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One Simple Question about Photos
I looked for an answer first, but could not find one, so I'm asking you: As I'm new to Wikipedia, I've noticed something with pages, especially ones concerning actors or actresses, that their images are missing right at the very beginning. I've personally looked up many on-line photos of them that seem to be free for use, but no one is posting them to the page. Is there a reason why they are not being used? Is there that much red tape in getting permission to use a picture that people just don't bother with it? (I haven't personally added a picture yet because of my uncertainty about the permission needed, AND I have yet to figure out how to add the picture anyway: I'll figure it out one day!) My editing usually consists of adding movie/television credits to the actor or actress if its not yet been added; I check after I've viewed a movie or television series just to see if it's been added to their page. Thank you! SilvrFox2u — Preceding unsigned comment added by SilvrFox2u (talk • contribs) 23:04, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Great question, SilvrFox2u, and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, there probably is a reason why. You'd be very welcome to post a link to an image for an actor here that you think should be used, and we'll take a look at it for you. It would need to have been published under what we call a 'Creative Commons' licence which permits both non-commercial and commercial use. Sadly, very few people actively add that essential licencing to their images, so our default must be that it is copyright unless clearly provable otherwise. I doubt many new actors would want to allow others to use images for commercial use, and newly discovered actors won't have been around long enough for Wikipedia-orientated photographers to take pictures of those men and women. There is certainly a lot of fuss involved in getting other people who own images to release them for use. I've done it a few times, and failed more times than I've succeeded. I do take a camera when I go theatre performances, but I rarely get anything of great quality as I'm usually too far away (like this). Does that help to explain your question? You can read more at Wikipedia:Image use policy. Oh, and do please remember not just to type your username, but to properly sign it using four wiggly keyboard tilde characters (like this: ~~~~)). Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping (as I got SilvrFox2u's username wrong). Nick Moyes (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi SilvrFox2u. There are lots of photo you can find online on freely accesible websites just like there are many photos found in books, magazines or other printed media that you can freely see, but not having to pay to access something doesn't mean that its content are free from copyright protection and it's this last part which matters when it comes to Wikipedia (see Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files and c:Commons:Licensing for a bit more on this). There are some cases where copyrighted content can be uploaded to Wikipedia as non-free content, but use of such content in subject to Wikipedia's non-free content use policy, which is quite restrictive as explained here. When it comes to images of living persons, the long-standing consensus has been not to allow them as long as its reasonable to expect that a freely licensed equivalent image can either be created or found to serve the same encyclopedic purpose as a non-free one. This doesn't mean that such a free equivalent image needs to be identical to the non-free one; it just has to be sufficient to serve the same encyclopedic purpose. It also doesn't means that a free equivalent has to currently exist; it just means that that there's a reasonable expection of a free equivalent image created by someone at sometime. Things can sometimes be a bit more complicated, but that's basically why you won't find images in lots of articles written about living people. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
How do I edit on other Wiki projects?
I'd like to edit on other wiki pages, like the Wikimedia Commons and Wikipédia. Do I need to have an account for each of them? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. I think that most accounts allow you to make regular edits globally under the same username; so, no I believe that you don't need to create a new account for each project. Some people may do so for various reasons (like explained in WP:VALIDALT), but it's not necessary and usually not a problem unless the accounts are used in an inappropriate way. Some edits, however, might require a special type of local permission (i.e. Administrators on English Wikipedia are not automatically administrators on Commons or other language Wikipedias) which you will need to request from the local Wikipedia community. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- (note: meta:Help:Unified login has info on this.) Eman235/talk 04:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
How do I access my AFD stats?
I'd like to start by saying I am much more experienced then most users here, but I have a question. How do I find my AFD stats without scrolling through all of my edits? Is there an XTools page or something? I'm sure it's incredibly obvious, but I'd certainly appreciate the help. Thanks, Squeeps10 03:07, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Squeeps10, no shame in asking for help. You can find your AfD stats here. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly sir. Squeeps10 04:23, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
No email associated with my account
I am the user Textractor, and have been absent for a while. I try logging in, but apparently have forgotten my password. I try to reset the password, but am told that there is no email associated with my account. I am certain that I had associated an email with my account. While I could set up a new account, I don't want to lose the history of my existing account. What can I do about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.10.54 (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Nothing. If the System says there is no email address set in preferences it means not nessesarely that the email address wasn't confirmed yet. You can look for emails from Wikipedia in your inbox, however, the confirmation token provided in the email expires after 7 days. If you can't find such an email (check your spam folder) or its older than 7 days you can only create a new account with a different username. If you find such an email, click on the confirm link and then retry resetting your password. Unbekannter z34-56r-ghf-aq2-d0r (talk) 20:02, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Textractor (talk · contribs), welcome back to editing. I can see that you last edited four and a half years ago. Unfortunately, if there is no current e-mail address, and you cannot remember the password, then your only option is to create a new account, and link it to your own account on your new user page and talk page. You could also edit your old talk page, and create a user page for your old account, linking it to your new account. Dbfirs 20:08, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- So I created this new account, and I can point to the old Textractor (talk · contribs) account, but I can't create the page for Textractor, and as it doesn't exist, can't post anything to it to point to my new account. Can an editor with the right privileges create the Textractor user page? Texpedia (talk) 05:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Done You can delete what I put there, and add your link. Dbfirs 07:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Question about the width and height of the table
Dear everyone,
I'm having trouble with List of gas power plants in Vietnam: The table looks not visually beautiful. I don't know how to change the width and height for each of the columns. For example, the Source column looks very narrow and the Sponsors column looks too big. Can someone help me with this? I'm trying to make as visually as possible and add more information to elevate it to a featured list.
