Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bloodstained (series)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The general consensus is that a series article is premature, but a redirect is suitable and it can be revisited in the future. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:41, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodstained (series)[edit]

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Premature creation. There are currently only three video games in this series, and while reliable sources are available, they largely cover the individual games and not the series as a whole. Glades12 (talk) 09:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The most detailed RS coverage I can find right now is this: Carter, Chris (2019-09-23). "IGA still has plans to make Bloodstained a series, WayForward helping to smooth out Switch port woes". Destructoid. Enthusiast Gaming. Glades12 (talk) 09:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Although individual games are notable, a series article is premature, and not yet supported by RSs as a series. Worth revisiting when/if Bloodstained 2 happens.--Alexandra^IDV 11:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
FTR my previous post had nothing to do with the amount of games and only about the existence of sourcing - the last sentence was only meant to say that I can see the situation change in the future, and was not an argument in itself.--Alexandra^IDV 12:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per WP:IGNORINGATD. Whether it should be redirected can be discussed elsewhere, but no argument has been advanced why it should be totally deleted, nor why a redirect until there are enough entries to justify a series article in your eyes would be harmful._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 12:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(Prepare for a wall of text.) I don't think a redirect would be harmful per se, but I don't think there's a good target for one. The only content the article on Ritual of the Night contains about a prospective franchise is "Igarashi had stated that given the amount of time he has spent in developing the Bloodstained intellectual property, he sees the game as 'a starting ground' for future Bloodstained games." It does contain about half a paragraph on Curse of the Moon and a short sentence on Curse of the Moon 2, but that's it. CotM 1 and 2 are essentially spinoffs, so they would be even worse redirect targets than RotN. Finally, this independent article is not sustainable either due to the lack of truly relevant, independent sourcing. These issues all create a situation where deletion is the only option as far as I can see. Glades12 (talk) 13:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You say there is no series, but with 3 games there is already a series. Kid Icarus (series) has been there since 2006 and only has 3 games. While "it's harmless" is usually a bad argument to make, I legitimately can't see the reason to delete this and make navigation of the series harder for people, especially when it's fairly likely to expand in the future. It seems like needless bureaucracy to me, in the letter but not the spirit of the rules._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Bloodstained RotN per Alexandra. The two smaller games are minor offshoots and thus only gives us three games in a series. Until Bloodstained 2 is actually confirmed and we can write more than a stub about it, it is better to talk about the "franchise/series" as a section of the main game's article. A series or franchise article just doesn't make sense at this time. --Masem (t) 15:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: per Alexandra // Timothy :: talk 14:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there are enough sources that mention this is a series, and that make comments comparing the gameplay and themes throughout the series. You could argue that those mentions are trivial and would involve a lot of cherry-picking, but this is where WP:NLIST should apply. It's clearly a discriminate list of games and there is enough to write about them together, as a related concept. Archrogue (talk) 19:11, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.