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01 April 2020

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I was asked to make a routine follow up on this case since Middayexpress has a well known history of evading blocks, and in a look through of the more recent activities given I find probable cause to list the above two accounts the following grounds:

  • Both accounts were established within three months of each other and hit the ground running, which is unusual since newcomers typically need a few weeks at a minimum to get adjusted enough to the site to start editing in a meaningful capacity. This suggests neither account was new to the site, and multiple accounts created around the same time is a known trait of Middayexpress.
  • Both have a near obsession with citing statistics and tidbits repeatedly in their defense. Soupforone can be seen doing that several times above when he made his original defense case, while MustoafaO and Aqooni can be seen doing so at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dilla Massacre (2nd nomination) to keep a Somali-related article on site, which leads directly into the send point:
  • Both accounts edit near exclusively in Somalia/Somaliland fields. A check of both accounts yields a vast number of edits that are concerned with the Horn of Africa/Somalia/Somaliland region, including multiple edit summaries that show policing of sources and replacement of sources with more preferable ones, a known trait of Middayexpress' attempt to exercise OWN authortiy on the articles. Both accounts are also well versed on the people and tribes and other matters of the region, suggesting a long term familiarity with the region, a known trait of Middayexpress.
  • A particularly interesting note is the original edit for MustafaO is on a the Haplogroup T-M184, an oft overlooked part of Middayexpresses' editing interest and a Haplogroup that so happens to be part of the Horn of Africa region, further suggesting a sock account.
  • Multiple complaints and/or edits to Admin related boards, such as [1] [2] [3] along with aggressive (threatening?) edits promising addition trouble for those who intervene [4]
  • Consistent editing patterns with established socks and other suspect accounts noted at User:TomStar81/Horn of Africa disruption,
  • Complaints by others to the ANI boards and other dispute resolution processes, including [5], [6], [7], [8]
  • One of the earliest edit summaries for MustafaO reads "(change visibility) 17:46, 18 February 2017 diff hist -6‎ Gadabuursi ‎ Unauthorised change reversed by Anonymous. Amended: 00:46 London time. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit " That is important to me because the above reports show that Middayexpress is or was in or near London because several of the isp edits he has made over the years backtrack to that region (see May 2019 report above).
  • Outreach to GeelJire and Linkjan2014 on the talk page of Aqooni. GeelJire is a confirmed and blocked Middayexpress sock.
  • Outreach by Banco de Sarapio to MustafaO. Banco de Sarapio is blocked as a sock, but there is no link to a sock report. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @Kzl55: I consolidated my findings here for you to review. If I have missed anything do feel free to add. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, I should note that User:Linkjan2014 is named but not accused in this report, there is circumstantial evidence that he is a sock but I elected not to dig too far into his editing history. He is listed here as a satellite account only the context that he has had interaction with the accused parties, and it will be a checkuser decision as to whether or not the account is inlcuded as an investigation target. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @David Biddulph: You opened an ANI thread about this earlier this year ([9]), is there anything else you think needs to be added here? Don't be shy about adding, the slightest details could be important to us - all of us - since this is a big deal. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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13 April 2020

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Suspected sockpuppets

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It appears recently blocked sockmaster MustafaO is using a sock account to circumvent their block. They attempted to register a new sock account after filing an unblock request and were caught [10], as a result they are attempting to use sleeper account ChiefWanag.

Dormant account ChiefWanag has been inactive since August 2017, and became active on 3 April; this is the same day MustafaO's request for unblocking was denied [11].

Sockmaster MustafaO's has a long history of edits within the Horn of Africa project, specifically articles related to Gadabursi/Dir Somali clan. Horn DNA articles, particularly in relation to Haplogroup T-M184 is their other area of interest. ChiefWanag exhibits identical interest in Horn/Gadabursi/Dir related articles as well as Horn DNA articles [12].

