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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎ as there is no merger target that currently exists. @BeanieFan11: if you (or anyone else) end up creating it, just ping me and I'll restore the history under a redirect for you to merge. Star Mississippi 03:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC) ETA: Have subsequently draftified per request. Star Mississippi 03:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1903 Academy of Idaho Bantams football team[edit]

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This abbreviated season fails the WP:NSEASONS. Only 2 games played, with neither of them coming against another college. Let'srun (talk) 00:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, American football, and Idaho. Let'srun (talk) 00:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Create and merge to Academy of Idaho Bantams football, 1902–1909 – strongly oppose outright deletion for this historical season of a Division I program. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What makes it historical, exactly? Please provide evidence if you are going to make such a claim. None of the other seasons within your range currently have articles as it stands, so I'm not sure what would be included besides this season. Let'srun (talk) 01:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What makes it historical, exactly? Please provide evidence if you are going to make such a claim. Idaho State is a Division I program. This was one of their seasons. It's that simple. As for the merger, if no one else would, I would add the additional season data. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What notability guideline gives all Division 1 programs seasons inherent notability? Let'srun (talk) 01:37, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Per the relist comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1926 Delaware State Hornets football team, merge is not a viable close result unless the proposed target article already exists. If someone cares enough about Idaho State football to create the proposed target article in the next few days, and if that target artice has sufficient sourcing to satisfy WP:GNG, then a redirect would be a viable option. Absent that, nothing of particular value will be lost if the current two-sentence micro-stub were to be deleted. Cbl62 (talk) 03:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Cbl62: Do you believe that an article of the Idaho State Bengals' first eight seasons would be notable? The reason I have not yet created such an article is that I prefer to not risk putting "the cart before the horse" / I prefer to know if there's consensus for such an action first. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hard to say without doing the work to see if there's sufficient SIGCOV. Personally, I don't feel so strongly about Idaho State football that I would be willing to put in all the work needed to create the decade article only to then find out that there's not enough SIGCOV. A Newspapers.com search is probably the place to start to see if the coverage is there. Cbl62 (talk) 03:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Taking a quick look, there seems to be some decent coverage just for one of the 1903 games, see [1] - a decade one looks like it'd be notable. I'll try to do one if no one beats me to it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS as things currently stand. This season was not part of intercollegiate football, consisting instead of games against a local high school and an unknown squad (possibly a local military company). Moreover, I do not agree that every Idaho State season is per se notable, as even today, Idaho State is a second-tier team (FBS is the higher tier with the 133 top teams, and Idaho State is part of FCS which consists of 128 lower-level teams). If someone cares enough to add SIGCOV to the article or to create an appropriate (and reasonably well-sourced) redirect/merge target, I could be persuaded to change my vote, but no such redirect/merge target currently exists. Finally, deletion does not result in any great loss as this is a sub-stub sourced only to the regrettably defunct CFBDW. Cbl62 (talk) 17:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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