Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agata Materowicz

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The result was no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agata Materowicz[edit]

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Artist bio that seems to fail WP:NOTABILITY. The author has been friendly and tried to argue for notability on my talk page (User_talk:Piotrus#Agata_Materowicz_article), sadly despite their efforts, I am still not seeing anything about notability. There's no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources; author's publications are almost completely in her role as an illustrator, she has one solo article in a mainstream newspaper, her awards seem non-notable, etc. I would be happy if people could argue otherwise, particularly as it is a shame to waste the author's effort. If it is deleted, I am asking for this to be userfied in the author namespace. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:26, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 05:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 05:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 05:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am the author of this article. I would like to open discussion, how should we treat those two TV video programs about Materowicz. In my opinion, they are meeting reliability requirements and standards : “ Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.”- SOURCE WIKIPEDIA.

TV Programs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1sP3HBk3A -Video interview by TV Polsat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30jDbBE3jw8 -Video interview by TV WOT Regards The author of Agata Materowicz article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiciatycia (talk • contribs) 09:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Theopolisme (talk) 03:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It's true that lots of sources can be used to verify notability - but not that youtube is a reliable source. What we do here is say "TV Polsat interviewed Agata Materowicz on such and such a date on such and such a programme." And then we cite the original programme, air date, station, etc. We can't cite youtube, because anyone can post anything and say that it's whatever they want. I don't know about the notability here, and have not had a chance to look into it, but wanted to comment on the source issue noted above. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 19:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Ultraexactzz, Thank you for your comment. I don't agree with your opinion about Materowicz video, but I agree -we don't agree :). I have added some other reliable sources: 1.Agata Materowicz, the article: "A Puff of Absurdity , TVN Warsaw , 2011, Retrieved 10 June 2013, URL: http://tvnwarszawa.tvn24.pl/material/w-klebach-absurdow,88731,0,0.html 2.Materowicz own book, except the text, Agata Materowicz: "Mushroom Dreams”, published by A.M.Design, 2010, ISBN 978-83-62624-02-4 Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: checksum 3.Materowicz drawings in Anna Sieradzka: "Cloak, train dress, peaked for-pointed cap: art and fashion in Polish Modernism", Ossolineum, 1991, ISBN 8304024535, ISBN 9788304024533 4.Article about Materowicz in the newspaper: Warsaw Guest, page 8, Gosc Warszawski Retrieved 17 June 2013, URL:http://gosc.pl/files/old/gosc.pl/zalaczniki/2007/11/12/1194861444/1194861459.pdf 5.The article about Materowicz International Exibition: “Art for Documentation - Documentation for the art”, (paragraph#7), Anka Lesniak, Retrieved 17June 2013, URL: http://www.lodz-art.eu/wydarzenia/sztuka_obiekt_zapis5 6.Two pdf files about Shankar’s International Children’s Competition, Delhi a/ https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B98i2xjTQ6YtSE93eEVwQ09fUmc/edit b/ https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B98i2xjTQ6YtNElyb0hIa0JRa1E/edit?pli=1 7.Award for Materowicz- photo competition, URL: http://www.warsawvoice.pl/WVpage/pages/articlePrint.php/16532/article Regards The author — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiciatycia (talk • contribs) 16:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar · · 05:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the refs above: http://tvnwarszawa.tvn24.pl/material/w-klebach-absurdow,88731,0,0.html is an article by her, on a relatively mainstream web portal; few such articles still don't make one notable as a journalist (this is the case of a person being almost notable in a number of categories, but not notable in any of them). 2 and 3 - yes, she is a book illustrator, but that does not count for much, not unless her work has generated coverage in itself. 4 is an article in a small local newspaper (not mainstream), about a photo by her son; her own work is briefly mentioned (she is not the main subject of the article). 5 covers her work in one paragraph; she is not the main subject of this - this is simply a (self-published, I think) about gallery (or at best a local newspaper) article about an exhibition. 6 docs.google screams self-published so much I am not even going to bother clicking on them, sorry 7. Warsaw Voice is a (notable) local newspaper; she is listed there as one of several winners of a minor, local competition. I am sorry, nothing here is enough to warrant notability. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 15:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and userfy. The article has a lot of issues and needs work. I suggest the author take it through the articles for creation process... Can someone provide a link? :) There is some notability, but it's hard to sort out and expertise is needed to work up an appropriate article that might meet present Wikipedia standards or in future with additional coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:12, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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