Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artur Avagyan

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The result was delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:48, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Artur Avagyan[edit]

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:02, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - This isn't like a Speedy Delete under G4, where an article has been deleted at a discussion. I don't mean to question the good faith of the nominator, but that part of the rationale is completely without merit. Since the person plays for a professional / national team, GNG appears to clearly be met. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 01:23, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not how it works. The General Notability Guidelines (which is the #1 priority) are met when person has received significant coverage. Has this person received coverage? No. That means it fails under that category. Playing for a fully pro team/national team would meet WP:NFOOTBALL. Does this person meet NFOOTBALL? No, because he hasn't played in a fully pro league match nor has he capped for the national team. – Michael (talk) 04:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per Dennis Brown. The player has been included in the national squad on 3 occasions, in European qualifiers for the FIFA World Cup. Begoon ^talk 01:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Armenian league is not fully professional as required by WP:NSPORT and all though he has been called up, he has yet to actually play for the Armenian national team. As for general notability, I am yet to see any evidence he has received anything more than routine sports coverage. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Being called up doesn't mean a thing. He still hasn't appeared in a match for the national team nor is the Armenian league fully pro which means he still fails WP:NFOOTBALL. He also fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. – Michael (talk) 00:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 10:20, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Begoon, as playing on 3 occasions in European qualifiers for the FIFA World Cup, which qualifies him under WP:NFOOTBALL. Technical 13 (talk) 17:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He's been called up, but he never played in the World cup qualifiers, which is insufficient for WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@T13: Actually, as pointed out by the experts above, it probably doesn't mean that, since he was only a sub, and not called on from the bench, hence not gaining a cap. Now, I think that's probably too strict, and should maybe be changed - but it does seem to be the guideline, and I was unaware of that when I voted. I'm leaving my vote as "keep", because I would keep the article myself, but it does seem policy may not support me. He'll probably get to run on the pitch for the national side soon, then it can be recreated if it gets deleted. Begoon ^talk 17:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He'll probably get to run on the pitch for the national side soon, then it can be recreated if it gets deleted. Or he'll suffer a long term injury before having any chance of capping for the national side. WP:CRYSTAL. – Michael (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Walls of Jericho (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - you'll actually has to earn a cap to pass WP:NFOOTY, being included in the squad is not enough. As the player in question hasn't played in a fully pro league either or received significant coverage in reliable sources he fails both WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mentoz86 (talk • contribs) 09:57, 21 June 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

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