Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 FIA R-GT Cup

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:03, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

2021 FIA R-GT Cup

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Non-notable event which appears to be little more than a showcase for a single car manufacturer. A before search only returned one source (Dirtfish) which appears to both be independent of the subject and to provide non-routine coverage, and even then that source is providing significant coverage of the Group R-GT category as a whole, and not of this specific season. All other sources either appeared to be non-independent (including some press-releases re-published by third parties) or to only contain routine coverage. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Oppose: All previous R-GT Cup seasons have their own article. There are currently two manufacturers (Alpine and Abarth), some Porsches are also eligible. The page might not be up to date, but sooner or later one of the editors will catch up. Wild8oar (talk) 14:02, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Can you please explain what any of that has to do with Wikipedia's general policies on article deletion? The fact that Porsches and Abarths are eligible would not make this pass the WP:GNG, and the existence of other articles on similar subjects (which themselves may or may not pass the WP:GNG) would not either (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). If the page is out of date then I suspect that that is because the subject has not received any significant coverage from sources, thus meaning editors neither know or care about the subject (due to lack of exposure if not any other reason) and that if they did want to update the article there would be a lack of available sources to cite. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per nominator's rationale. That past seasons have received articles does not mean that this one should, is not a guarantee of notability, and does not mean that those articles are compliant with Wikipedia's inclusion guidelines.
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 02:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
• Hold There are six previous FIA seasons!!! certainly it is a minor series, however it is registered and important brands such as Porsche, Abarth and now also Alpine compete !!!

HumanBodyPiloter5 is the idiot put this article in delete! --Peter39c (talk) 18:04, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

What do we do with the 2022 season that will start in January we do not write it in the article, in your opinion these events have no public? and in January when the Monte Carlo Rally starts we don't put it in the article? Hey guys, there are 90 years that racing rallies in Monaco !!! 90 years !! --Peter39c (talk) 18:12, 28 August 2021 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Peter39c (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.

• I'm finding it incredibly difficult to understand your comment. Aside from WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, do you have an argument against deletion? That the championship races at notable circuits does not make the championship itself notable.
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 08:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

• While it seems incredible to me that you who created the Template: Alpine F1 say this thing. --Peter39c (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

• What...?
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 06:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – bradv^🍁 16:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 20:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
• Hold There are six previous FIA seasons!!! certainly it is a minor series, however it is registered and important brands such as Porsche, Abarth and now also Alpine compete !!!It's probable that ACI Rally Monza 2021 will also be added too. --Peter39c (talk) 20:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC) — Duplicate vote: Peter39c (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.

• The existence of previous articles is meaningless, because there is no guarantee they pass notability guidelines. Being registered does not indicate notability. If notable brands participate, that does not establish notability, as notability is not inherited. None of what you've said changes the fact that the 2021 FIA R-GT Cup has not received significant coverage and does not pass the general notability guidelines.
  5225_C (talk • contributions) 22:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

• Agreed. This is an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument which is not a valid rationale at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 02:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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