets of short, stubby coverage. Dronebogus (talk) 07:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - as is there is no sign of notability. And some searches didn't turn up much.--Surv1v4l1st ^{▌Talk|Contribs▌} 21:44, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The show has an entry in the Christmas-special encyclopedia Happy Holidays — Animated! as well as a syndicated newspaper article that was widely published in 2005. It's not a lot, but it may be enough to demonstrate notability. — Toughpigs (talk) 04:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think the brief discussion of a Christmas Special in an obscure encyclopedia counts as in-depth coverage. This article’s case for existing is still looking incredibly flimsy. Dronebogus (talk) 15:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the "obscurity" of a published reliable source is relevant. — Toughpigs (talk) 18:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does not; the problem is that you made a false claim that the show has an entry in that encyclopedia. It does not. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly does, see below. — Toughpigs (talk) 03:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep with the Milwaukie Journal Sentinel piece as well that makes coverage in three reliable sources so there is no valid reason for deletion in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- What Milwaukie Journal Sentinel piece? It is not linked here nor in the article. Nor do I see any other "three reliable sources" anywhere. What are they? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All three are listed in the article's References section, see below. — Toughpigs (talk) 03:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:26, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No in-depth coverage found; the claim that the show is covered by another encyclopedia is FALSE. As can be seen in [1], the Happy Holidays—Animated! A Worldwide Encyclopedia of Christmas does not discuss the show - it only discuss a single XMAS-themed epsidoe of it. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It absolutely does discuss the show. There is an entry for "Joy to the World (2006)", which says:

"Episode from Bugtime Adventures, a children's religious television series created by Jeff Holder that interwove Biblical events with fictional stories around a community of arthropods who lived in nearby Bugglesville. Consisting of 13 episodes, the series aired on Christian TV stations in 2006."

It then goes on to describe the Xmas-themed episode in detail, followed by voice and production credits. The listing describes the show, as well as a specific episode of the show. The entry is currently used to back up these sentences in the article: "Bugtime Adventures is an American children's animated series that began airing in 2006. 13 episodes were produced, to air on Christian TV stations like TBN." and "Bugtime Adventures interleaves historical events described in the Bible with fictional stories of a community of bugs who live nearby in Bugglesville." The source says exactly what I claimed that it said.

The other two sources are the August 2005 syndicated article (Allentown Morning Call) that I described above, and the December 2005 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article listed in the References section. That makes three. — Toughpigs (talk) 03:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That’s not an in-depth discussion of the show. That’s a summary followed by an encyclopedia entry on one episode. Dronebogus (talk) 02:09, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

still enough for WP:GNG imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 13:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.