Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1950–51 Wisconsin Badgers men's basketball team

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The result was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) buff bills 7701 20:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1950–51 Wisconsin Badgers men's basketball team[edit]

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Nomination withdrawn by nominator Flat Out let's discuss it 23:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No claim or evidence of notability. There are dozens of these articles and they dont seem to fit NP:NSEASONS. Unless there is some criteria that I'm not aware of, listing every season of a college team does not seem to be encyclopedic. Flat Out let's discuss it 07:12, 30 March 2014 (UTC) Flat Out let's discuss it 05:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Why in the 1950–51 Illinois Fighting Illini men's basketball team page notabale? I do not see you going after that page as not being notable? Because they are both major NCAA basketball programs. I have created many Wisconsin pages because they are a very notable program and their football and basketball programs have had prolonged success. Part of the college basketball project is to create pages for all seasons and I am just doing my part. Thanks Redmen44 (talk) 06:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that's notable either. I have no doubt they are major and successful programs but that doesnt make every season notable unless there is a criteria for this that Im not aware of. Flat Out let's discuss it 07:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This doesn't appear to satisfy WP:NSEASONS. Will need to see evidence that WP:GNG is met.—Bagumba (talk) 06:16, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I disagree as the Wisconsin Badgers DO satisfy WP:NSEASONS as they have elite college football and basketball programs. Redmen44 (talk) 12:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you can explain how the team meets the NSEASONS criteria I will happily withdraw nomination. From my reading, not all college seasons are immediately notable even if a particular season is Flat Out let's discuss it 12:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think I did explain why because WP:NSEASONS states "For programs considered elite in a sport many or all seasons might be notable regardless of the outcome". That fits the Wisconsin Basketball program. The Badgers basketball program won three per-tournament Helms Championships in the early 1900's and were Big Ten Champions 14 times from 1907 through 1947. The program then struggled with only limited success until the 90's when the program was built back into a contender by coach Dick Bennett. After a Final Four run in 1999–2000 as an #8 seed, Bennett surprising left the team after three games into the following season. After the 2000-01 season, Wisconsin hired Bo Ryan who had coached the previous two seasons at UW–Milwaukee and won four Division III Basketball Championships at UW–Platteville. Wisconsin and Bo Ryan have been to the NCAA Tournament 13 straight seasons (I think only Kansas has a longer consecutive streak) under Ryan and currently are in the Final Four. By creating all of Wisconsin's individual basketball seasons, it shows how the program has gone from elite to a struggling program and back to elite again. In all of the Wisconsin Basketball individual seasons I have included the entire game by game schedule which can not be said for many other individual college basketball seasons (for example: the 1950–51 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team and almost all of the Michigan Basketball seasons do not even show their schedule only their rosters). I hope this helps. Thanks Redmen44 (talk) 20:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Redmen44, this does meet NSEASONS. Northern Antarctica (₵) 20:12, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per NSEASONS. Wisconsin can claim multiple national championships, several Final Four appearances, and his been a major college program in the entirety of its history. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:21, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Wisconsin is a far cry from NSEASONS examples of "Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas." Perhaps NSEASONS should be clarified further if the consensus is a national championship or X Final Four appearances, etc.—Bagumba (talk) 05:23, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think NSEASONS should be expanded to include all power conference teams. Northern Antarctica (₵) 13:48, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - not sure how I feel about this one, because it's definitely on the fence. I will say that Wisconsin generally rates as a top 30 program all-time (#28 when ESPN ranked them for their College Basketball Encyclopedia). They aren't elite (top 15 program), but are probably in that next group. Rikster2 (talk) 13:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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