Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011–12 UEFA Europa League first qualifying round

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to 2011–12 UEFA Europa League first qualifying round. AfD is for discussion of articles that the nominator believes should not exist on the encyclopedia, and such was not the case here. If normal talk page discussion doesn't work, please consider a Request for Comment next time. Discussion of the details of the merger can be worked out on the talk page. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 19:00, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2011–12 UEFA Europa League first qualifying round[edit]

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Unnecessary and no consensus to split into this kind of articles at Talk:2011–12 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round and Talk:2012–13 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round. I suggest we should merge/unsplit content into 2011–12 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round per WP:ATD. But due to avoid edit warring with creator, so I create AfD page to discuss this issue and a stronger consensus. Hhkohh (talk) 05:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 08:33, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article was split following a discussion in 2012 out of concern that the main article was too long. There was no objection, but only two people participated so that's a rather weak consensus. Still, to say there was no consensus is wrong. Smartyllama (talk) 17:42, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the page pre-split is about 318k in WP:SIZE. This would seem a good reason to have these smaller stand-alone articles. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Smartyllama, this is not the place to review those discussions, but why not you support to split other season qualifying articles in Talk:2018–19 UEFA Europa League discussion? And also you can visit Talk:2012–13 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round discussion. That discussion is opposed to spliting. Hhkohh (talk) 02:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You’re the one who nominated it for deletion, not me. If this is not the place to review the discussion, why did you nominate it? I have no opinion as long as the content exists somewhere, socill stay out of this. Smartyllama (talk) 04:29, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Smartyllama, I did not say we should delete those content. Again, I said we should move those content to 2011–12 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round. And that discussion is 5 years ago, so there is nothing to review. Hhkohh (talk) 05:05, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not even sure what we're discussing at this point so I'm just going to back away from here. Smartyllama (talk) 20:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Pages are over 100kB and should be kept split as a result. --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SIZE refers to 100kB of readable prose as a point at which a split should be considered, not 100kB overall size.T v x1 18:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note Notified editors who joined the related section in Talk:2018–19 UEFA Europa League, Talk:2011–12 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round and Talk:2012–13 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round Hhkohh (talk) 14:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Revert split. Splitting these articles was not warranted by the guidelines.T v x1 18:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments It's a lot of information scattered around, I understand the way the article has been split up but if football box collapsible was used it might be okay all on one article. AfD is for deletion, this should of been taken to Merge consensus. Govvy (talk) 15:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back together. Giant Snowman 15:40, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Completely technically, there's no way this should be deleted, so chalk me up for a keep. As to a merge, the way the setup exists is really stupid: 2011–12_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phase_and_play-off_round is not really a usable article. I would propose either merging the coefficient table back to the main page and deleting the qualifying phase and playoff round, keeping the individual articles for the rounds, or merging back to the qualifying phase and playoff round. I'm probably more in favor of the latter, but the status quo isn't really an option. SportingFlyer talk 08:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per WP:FORK Abcmaxx (talk) 18:36, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.