P/s: I use Visual editing, I'm not used to using Source editing but if there is no way to fix in Visual editing, I can try Source editing, no problem.
Thanks in advance. --Tống Minh Quân (talk) 09:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome back Tống Minh Quân, I added the "width" parameter on the table header and it worked! I also found another code that looks more polished. I have used both codes on two separate columns in two separate edits. Feel free to check the history to see what I did. I am not sure how you can do that on visual, but since you are open to source editing, it seems all you need to do is add one of those width codes to all headers and adjust values as per need, in source editing mode. WP:VE suggests the functionality is really limited when it comes to editing tables, but let's wait for a second answer on whether it can be done. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 09:56, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Usedtobecool
Hyperlink
How do I create a hyperlink to a new page. I.E. An artist has a list of albums. I created a page with information on one of the albums and the link I tried to create from the main page to my new addition doesn't work.
Thanks, WonderOfMusic — Preceding unsigned comment added by WonderOfMusic (talk • contribs) 02:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, WonderOfMusic, welcome to the Teahouse. You created an article in your sandbox, User:WonderOfMusic/sandbox. It will need to be moved to article space before a link like San Juan Suite will work. But before it is moved, it needs some polishing. Help:Your first article helps with this—also see Help:Referencing for beginners, since your draft has no references other than just "Michael Gettel, 1988". When your article is finished, you can submit it for review by putting
{{AFC submission/pending}}
in the page. Eman235/talk 02:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)- The article about the musician in question, Michael Gettel, is itself a stub with only one reference. You might consider adding referenced content to that article. David notMD (talk) 10:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
School
I’m in French and I rlly want to get out here how would I be able to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Historychannel754 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I’m sorry, but I don’t understand what you are talking about. Can you clarify for me? I do have possible explanations for your question.
- If you want to edit Wikipedia at school, you usually cannot. An IP address at a school is usually blocked for a long time to prevent juvenile vandalism.
- If you are talking about what is happening with you, then Wikipedia is the wrong place. Per WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK, Wikipedia is not a place to talk about your life. Look for an an alternative outlet instead.
- Please remember to sign your posts. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 05:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- This "If you want to edit Wikipedia at school, you usually cannot. An IP address at a school is usually blocked for a long time to prevent juvenile vandalism" is not correct. This isn't the place to go into IP blocking policy, but the simple answer is that if your school currently has an IP block in place, you can create an account, and you should then be free to edit. Hugsyrup 08:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Seems the OP is already blocked per WP:NOTHERE, so we might never know what they meant to ask (assuming they were not simply trolling, which is more than likely at this point),but to add one more speculation before this thread is shelved, I first read the question as, "I am an editor at the French Wikipedia, what do I need to do to contribute to the English one?" Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 09:08, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I read it as 'I'm in French class and really bored.' David notMD (talk) 10:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Seems the OP is already blocked per WP:NOTHERE, so we might never know what they meant to ask (assuming they were not simply trolling, which is more than likely at this point),but to add one more speculation before this thread is shelved, I first read the question as, "I am an editor at the French Wikipedia, what do I need to do to contribute to the English one?" Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 09:08, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- This "If you want to edit Wikipedia at school, you usually cannot. An IP address at a school is usually blocked for a long time to prevent juvenile vandalism" is not correct. This isn't the place to go into IP blocking policy, but the simple answer is that if your school currently has an IP block in place, you can create an account, and you should then be free to edit. Hugsyrup 08:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
How to unblock the name
顓如, I have always been regarded as a sock account and blocked. At that time, I was qualified to be licensed by Wikipedia developers. My system has an unknown power to control, how can I lift the infinite blockade. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 終端如 (talk • contribs)
- Hi @終端如:. I'm a little confused by your post. First off, the account you posted under above does not appear to be blocked. Do you have a previous account that is blocked? If so, you'll need to tell us what account that is in order for me to be able to look at the history and help you. Although, if you were blocked as a sockpuppet then creating a new account to post under was not a great idea. Usually, the best approach is to post this template on the talk page of the blocked account and ask to be unblocked: {{unblock | reason=your reason here ~~~~}}. The only reason you would be unable to do so is if your talk page access has been revoked, in which case I believe you can submit a request through the WP:UTRS. Hugsyrup 13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This is a sock puppet of a global locked user (See also User:終端如/sandbox/鍾顓如 and Special:CentralAuth/顓如)--94rain Talk 13:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- It also seems like there is a language barrier. 331dot (talk) 13:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Just want to clarify that users who have had there user talk page access revoked can submit an unblock request through WP:UTRS, not WP:OTRS. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks - my mistake! Hugsyrup 13:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Help with vandalized article
I ask for help from people, who uses huggle or similar tools.
