Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ares program (The Martian)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Martian (Weir novel). Compromise between those who want the article gone and those who think there is salvageable material: The article is removed, but the page history preserved for merger-ers (and discussion of what if anything is mergeable). As noted, that a different topic merits an article does not mean that this one does. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ares program (The Martian)[edit]

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Removed prod, of non-notable fictional organization. Sadads (talk) 03:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non-noteable fictional organization. Could easily be explained on the book's page, if needed. Comatmebro (talk) 04:26, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to The Martian (Weir novel), cutting down as necessary. Artw (talk) 13:24, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but, a page about a chess game in the 2001: A Space Odyssey film can exist, but my page must be deleted? It is not fair. --Aledownload (talk) 16:36, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This argument probably comes up in every other deletion debate, but see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS for why it's a wrong argument. Notability is determined only by how many reliable sources exist, not by how similar one article is to the next. Those sources also must be about the subject of the article, not whatever the article is featured in._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 01:54, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's a minor part of the novel and movie. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:45, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge to the movie. Not notable in itself. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:46, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per WP:ATD-M; none of the above !voters explain why merging is inappropriate. Jclemens (talk) 05:48, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- What's there to merge? Ares 3 brought him to Mars, and he hoped to rendezvous with Ares 4. All else is in-universe background material. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:40, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - That would be the content of the article in question that gets merged. Were you asking something else? Sure, it could be rewritten from the primary sources, but that's just a petty move when some editor went and did all the work already, just not in an independently notable article. Jclemens (talk) 02:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - What I'm getting at is that the synopses in both articles are just fine without the extra program details. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947^{^{^{(c) (m)}}} 04:02, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with the main article. Does not have reliable sources on its own to support an article. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. There is no real reason to keep this article separately, in universe commentary should not be on Wikipedia unless it had major impact on reality, which this has not. The main article may or may not benefit from this material, I will not comment on that. A den jentyl ettien avel dysklyver 13:26, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources themselves define the topic as not notable...although a merge into the principal article should be fine. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:56, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947^{^{^{(c) (m)}}} 20:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.