Behavioural evidence:

  • Cushitic peoples appears on both accounts' top edited pages list [13], [14]. Additionally, ChiefWanag and MustafaO are 1st and 3rd on the article's top editors list [15].
  • This also applies to behaviour on Gadabursi, MustafaO's top edited article, and ChiefWanag's 3rd most edited article [16], [17]. Both editors also appear on the article's top editors list [18].
  • Out-with Cushitic peoples which ranks top 3 edited article for both accounts, the vast majority of most edited articles on both accounts relate to either Gadabursi clan figures or Gadabursi clan territory: [19], [20]. This is remarkable given that Gadabursi is a small Somali clan, and these articles would be considered niche.
  • Confirmed MustafaO sock Ahmed Lafaciise's first edit was on the Oromo language article [23], this is of note as ChiefWanag edited the Oromo people's article within 6 minutes of being active again [24].
  • ChiefWanag is aware of obscure niche articles created by sockmaster MustafaO, e.g. Fiqi Aadan, an article created by MustafaO with a daily average pageview of 1 and 11 total edits [25]. They also edited Boon, Awdal [26], another obscure article created by sockmaster MustafaO with a daily average views of 1. Both articles related to Gadabursi/Dir Somali clan, which more or less has been the focal point of MustafaO edit history.
  • Identical edit summaries:
  • "Fixed typo" as an edit summary on articles related to Cushitic languages, e.g. [27], [28], edits were only a few hours apart. This exact phrasing is used heavily by sockmaster MustafaO e.g. [29], [30], [31] (... etc etc).
  • "Added content" as edit summary for Somali related articles (ChiefWanag: [32], [33], MustafaO: [34], [35] ...etc etc).
  • Timeline continuity between accounts: On 2 April, sockmaster MustafaO edited at 18:38 (UTC) [42], Ahmed Lafaciise (confirmed sock) edited between 18:54-19:01 [43]. A few hours later ChiefWanag made his first ever edit since 2017 at 01:17 on 3 April [44]. ChiefWanag continued to make edits until 07:34 [45], at which point edits on this account stopped and MustafaO made an edit 20 minutes later to protest his unblock request being declined [46].
  • Identical behaviour on other Wikipedia sites:

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Notifying @TomStar81: as the editor who started this SPI file. Please feel free to add any other findings if I've missed anything. Best regards --Kzl55 (talk) 17:49, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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20 April 2020

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Suspected sockpuppets

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  • Just like most recent confirmed sock account ChiefWanag became active the day sockmaster MustafaO's request for unblocking was denied, Dananley account was registered 16 April [51], only a few hours after last sock account was confirmed and blocked [52].
  • Clearly not a new account per editing history [53].
  • Identical interest in the same projects as sockmaster, namely Horn of Africa and articles related to Gadabursi/Dir Somali clan per their editing history [54].
  • Identical style of spamming articles related to Horn of Africa with minor edits to establish editing history: confirmed sock ChiefWanag [55] (90 edits in 24h), Dananley [56] (150 consecutive edits in 24h).
  • Awarness of niche articles of interest to sock master MustafaO, e.g. Awbare with a daily average views of 1, [57]. This niche article was edited by sockmaster and 2 confirmed socks Aqooni and ChiefWanag [58]. Another example is their editing of Awbube, a niche article with under 1 pageviews per day created by sockmaster MustafaO [59].
  • Identical POV to sockmaster and confirmed socks, Dananley restoring edits made by confirmed sock ChiefWanag [60], [61].
  • Idiosyncratic edit summaries:
  • "Fixed typo" as used by sockmaster MustafaO, confirmed socks Ahmed Lafaciise and ChiefWanag [62], [63], [64](... etc etc), is used by Dananley in the same manner [65], [66] (... etc etc).
  • "Added content with reference": sockmaster used this exact phrasing often as an edit summary e.g. [67], [68], [69] (..etc), the same phrasing is used as an edit summary by Dananley [70], [71], [72].

