Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bergman, California

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The result was delete. The strongest arguments showed there were not sufficient sources to meet WP:GNG or WP:GEOFEAT. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bergman, California[edit]

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This arguably could have been speedied given that it's a 4th class PO sourced to Durham with no GNIS trace and no likely candidate on the topos, but since there is a second source, here we are. Unfortunately that source also identifies it only as a PO, so I see a failure of notability here. Mangoe (talk) 16:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Having a post office named after your place typically establishes it as an actual populated place, which passes WP:GEOLAND, and notability is not temporary. While there are rare cases where this is not the case, such as postal facilities serving an institution, this is clearly not the case here and if it were, we should merge/redirect rather than delete. Smartyllama (talk) 09:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

4th class post offices were ubiquitous as dirt and only slightly less ephemeral than houseflies— and far more peripatetic. On top of that they changed names frequently as they were moved about, as they were commonly named after the person who owned the house or store where the post office sat, or his wife, for that matter. It's not much of an exaggeration to equate them with the group mailboxes one sees in recent developments. Mangoe (talk) 14:42, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Since this was not a legally recognized place, it needs to meet GNG per GEOFEAT for populated places without legal recognition. There is not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. // Timothy :: t | c | a 13:43, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Multiple sources [1][2] describe this as a stagecoach station and a ranch. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.