The article Aris Thessaloniki F.C. experienced some editions today. The last eleven are obvious vandalism. The twelfth edit (done by someone else) had Thessaloniki named "Solun". Could someone roll back this 11 (maybe 12) edits please? I would have to do them one by one. Gehenna1510 (talk) 21:13, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, Gehenna1510. I've undone the edits for you, using Twinkle, which anyone (including you!) can use. Eman235/talk 21:23, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- And you don't even need Twinkle. You can just select the most recent unvandalised version from the edit history, and click "restore this version". Maproom (talk) 21:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)You don't need any tool to revert multiple vandalism. Just click on "History", select the before and after versions, compare selected versions, then click "Undo". You don't even need an account to do this. ... later note ... Maproom's method above is even simpler! Dbfirs 21:32, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Eman235, Maproom and Dbfirs Thanks for all your input and fast reaction. I used to use "Undo", but read it is limited to three uses against the same editor, so I assumed it would be a problem here. Although it is possible I read it in the box of a protected article and this rule only applied to protected articles.
- Anyway, you explained to me different ways how I can go back more than one step. Thanks. Gehenna1510 (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- It's three reversions in the same article that might get you into trouble. Undoing multiple edits counts as one reversion. The method you use doesn't matter. See WP:3RR. Dbfirs 22:11, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- I was mistaken in the point that I assumed every undo would count as one revert. So I thought to undo the 11 edits in the article would count as 11 reverts, not just one. Gehenna1510 (talk) 22:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Gehenna1510 and Dbfirs: Please also note that reverting obvious vandalism does not count against 3RR (see WP:3RRNO #4). (Emphasis on obvious: if it is not something you would warn the user about or bring them to WP:AIV, then it is not obvious vandalism.) TigraanClick here to contact me 14:21, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- It's three reversions in the same article that might get you into trouble. Undoing multiple edits counts as one reversion. The method you use doesn't matter. See WP:3RR. Dbfirs 22:11, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)You don't need any tool to revert multiple vandalism. Just click on "History", select the before and after versions, compare selected versions, then click "Undo". You don't even need an account to do this. ... later note ... Maproom's method above is even simpler! Dbfirs 21:32, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
submission
hi,
i submitted an article on the musician danny briottet back in february. i has not been published and i have recieved no feedback. can anyone kindly tell me what i should do? thanks, gene java — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene.java (talk • contribs) 13:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Gene.java: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It does not appear that you actually submitted the draft for review; you need to click the blue button at the top of your draft that states "Submit your draft for review!" in order to actually submit it. When you do, please understand that drafts are reviewed by volunteers in no particular order, so you will need to be patient as there are thousands of drafts awaiting review. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- But before you submit the draft for review, you need to sort out your references; see Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Needs correct method of referencing, and most of your references do not meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources. Examples: interviews with the subject, the subjects Facebook, the subjects website. David notMD (talk) 15:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
About Speedy Deletion
Hope you are doing fine. Can you please help me understand why my Artical about Zeeyarah went into speedy deletion and how to fix this? The page is deleted under G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Can you help me understand what did i write wrong and if you could so kindly guide me. i am trying to post my artical since many days but i am unable to do so because of improper information. can you please just guide me where did i do mistakes so i will be able to correct them.I am new to wikipedia. i dont know much about writing artical on wikipedia if you will help me i will be very thankful tou you. Your contribution will be much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammed Gaus Shaikh (talk • contribs)
- Hi @Mohammed Gaus Shaikh:. Your article was speedily deleted as being 'unambiguous promotion'. As it happens, I had already looked at it and had it on my watchlist, and my personal view is that it should not have been speedily deleted under this criteria because the article, while flawed, was not "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to conform with Wikipedia:NOTFORPROMOTION" which is what the CSD guidelines requires. Your first option would be to approach the admin who deleted it, which I see you have already done, so I suggest you wait for a response from them. If none is forthcoming or they don't help, you can take it to WP:DRV to appeal.
- That said - the reason I watchlisted your page is that I felt it probably didn't meet the requirements for WP:GNG and especially WP:NCORP and I was going to wait a day or two for you to improve it, and then consider taking it to a deletion discussion. So if you do get the page undeleted, you will need to work hard to make sure it meets these guidelines to avoid it being re-deleted after a discussion. Finally, if you work for the company or have any financial connection with them, you must read the WP:PAID guideline and declare this. Hugsyrup 13:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hug, just for completeness, the account name is the same as that of the founder of the company... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
LINGA BALIJA;-From where linga balijas or linga banajigas or balingyas came from ?
This article is an excerpt from
Castes and Tribes of Southern India
By Edgar Thurston, C.I.E.,
Superintendent, Madras Government Museum; Correspondant
Étranger, Société d’Anthropologie de Paris; Socio
Corrispondante, Societa,Romana di Anthropologia.
Assisted by K. Rangachari, M.A.,
of the Madras Government Museum.