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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I've blocked and tagged them. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kzl55 and TomStar81: What are your thoughts on the possibility of this being Middayexpress? Also, based on your experience, would you say that MustafaO has a strong focus on Somalia and Ethiopia especially in comparison to Middayexpress? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Callanecc: I've actually been looking into that by tracking down Middayexpress's edits from the solaminet forum he was on, and discovered that one of the people there though it was possible he had cross pollinated on another forum. If he had called for edits to help police the articles here then its not out of the realm of possibility what we have have here is an evolution of Middayexpress's socks to socks that may be more adequately described as part of a paid editing ring such as we had orangemoody: one common link, but a very scattered patterned to account for it. The common thread, then, would be the geographical Horn of Africa region with a strong focus on racial and ethnic groups living in it. Before he departed Bbb23 had thought an LTA entry would be a bad idea due to the technical issues of tracking Middayexpress (he was a checkers, I'm not, so my ability to look under the hood is limited to observation whereas he and you can actually pop the hood and examine in detail) and two previous attempts to get consensus for general sanctions failed because the community didn't see the need for them. Do I personally think this is Midayexpress? Yeah, I see too many similarities for it just to be a coincidence. Do I professionally think that this is Middayexpress? The jury's still out on that one, since the more I think about it the more I suspect others may have taken up his cause, all the more so since we appear to be very slow on shutting down sock accounts for the blocked editors in this field. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • If there are behavioural differences between the two masters (even if it is an evolution) it probably makes sense to track them separately (different SPIs). I'm not too familiar with the technical background to Middayexpress, but it will help separate behavioural and technical differences that I can see. For now it'd be better not have have an LTA page for Middayexpress or MustafaO based on what I can see. Also, it's definitely worth requesting CU for MustafaO when an SPI is filed. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:22, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • PS: You may want to look at User:Koodbuur and User:Somajeeste too, they could be part of the drawer. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:15, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

02 June 2020

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Suspected sockpuppets

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It appears recently blocked sockmaster MustafaO is using dormant sock accounts as well as IP editing to circumvent their block:

Behavioural evidence:

  • DejazmachQabridahar account registered 10 November 2016 [83], exactly 3 days prior to confirmed sock account Jamalwalal (13 November 2016) [84].
  • Identical interest in the same projects as sockmaster, namely Horn of Africa, particularly articles related to Gadabursi/Dir Somali clan per their editing history [85].
  • DejazmachQabridahar's top edited article is Sheder, which has both sockmaster MustafaO and Jamalwalal as top 5 editors [86].
  • Awareness of (and edit warring on) niche articles created by sockmaster MustafaO, e.g Awbube, with daily average page views of 1 [87].
  • Identical edits on Awbube to confirmed socks ChiefWanag and Dananley [88], [89].

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Notifying @TomStar81: as the editor who started this SPI file. Please feel free to add any other findings if I've missed anything. Best regards --Kzl55 (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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20 November 2020

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Suspected sockpuppets

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Appears to be a sleeper account being used for block evasion. Behavioural evidence:

  • MerseySide was created on 21 July 2017 [97], and was inactive until 3 May 2020 [98], a week after sockmaster MustafaO was permanently blocked on 27 April 2020 [99]. This is Inline with activity patterns by other confirmed socks e.g.:
  1. ChiefWanag, account created 10 June 2017 [100], and after a short burst of activity dormant until 3 April 2020 [101], (only 2 days after SPI initiated against MustafaO on 1 April 2020 [102]).
  2. Cabdijimaale, account created 10 July 2017 [103], then dormant until 28 January 2020 [104].
  • Identical idiosyncratic insertion of dates in edit summaries as well as use of "fixed" wording: e.g. MustafaO [107], MerseySide [108], also MustafaO [109], MerseySide [110] [... etc etc].
  • Identical pushing of Somalia maps in Somaliland articles: MustafaO e.g. [111], [112], MerseySide e.g. [113], [114].
  • Awareness of niche articles of interest to sock master MustafaO, e.g:
  1. Awbare with a daily average views of 2, has sockmaster MustafaO, MerseySide and confirmed sock Aqooni in its top 5 editors' list [115]
  2. Awbube, another niche article with under 1 pageviews per day and created by sockmaster MustafaO has sockmaster MustafaO, confirmed sock ChiefWanag and MerseySide as its top 3 authors [116].
  • Restoring files originally added by sockmaster MustafaO. MerseySide [117], MustafaO [118].

