Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agnetha Åsheim

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 08:52, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Agnetha Åsheim

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In line with the deletion decisions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kjersti Bø and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maximilian Pupp, this is another retired Norwegian skier who competed in the World Cup of Skiing but never finished very high or attracted much attention.

Skiing doesn't have an SNG to use as a rough guide to notability, so we have to go by WP:GNG, per WP:SPORTCRIT. I have done a reasonably thorough BEFORE search (for an English speaker), and I have found no in-depth sources about the subject. There were only routine interviews/fluff pieces in the local paper ITromsø, and listings on sports statistics pages. As she has been retired for over ten years after a very brief career, it is unlikely that any further in-depth sources will emerge. Per SPORTCRIT, Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources...is not sufficient to establish notability; we cannot maintain this article on the basis of stat pages. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:00, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

• Keep, while the WP:BEFORE was respectable enough for an English speaker, it can by no means cover the relevant sources. I added multiple non-trivial in-depth third-party sources to the article, often about Åsheim and her teammate as a sporting duo. "Fluff piece" and "routine" are of course tendentious terms seeing as she actually won something (hence the degree of "fluff"), and the sporting championships were held "routinely". So now there's both prolific World Cup competitions as well as newspaper backing in the mix. Geschichte (talk) 07:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

• Geschichte, presumably those ITromsø articles you added were accessed online; perhaps you could include URLs so other editors can access and review them? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

• Most articles found via the search engine http://nb.no/search can't be accessed by non-Norwegian IPs, but luckily, Tromsø can! Geschichte (talk) 17:21, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

• Geschichte, thanks for adding the URLs. The thing is though, having a bunch of sources in the local paper (and ITromsø is only a municipal-level paper, with a circulation of less than 10,000 copies) isn't sufficient to support a claim of notability on an encyclopedic level, for a couple of reasons. First, WP:N requires topics to have gained "significant attention by the world at large"; coverage in a local paper doesn't pass that bar. The single Nordlys source has a better scope, but it's still only regional, and without the URL there's no way to evaluate the article's depth or content. Second, under WP:SIGCOV, "multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability;" that is, all those ITromsø articles are generally considered to be one source, not several. So basically there's routine hometown coverage, and one regional-level source about her receiving a local sports award. In my opinion it doesn't meet the requirements of WP:N. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:29, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

• There are tons of articles in Nordlys. I will try to add them in the very near future. Geschichte (talk) 15:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:03, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio 10:19, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Keep thanks Geschichte for due diligence and contributions. Hmlarson (talk) 21:00, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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