Government Press, Madras
1909. --Manoj4396 (talk) 15:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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Linga Balija--Manoj4396 (talk) 15:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC) The Linga Balijas (traders) are summed up, in the Madras Census Report, 1901, as a Lingāyat sub-caste of Balija. In a note on Lingāyats, Mr. R. C. C. Carr records that the Linga Banjigs or Banajigas are essentially traders, though many are now cultivators, and that Telugu Lingāyats often call themselves Linga Balijas. The following legendary account of the origin of the “Linga Bhojunnalawaru” is given in the Baramahal Records. “Para Brahma or the great god Brahma created the god Pralayakala Rudra or the terrific at the day of destruction, a character of the god Siva, and he created the Chatur Acharyulu or four sages named Panditaraju, Yekcoramalu, Murralaradulu, and Somaluradulu, and taught them mantras or prayers, and made them his deputies. On a time, the Asuras and Devatas, or the giants and the gods, made war on each other, and the god Pralayakala Rudra produced from his nose a being whom he named Muchari Rudra, and he had five sons, with whom he went to the assistance of the devatas or gods, and enabled them to defeat the giants, and for his service the gods conferred upon him and his sons the following honorary distinctions:— • A flag with the figure of an alligator (crocodile) portrayed on it. • A flag with the figure of a fish portrayed on it. • A flag with the figure of a bullock. • A flag with the figure of an eagle. • A flag with the figure of a bell. • A bell. • A modee ganta, or iron for marking cattle. • The use of burning lamps and flambeaus in their public processions during the day. • The use of tents. “On a time, when the god Pralayakala Rudra and Mochari Rudra and his five sons, with other celestial attendants, were assembled on the Kailāsa parvata or mountain of Paradise, the god directed the latter to descend into the Bhuloka or earthly world, and increase and multiply these species. They humbly prayed to know how they were again to reach the divine presence. He answered ‘I shall manifest myself in the Bhuloka under the form of the Lingam or Priapus; do you worship me under that form, and you will again be permitted to approach me.’ They accordingly descended into the earthly regions, and from them the present castes of Baljawaras deduce their origin.” In a note on the Linga Balijas of the North Arcot district, Mr. H. A. Stuart writes that “Linga Balija appears rather to be the name of the followers of a religious faith than of a distinct caste, for the Linga Balijas state that their caste contains eleven sub-divisions, each with a separate occupation, viz., Jangam (priests), Reddi (cultivators), Gāndla (oil-mongers), and the like. Almost all the Linga Balijas of North Arcot are traders, who speak Canarese and are immigrants from Mysore, in which their gurus (religious preceptors) live, and whither they still refer their caste disputes. At one time they enjoyed much importance in this district, particularly in its large trading towns. Headmen among them, styled Chettis, were by the Arcot Nawābs assigned districts, in which they possessed both magisterial and civil authority, and levied taxes from other merchants for their own personal use. They carried on very extensive trade with Mysore and the Ceded districts, and are said to have had enormous warehouses, which they enclosed and fortified. Breaches of the peace are also described as not infrequent, resulting from the interference of one Linga Balija Chetti with matters relating to the district of another. Their authority has long since disappeared, and is only a matter of tradition. Every Linga Balija wears a Siva lingam, usually encased in a silver casket (or gold casket set with precious stones), and suspended from the neck, but the very poor place theirs in a cloth, and sometimes tie it to their arm. It is a strict rule that one should be tied to a child’s neck on the tenth day of its birth, otherwise it is not entitled to be classed as a Linga Balija. The Siva lingam worn by these people differs from the Būta or Prēta lingams used by Pandārams, Kaikōlans, or others who profess the Lingāyat faith. They acknowledge two purānams, called respectively the Siva and Basava purānams, and differ in very many respects from other Hindus. They bury and do not burn their dead, and do not recognise the five kinds of pollution resulting from a birth, death, spittle, etc., and they do not therefore bathe in order to remove such pollution. Widow remarriage is allowed even where the widow has children, but these are handed over to the relatives of her first husband. To widow remarriages no women who are not widows are admitted, and, similarly, when a maiden is married, all widows are excluded. Unlike most Hindus, Linga Balijas shave off the whole of the hair of their heads, without leaving the usual lock at the back. They deny metempsychosis, and believe that after death the soul is united with the divine spirit. They are particular in some of their customs, disallowing liquor and flesh-eating, and invariably eating privately, where none can see them. They decline even to eat in the house of a Brāhman.” A Linga Banajiga (Canarese trader), whom I interviewed at Sandūr, was smeared with white marks on the forehead, upper extremities, chest, and abdomen in imitation of a Hubli priest. Some orthodox Lingāyat traders remove their lingam during the transaction of the day’s work, on the ground, as given to me, that it is necessary to tell little falsehoods in the course of business. |
- Could you please clarify what exactly is your question? Hugsyrup 15:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I am guessing the question is about the historical/anthropological spatial/cultural origin of the peoples referred to as "Linga Balijas" in the excerpt given, from the source mentioned. It's one for the brilliant researchers at the reference desk, IMO. The best short of that would be the article Balija, assuming it's at all relevant. Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 16:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Access to Wikipedia
Still no info about: 1) Whether an individual can open a Wikipedia account, and who composes it. 2) Whether it is free, or has some cost. Need help!
- It is free to open a Wikipedia account. Each account must be individual, group accounts are not allowed. You can create an account at WP:ACCOUNT. RudolfRed (talk) 18:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I thought you were asking about creating an account. Based on a similar question above, you may be asking about creating an article. If so, read WP:YFA for how to do that. The usual advice is to start by improving the article in other ways first, since creating a new article is not an easy task for new users. RudolfRed (talk) 18:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
How do I get a Wiki Page Created and approved for my son, who is an actor.
My son is actor (10 years old) who has had a movie on Netflix, been on the Disney channel, and done a number of other short films. He is soon to be in a major film by a well known director. How does a Wiki page get created for him?