This is a textbook WP:DUCK in my opinion. They are probably attempting evasion of technical scrutiny so please consider behaviour evidence presented. Best regards --Kzl55 (talk) 22:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC) Kzl55 (talk) 22:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Notifying @TomStar81: as the editor who started this SPI file. Please feel free to add your opinion or any other findings if I've missed anything. Best regards --Kzl55 (talk) 22:55, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Kzl55: Could be. Dating in the edit summary is a new thing though, we've never seen that before. A check through the cheat sheet suggests that this could also be either Mazi99, Sccsiciidafrica, or Siciid Cabdi Cismaan (Siciid Africa), all three show some similarities with this case. Of particular note here is that the account seemed almost exclusively concerned with editing its sandbox until September for some reason, and that the sandbox concerns an italian period for the Somalia area, which matches a fourth potential case, Brunodam. Also of interest is that the account appears to have changed behavior radically in September 2020, starting with a name change, which is new here. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:19, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TomStar81: I have had a look through Toltol15 and I am in agreement with yourself and @Zzuuzz: that its a sock. Please find behavioural evidence below (also pinging @GeneralNotability:):
  • Identical behaviour on Commons, namely uploading of old photographs of Horn of Africa tribal people: Toltol14 [119], Middayexpress [120], Soupforone (confirmed sock) [121], [122].
  • One of their first edits was on Gabra people [123], this article has confirmed sock Soupforone as the top authorship editor [124], Middayexpress is no. 7th.
  • Their 9th article edit was on Land of Punt [125], this one has both Middayexpress and sock Arboleh as 8th and 9th top editors respectively [126]. There are many other examples of such overlap in the Somali project.
  • Northeast Africa has Toltol15 and confirmed sock Arboleh as 1st and 2nd in authorship, with Middayexpress ranking 4th [127].
  • Away from Horn of Africa topics, they show identical interest in DNA related articles as Tomstar identified e.g. [128], the 2nd top editor on this article is Soupforone [129].
  • Interest in Maghrib-related articles e.g. Tassili n'Ajjer [130], confirmed sock Soupforone is no. 8th top editor on this article [131].
Seems like another WP:DUCK. Best regards --Kzl55 (talk) 22:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TomStar81: I wanted to say that Geeljire is a Somali word that means Camel Herder or nomad. It's rather generic and this banned user User:Geeljire having a similar name to my own doesn't imply any connection. This account is the only one I've ever had on Wikipedia and I am not a sock puppet of any kind. If the name similarity was what raised concern then I hope this clears things up. WanderingGeeljire (Talk) 1:03, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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  • Had a look elsewhere and found User:WanderingGeeljire, which I am laying odds on is a sock of User:Geeljire, which is presently blocked as he is a known sock in the Middayexpress farm. Additionally, a combative Somalia/Somaliland editor currently at WP:ANI under the header Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Persistent_disruptive_edits_by_USER:Toltol15_to_Sub-Saharan_Africa,_ignored_previous_ANI_report,_still_ignoring_explanations_and_warnings, User:Toltol15, should be check as well, s/he's got edits to the page Haplogroup CT, which includes Haplogroup T-M184, a know area of interest for the socks insofar as proving who is genetically part of what group is Somalia, and the edit summaries for the account are similar enough that I feel a check is justified. In particular, I call attention to this edit in which the account readds a map from an already blocked MustafO account ChiefWanag, and the fact that most of their early editing shows that they hit the ground running suggesting they already had a working familiarity with the site. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • MerseySide is  Confirmed to MustafaO. Meanwhile, Toltol15 is technically {{suspicious}}, and specifically, there's a lot of relatively unusual technical overlap with Middayexpress. It's not possible to say if these two farms are technically connected. -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:51, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Clerk note: MerseySide  Blocked and tagged. Zzuuzz, how strong would you say the link is between Toltol15 and Middayexpress? The notes in the latter's SPI archive indicate that these two groups have very similar POV but seem to be distinct. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm arriving at this SPI, and in this topic area, for the first time, so bear with me. For the sake of clarity, I have found no technical connection between Toltol15 and MustafaO. That is to say, it's inconclusive. When it comes to Toltol15 and Middayexpress, the technical evidence is quite unusual, but not completely conclusive. Quite unusual in fact, and relatively persuasive. Likewise the interaction (analyzer) is persuasive. If I had found them making the same POV (something I'm still getting to grips with), I'd have probably blocked them already (and they should probably be blocked anyway for just looking suspicious). I'm aware that these two SPIs were split back in April, and I'm in no position to say that was incorrect or really make any comment about it. However, I'm also aware that it is claimed that Middayexpress uses VPNs, which might confuse things, so I'm open minded. Hopefully that's clarified my understanding. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:39, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I reviewed Totol15, and they have a strong overlap with Middayexpress in articles edited but a few things give me pause. One big issue I see is that Totol removed some commentary that previous sock Soupforone added. I'm feeling like this may be yet another editor with opinions about the Somali people and Horn of Africa (possibly one who knows Mustafa and/or Middayexpress...the archives indicate that there is a forum or something that these folks frequent, if I'm reading it right). If they're being problematic (POV-pushing, edit-warring, whatever) I recommend just blocking them on those grounds. The Middayexpress archives note that this is also an area with a lot of people with strong nationalistic viewpoints who are not necessarily related. I'm not certain enough to block Totol as a sock of either MustafaO or MiddayExpress, and as such am closing this without further action. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

24 November 2020

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Aside from the obvious usage of "imo" in both their names, these users are assisting each other edit war [132] [133] on Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn. The sock of MustafaO, Aqooni had vigorously sought a one sided POV that both Ragnimo/Ayaltimo support now [134]. On the Zeila article Ragnimo restored a MustafO edit thats essentially original research [135] [136].