- @Ratlasratlas: This is going to be an issue, unfortunately; while I can see that your son may have a claim to notability soon, you seem to think that Wikipedia is much like Facebook or LinkedIn. This is not the case - while Facebook and LinkedIn exist primarily to (in this type of case) showcase the positives from a primary-source perspective, Wikipedia is not like that". Wikipedia relies on secondary reliable sources, which means: has your son been featured in depth in news articles? Could many aspects of his biography be found online in non-primary sources? (Unfortunately, Facebook and the like don't count here.)
- Another thing to be concerned about is your unavoidable conflict of interest, which in most circumstances would lead you to write in a favorable fashion about him. I can't blame you, I would do the same thing! Unfortunately, Wikipedia has a policy that trips up a lot of people in your situation: Wikipedia must be in a neutral point of view. This sounds fine at first glance, but can be quite annoying in practice. In addition to writing all the positives about him, you must also keep it balanced - in most cases, not all of an article is glowing praise. Mind, your son is 10, so he won't have had as much time to get into scandals, but it still has to be encyclopedic.
- There's also the issue that Wikipedia bases its content upon what the media says, not what the subject says - it sounds harsh, but for example, say the BBC reported that your son went to XYZ school, while you know that he went to ABC School. Wikipedia will side with the BBC - in that case, Wikipedia says your son went to XYZ School.
- And finally, if and when your son does obtain a legitimate claim to notability, someone else will surely create an article about him! After all, Paul McCartney didn't write his own article. With regards, -A lad insane (Channel 2) 19:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Ratlasratlas: (edit conflict) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The best thing to do is nothing, and allow independent editors to take note of your son in independent reliable sources and write about him. This is an encyclopedia that has articles, not just "Wiki Pages", about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. In this case, your son would need to meet the criteria written at WP:NACTOR. It sounds to me as if he could possibly, but as you have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest you ideally should not be the one to write an article about your son.
- Also understand that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable, especially for minors. Almost any information, good or bad, can go into an article about a person as long as it appears in an independent reliable source and is not defamatory or very private information(like phone number or address). The subject (or their representative) has no more rights to the article than any other editor, would not own it, and could not exclusively control its content. They could not prevent others from editing it or lock it to the text they might prefer. If you just want to tell the world about your son, you should use social media or your own website. You can request that others write about him at Requested Articles, but there is a long backlog there and writing about him would not be done quickly. 331dot (talk) 19:07, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Ratlasratlas: Echoing 331dot's comments, and also adding that if a new film is coming out with your son in it, it may be WP:TOOSOON, and perhaps an experienced editor who is also a fan will write something down the road. Another option although less likely is that you can submit a request for an article and see if you can interest an experienced editor in creating an article. Please see Wikipedia:Requested articles. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
~~~~
. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Near duplicate articles
While working for Typo Team moss, I found that two articles-- Satgarah Okara and Satghara-- seem to be almost duplicates. I don't know exactly how to handle this. Can someone explain? Thanks. Jkgree (talk) 02:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Jkgree. Satgarah Okara is the more recently created of the two. My guess is that the creator of that article most likely didn't know how WP:MOVE the article and wanted to change the name of the other article. I've got no idea what the WP:COMMONNAME of the town is, but the content of the "Okara" version the "non-Okara" seem for the most part to be the same which means the "Okara version" might be eligible for speedy deletion per WP:A10. The title of the other article could be then change as needed. The editor who created the "Okara version" appears to be only main contributor to the article, and it looks like they basically copied and pasted content from the other article, which is technically a WP:COPYVIO per WP:ATTREQ; so, I don't think a WP:HISTMERGE is necessary. A good place to ask about this might be at WP:AN since deleting of one of the articles or a HISTMERGE is going to need to be done by an administrator. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! I started to open a discussion on the Administrators' noticeboard, as you suggested, but then I saw a note:
It is rarely appropriate for inexperienced users to open new threads here – for the "Incidents" noticeboard, click here.
- Is this that rare occasion, or is there some other way I should try to follow up on this? Jkgree (talk) 19:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! I started to open a discussion on the Administrators' noticeboard, as you suggested, but then I saw a note:
Customisation of Username
Hello,
I've seen many users on Wikipedia with really cool fonts and colours on their name. How can I do the same with my name?? --Caleb KG (talk) 20:50, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Go to Special:Preferences to make your signature (you can customize your signature) in a different color, font, etc. Take a look at my signature, for an example. LPS and MLP Fan (LittlestPetShop) (MyLittlePony) 22:05, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- Also note that you will need to know a bit about HTML and CSS in order to change the fonts, color, etc. --PuzzledvegetableIs it teatime already? 20:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
change of photo
How can I change (renew) a photo of men on a page abut me? Dr. Per Mollerup — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Per Mollerup (talk • contribs) 19:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hello Dr. Per Mollerup, and welcome to the Teahouse. If I understand your question correctly, take a selfie or have someone take a picture of you. The photographer can then upload it here, and it can then be used at Per Mollerup (probably). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Heading 1
According to WP:MOS, section headings are always to be written in Heading Level-2, never in Level-1. Then why is there a Level 1? What is its use? --Caleb KG (talk) 20:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Caleb KG. H1 isn't used in articles, but it is sometimes used on administrative pages like Talk:Main Page—both § Main Page error reports and § General discussion use H1, so that when a user starts a new section (using H2), it will show up as a subsection of one of those H1s. Eman235/talk 20:55, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. —Caleb KG (talk) 20:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
When to remove "underlinked" flag
Hello! Sometimes I run across stubs that are flagged as needing more links to other articles in order to integrate them into the encyclopedia. Given that they are stubs and therefore have very little content that could be linked, should they have the flag removed since it seems more like a lack of content issue rather than a lack of links issue? If not, how do you integrate links in an article with such little content? Thank you!