Ayaltimo's first ever edit includes socking in the edit summary, how would the user know about socking so early in their editing on wikipedia? [137]

Both Ragnimo and Ayaltimo exhibit the same Dir (clan) clan point of view held by Aqooni sock of MustafaO, they believe all people and towns were only Dir and oppose multiple editors who even question this despite having clear sources indicated otherwise. [138] [139] [140].

MustafaO/Aqooni were the root cause of pushing the Dir claims using wp:synth. [141]. When I asked MustafaO for verifiable sources he simply ignored it however Ragnimo responds a year later. [142]

These editors seem to target my edits specifically, similar to what Aqooni/MustafaO did, both Ragnimo/Ayaltimo removed my edits on the same day in two different articles and joined discussion in both talk pages rapidly. [143] [144] Looking at the MustafaO sock that was just blocked few days ago, MerseySide reverted my edit [145]

These editors are disruptive as they're removing content on multiple pages [146] [147] Magherbin (talk) 22:39, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This seems to be a common pattern to launch an investigation on Somali editors who dare voice their opinions and surely if you check our timecards we've edited at the same time before. Just because we have "imo" in our names doesn't indicate anything. Ragnimo and Timo are two different Somali words just to end the confusion. This is another way for him/her to silence editors that don't agree with his agenda by launching an investigation on two individuals in the talk-pages, with the lack of sufficient evidence is a strong sign that he/she rather silence the consensus than engage in good-faith discussion.

If anyone is causing disruptive editing it's @Magherbin who repeatedly removed a neutral POV section that accepted his source [148] but couldn't accept the references that criticize his source and decided to revert more than four times which goes against the Wiki guidelines as you can see: [149] As for the Afar page I've asked him a few times and even pinged him in the talk page to discuss but he wasn't haven't it and engaged in edit warring while he was already clashing with @Ragnimo. He has yet to reply on the Afar talk page: [150] My real reason for Barbaria edits. Here is another reason why the user is being very dishonest and trying to silence the consensus. What I removed on that page did not relate to Ragnimo's edits because Ragnimo was removing the Monumentum Adulitanum theory as you can see: [151], while I was simply reverting vandalism from a suspected sock puppet from Hamza678yu [152] who never mentioned the Monumentum Adulitanum theory. I also have a small history with that user who I believe, is linked with Lampard1234 (banned) and TBftf (a new account just before Lampard got banned). Hamza678yu is a new account but his previous accounts had a relationship with this user. See here: [153].

Relating to my first edit. I came across reading the Harari page and saw some ridiculous claims and quickly signed up. I learned about the wiki guidelines first [154] before I could remove anything. I then started looking for the editor who added these claims so I can ping that user and engage in a discussion with him/her on the talk page but I realized the user was banned and if you click the user's page it suggests he/she was abusing multiple accounts as you can see: [155] so it's not rocket science to tell it was a sock puppet. He also claims I share views with MustafaO and believe all the people and settlement were Dir. First of all, where did I suggest Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn was Dir? Where did I claim any towns were Dir? This is yet another false accusation made by Magherbin. MustafaO and his socks are actually strictly focused on Gadabursi people and their settlements [156], [157], [158], [159], [160], [161], [162],[163], [164], [165] and so many more you can find through Gadabursi page. None of my edits have any connection to MustafaO. Again this is nothing more than a ridiculous accusation.

However, I find it amusing that @Magherbin would start an investigation of sock puppetting when he/she shows clear signs of being one of ‎@Lokiszm7 sock puppets since they both pretty much edit the same pages. One time I removed one of Lokiszm7 edits on the Harari page: [166] and Magherbin decides to reinstall his edits back. [167]

Lokiszm7 was one of the big contributors of Harari [168] and when he was banned Magherbin showed up and continued expanding the page [169] The same thing in the Arsi Oromo page [170] and the Imamate of Aussa [171]. They're always on the same pages and here are more examples: [172], [173] and for Harar here is Lokis doing many contributions: [174] then here is Magherbin doing the same big contribution: [175].