Some examples of pages like this (as of August 5, 2019):
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Ivano-Frankivsk_Oblast_Championship
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acad%C3%A9mie_Royale_de_Philat%C3%A9lie
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accommodative_infacility
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamgir_Karim
--Nostriker (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Nostriker, tagging for issues is done to bring attention of other editors to the article. When it's gotten your attention and you don't see that the tag applies, you can remove it, providing your rationale in the summary, provided you first check the talk page to see if the original tagger has left their rationale (in which case, you also consider that rationale and judge if that applies to the article). In this particular case, the first article is so poor, I'm not sure how it's survived here (probably something to do with a notion of inherent notability). I don't see anything there that could be wikilinked. So, you can just remove that tag. Just as you say, underlinking is the least of its worries. In the second one, I can see some wikilinking can be done. Belgian and Brussels need to be linked. Then, if the people and organisations (academy, society) have pages, link them too; if not the work is done. Then you can go ahead and remove the tag. Accordingly, for the other articles you come across. Good luck! Usedtobecool ✉️ ✨ 19:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! -Nostriker (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Anje Uno
page i can submit but Wikipedia said your notability error — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnjeUno2020 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- You are trying to create an article about yourself, which is strongly discouraged. And the draft Draft:Anje Uno provides no evidence that its subject is notable. Maproom (talk) 21:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, AnjeUno2020, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipediais an encyclopaedia, not a directory or social media. It contains articles which are (or should be) wholly based on what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject. If at some point Wikipedia has an article about you, it will not be your article, you will have no control over the contents, you will be strongly discouraged from editing it directly, and it should be almost entirely based on what people who have no connection with you have published about you. If there is little or no such independent material about you published in reliable places, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about you at present: the Wikipedia jargon for this is whether or not you are notable. If you are notable, then an article about you is possible, but you should not write it. If you are not, then no article will be accepted, however it is written. --ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
How can i create a page for movies.?
I want to make a new page for tamil movie. but that page doesn't accept by Wikipedia. how can i create that movie page.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1994V (talk • contribs) 05:42, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- What is the title of the movie?--Shantavira|feed me 05:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- 1994V Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit history does not seem to indicate any edits attempting to create an article(not just "page") about a film; you did attempt to add one to a list of films, but I'm not sure why it was removed. If you want to create a new article about a film, the film must meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable film, written at WP:NFILM. You may also want to edit existing articles on films first, to get an idea of what is being looked for in articles on films. Using the new user tutorial and reading Your First Article are also good ideas. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. You must be referring to the Pradeep K Vijayan draft you created recently. Just so your effort is not wasted, I suggest that you find more reliable sources. For example, the subject's Twitter account is not acceptable. If you need more info about references, you can check WP:RSSELF and WP:RELIABLE. Good luck! Darwin Naz (talk) 01:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- 1994V Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edit history does not seem to indicate any edits attempting to create an article(not just "page") about a film; you did attempt to add one to a list of films, but I'm not sure why it was removed. If you want to create a new article about a film, the film must meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable film, written at WP:NFILM. You may also want to edit existing articles on films first, to get an idea of what is being looked for in articles on films. Using the new user tutorial and reading Your First Article are also good ideas. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
I probably sound really stupid but...
I just joined and I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to make an article. I probably sound so stupid lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flintmcneal (talk • contribs) 10:35, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse Flintmcneal Creating a new article is the most difficult task on Wikipedia, so with only one days experience I would suggest you try something a little easier first! But if you are determined you can start here. Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'd repeat my advice
abovehere: don't start by trying to write a new article. Learn Wikipedia by making smaller changes to existing articles (see Help:Getting started) and reading discussion pages to see how things are done here. Anyone can write an article, but it does take a bit of experience to do it successfully. › Mortee talk 11:05, 3 August 2019 (UTC) Archived.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)- Hi Flintmcneal! Let me just add by saying that Mortee is correct. Editing and contributing to existing articles will help you become familiar with what is acceptable in terms of content and format, among others. After this - if you are confident about writing your article - you can try using the Article wizard to start your first draft. Darwin Naz (talk) 01:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
help
Hi, Are there people you can hire to help get your article on Wikipedia correctly? Thank you, Jeanette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanetteyoffe (talk • contribs)
- @Jeanetteyoffe: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would first note that any article about you would not be "your article". It would be an article about you. You or your representative would not have any more rights to it than any other editor.
- Regarding hiring someone, such people exist, but they are not authorized by Wikipedia, and you would be on your own in attempting to locate such a person. However, you should be aware that anyone you hire would need to comply with the paid editing policy and declare that you hired them. They also could not, despite what they would say, guarantee any particular result for you(such as writing an article that will not be deleted), so you should not hand over any money up front. Also understand that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. Any information, good or bad, about you can be in such an article as long as it appears in an independent reliable source. You cannot lock it to what you want it to say, or prevent others from editing it.
- I would also note that that as this is an encyclopedia, you would need to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person, written at WP:BIO, as shown with independent reliable sources, to merit an article here. Paying someone to write one does not help if you do not meet the notability criteria. 331dot (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Jeanetteyoffe. It appears from User:Jeanetteyoffe/sandbox/Understanding the Transition from Foster Care to Adoption: From a Personal and Professional Perspective by Jeanette Yoffe, M.A., M.F.T. that you might not be necessarily trying to create an article about yourself, but rather a topic you've been researching and perhaps is your speciality. If that's the case, then it addition to what 331dot has suggested above, I also recommend that you take a look at Wikipedia:Expert editors, Wikipedia:No original research and item 1 of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. Wikipedia is not really a place where researchers can get their work (e.g. thesis or research papers) freely published; in others words, it's not an academic or professional journal. A Wikipedia article can sometimes be written about someone's research, but only after that research has received significant coverage in reliable sources (typically secondary and independent in nature), and even then article content is only supposed to really reflet what these sources are saying (both good and bad) and what can be verified through citations to these sources.I'm not trying to discourage you from editing; Wikipedia needs knowlegable editors to help build it as an encyclopedia; however, Wikipedia might not be the best place to try and write about yourself or your endeavors and you might find some of the alternatives listed in Wikipedia:Alternative outlets as better suited for that kind of thing. You might also find per Help:Wikipedia editing for research scientists that there might be other ways where you can make use of your knowledge to help Wikipedia; there are, after all, almost six million articles and pretty much most of them can be improved in one way or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:34, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
User name edit
I am on an iPad and cannot figure out how to edit my user name. Can somebody please help me?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmmangement (talk • contribs) 02:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, User:Bmmangement. Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi Bmmangement. You cannot edit your username, but you can request that it be changed. Please look at Wikipedia:Username Policy for the type of usernames generally considered OK to choose and Wikipedia:Changing username for information on how to go about getting your username changed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
I need to immediately delete the account I created. I cannot figure out how to delete it. My username is wrong and everything about it is wrong and I should’ve researched more before trying to create it. How can I delete everything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmmangement (talk • contribs) 02:59, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
- You cannot delete your account. You can have it renamed (see WP:RENAME) or you can abandon the account and create a new one. Either way, you will still have a conflict of interest wrt to the singer you were writing about. Please read and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. Meters (talk) 03:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Drafts
I created a draft for Centerton Fire Company and published it, I am now trying to figure out how to attach it to the Centerton, NJ site as a link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jem2340 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- It is still a draft Draft:Centerton Fire Company. If accepted as an article, you would put the title in double brackets Centerton Fire Company in the article and it would show up as a blue-color link. Be aware that you have not yet submitted your draft for consideration as an article. David notMD (talk) 04:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Hi Jem2340. You did create Draft:Centerton Fire Company, but it's not quite yet what Wikipedia would consider to be an WP:ARTICLE. The "Publish changes" button can be a bit misleading in that it really means "Save change" (in fact that's what the name of the button used to be up until a few years ago); so, although you "saved" your changes, the page is still considered to be a draft. There are two ways for a draft to become an article.The first and often recommended one is to submit the draft to Wikipedia:Articles for creation (AFC) for a review. The editors who review drafts tend to be quite experienced and well versed in relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines and they will look over your draft and assess it. If they feel the subject of the article meets Wikipedia:Notability, they will approve the draft and move it to the article mainspace; if they feel it's not ready, they will decline the draft, explain why and often provide suggestions on things that need to be fixed before the draft is resubmitted for another review. There's no limit on the number of times a draft may be submitted for review as long as it continues to be improved and the same declined version doesn't just keep being submitted over and over again. The AfC process can take a bit of time and there are no 100% guarantees, but articles created this way do seem to have a better chance of avoiding deletion at a later date since AfC reviewer seldom approve drafts which don't meet some Wikipedia notability guideline. This method tends to be recommended for new editors or editor who don't have an established track record or creating problem free articles.The other way for a draft to become an article is for the creator or someone else to simply WP:MOVE it to the article namespace; this can sometimes be a bit tricky, but it can be done. The advantage of this method is that there's no long review process, but that is also it's primary disadvantage. Most editors will leave an editor alone while they work on a draft (unless there's a really serious policy or guideline violation which needs addressing asap or there's some formatting/layout error which needs to be fixed); however, once that draft has been moved to the article mainspace, it's pretty much fair game for anyone to edit at anytime, including to nominate the "article" for WP:DELETION if they feel it's not something suitable for Wikipedia. In sometimes, this deletion can even come fairly quickly not too soon after the article has been created if the problems are serious enough.That is why this method tends to be only recommended for editors who are quite experienced in article creatoin and have established a track record of creating high quality articles. In the end, which method you choose is up to you, but once in the article namespace you won't have any real control over what happens to your work. So, before you decide what to do, you might want to take a look at Help:Your first article and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) to see how things look formatting and notability wise; you then might want to ask for more specific feedback at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fire Service since that's where you're likely to find editors with experience in writing this type of article. Once you've got a better idea as to how your draft stacks up to relevant policies and guidelines, then you'll probably be able to figure out which method will work best for you.Finally, links to draft pages are not allowed to be added to Wikipedia articles; so you should try to add any links until after the draft has been upgraded to article status. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Use of brackets
Hi people, I am Vishal. I want to ask you that What is coding how do you use {}[] these brackets and what is the purpose?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vishal007vvv (talk • contribs) 04:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Vishal007vvv. You can find out some more about these at Help:Wikitext, but basically curly brackets seem to be mainly used for templates, whereas square brackets are used for internal and external links. There are other uses perhaps, but "link" vs. "template" appear to be the main difference. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
How to remove 'Redirect'?
The Adani Enterprises Limited page is getting redirected to the Adani Group. They are two separate entities and need sperate Wikipedia pages. Can anyone help me? Similar2me (talk) 07:53, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Similar2me, I have no opinion on "need" (WP:NCORP etc), but click your first link, then click the small bluelink in "Redirected from Adani Enterprises Limited" just under the title, then edit. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Adani Enterprises Limited is a division of the Adani Group, and there's a section about it there. It doesn't need a separate article. But if there is to be a separate article, please be aware that it will be sourced largely to published news articles about it, such as this.[1] Maproom (talk) 08:59, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- ^ "Adani Enterprises MD arrested for custom duty evasion". The Times of India. 27 February 2010.
Indya - Article
Dear Team,
Some time ago, I wrote an article for a friend, Natalie West, who fronts her own rock band, Indya. I am just enquiring to see how long it usua;;y takes for an article to get listed on the website as I did approach you some time ago and the first one I wrote seemed to go walkies. Please would you advise as to the possible time frame we have to wait for an article to be approved?
Thank you for you help!
Best wishes,
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indya1 (talk • contribs)
- Hi @Indya1: First off, by writing an article about a friend, you have a WP:COI so you should be careful to read that policy and make sure you comply with it. It doesn't mean you can't write the article, but you will receive additional scrutiny, and should be extremely careful to be balanced and unbiased, and ensure everything is thoroughly sourced. I assume the article you are referring to is this one, at your userpage, User:Indya1? If so, I'm afraid that is not in the system for approval as it is simply your own personal page. To get an article approved, you should go to WP:AFC and carefully follow the instructions there. From what I can see of your article currently, however, there is a total lack of sources and so it is very unlikely that the subject will be considered notable enough to be accepted. If you are going to write the article, first you need to find several high quality articles in reliable, independent publications that cover Indya in significant detail (not just passing mentions). If you cannot find those, then probably Indya isn't ready for a Wikipedia article just yet. Hugsyrup 11:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Your question here had the unintended consequence of bringing your User page content to attention of reviewers - AND now is it up for Speedy Deletion. Save your content, either to your Sandbox or off-line, and start over. However, as Hugsyrup noted, without references that are considered reliable sources, this content will not be accepted as an article if submitted through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process. See WP:BAND for music-notability criteria. David notMD (talk) 11:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
André Evard
Hi, dear people, i just put this article online, which is a translation of the german article. When i view the article i see there This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Gyanda (talk | contribs) at 12:20, 6 August 2019 (i did my best - this article is a translation of the german article). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version. (diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff) - where does this come from and what did i wrong and how do i get this away? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- You see that sort of heading if you click on a link (such as in the article history) to a specific version's date and time. You won't see that heading if you merely click on a link to the article title, or the "Read" or "Article" tab at the top of the page.
- If it's a translation from the German version you need to provide attribution; see WP:TFOLWP. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- I guess, i did, David, have a look at the talk-page, hope i did it right. And thanks for the explanation, i was so puzzled. --Gyanda (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Gyanda, if you see "This is the current revision of this page, as edited by Gyanda (talk | contribs) at 12:32, 6 August 2019. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this version", you're likely viewing https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andr%C3%A9_Evard&oldid=909602966 in stead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Evard You can make the message go away by clicking on the Article or the Read tab at the top (left) of the page. Vexations (talk) 12:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation, i was so puzzled. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 12:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
How to Write Musician Article
How to Write Musician Article and What kind Of Link or Cite web can be helpful— Preceding unsigned comment added by The Return of William Shakespeare (talk • contribs)
- @The Return of William Shakespeare: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would caution you that successfully writing a new article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice to be able to do so. New users who dive right in to creating articles often end up disappointed and with hurt feelings as their work that they spent hours on is mercilessly edited and even deleted by other editors. I don't want to see that happen to you, so I would suggest that you first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, so you can get a feel for the editing process and learn how Wikipedia works before you start creating articles. Users that do this are usually much more successful at creating new articles than if they did so without understanding Wikipedia guidelines and without having edited anything.
- However, if you still want to attempt to write an article, you should read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial first. Since you state you want to write about a musician, you should also review the special definition we have for a notable musician, written at WP:BAND. For a musician to merit an article on Wikipedia, they must meet at least one of the criteria written there, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources(sources not associated with the musician in any way,and that are not press releases, basic announcements, or brief mentions). Then, you can use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review. This way, you get feedback on the draft before it is formally a part of the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 13:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Saving material for unfinished entries
I am writing entries for a couple of British writers, bur will not have time to complete them before I shut down this computer. Is there a way of saving them for later work, or should I publish them as stubs? Is it OK to do more work on another computer later?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Roger Allen (talk • contribs)
- @Roger Allen: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume you have not yet saved anything, since your edit history does not indicate any edits to a draft or new article. If you are creating the articles as drafts(if "Draft:" is in the title), you can just click "Publish changes", which is functionally equivalent to "save changes"(the wording was changed for legal reasons). If you are creating the articles in the main encyclopedia space(without "Draft:" in the title). you should copy the content to your personal sandbox, which there should be a link to in the top right corner of the screen( or you can go there directly: User:Roger Allen/sandbox) and then click "publish changes". 331dot (talk) 14:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Roger Allen (talk) 14:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)