Both Lokiszm7 and Magherbin represent as one of the biggest contributors of Harari-related pages and heavily contribute to the same exact pages. It's only after when Lokiszm7 was banned that's when Magherbin showed up. Whenever somebody removes Lokiszm7 edits Magherbin always reverts them back. It's all very suspicious.

I would like an investigation to be done on those two users as they may be the same person since the evidences are very compelling. Ayaltimo (talk) 03:29, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First and foremost Ragnimo/Raganimo is a common Somali phrase meaning manlyness(Google it). Has nothing to do with the usernick Ayaltimo. Imo is not even a word or anything. Pathetic attempt at forcing a connection.

And How is it onesided POV? I explained that i created a balanced POV in the Talk page.[176] What appeared to me is that Magherbin sought to include the Arabian origin and make it seem like it's disputed when it ain't. You also used a source leaving out a chunk of the context and additional info around it. It's clearly a myth as explained by the authors. There is an oral origin story and that oral origin story is regarded as a myth. Thats how it follows. He refrences a book which he clearly didn't even read but nitpicked and he deliberately misintreprets to try and fit his angle. and he is has a long history of disrupting edits on Aw Barkhadle and edit warring with other editors around it [177] and also reported for vandalizing.

As for my Zeila edits, i have been a long time reader of Zeila and Mogadishu related pages and consequently signed up upon seeing disruptive edits and started editing and including additional sources forthem and info to progress them. These are two prominent cities and as such need to have correct sourced info on them. I reverted an edit after reading the talk pages and edit histories that he removed them on the basis that he think its Morrocan berbers and the source was from Ibn Battuta. Completely unrelated to Aqooni/Mostafa most of our edits don't even coincide and i have not edited any Dir related pages but felt the need to clarify that Dir are the taditional inhabitants of the city of Zeila like most of the common sources say whch he tried to remove in spite of that and It's an old edit put in place and has stayed on that page for a long time.

Magherbin has been making disruptive edits and made baseless claims. Like Somalis being Morrocan berbers or they were there before Somalis.[178]. Now because he is contested on it instead of defending his edits and responding back to us in the talk pages he launches false sockpuppet investigation on that simple basis in an attempt to shut editors down. He also likes to sends edit warnings to peoples talk pages to get them to stop restoring edits he takes out without explaining. He did the same to me on the Zeila talk page and took out edit that was sourced without even explaining it on the talk page how they were original research.[179]. As you can see i was also the only one who put forward a compromize to turn away from edit warring. And you can even see from the Talk page discussion he is editing under the intent that he believes Dark Skinned Moroccan people were living in Zeila and Somali coast throughout. Something no source or evidence ,scholarship or even anything supports or states , it's completely baseless. Which i have explained to him over & over and then again on a different talk page with Encyclopedic sources [180] to clear out any confusion. Ayaltimo likewise explained the same on the Yusuf talk page with another source. Yet it's ironic how he talks about Original research. He took out a source he didn't even investigate and mentions Ibn Battuta even though the source refrenced is not from him but from Futah Al-Habasha and you can see me point it out on the Zeila talk page.

His edits seem to have a specific ethnonationalist agenda behind it as pointed out by previous editors and these disruptive edits usually always associated with edits surrounding Adal, Zeila, Harrar and Somali figures related to such. Which Ayaltimo has shown above. You don't try to impose this disruptive editing or injection of Moroccan berber/Arab editing on Southern Somali sultanates or Islamic figures, which you appear to show little to no interest in. He also doesn't add this to the afromentioned Harrar/Harrari/Harla, Afar, oromo or related pages he edits. But includes weak sources/non-peer reviewed or add sources that don't mention what he writes down on those pages. He also shows no interest/engangement to the explanations or reliable sources given by other editors on the talk pages. Cheif sign that he is being deliberately disruptive. Also one of his confirmed alts are named BetaAmhara , confirms his Amhara/Ethiopian relation borrowed from the name Bete Amhara and that shows he has a specific ethiopian nationalist POV/motives which is most likely his reason behind these disruptive edits on Somali related pages. His Ethiopian based edits shared with his other alt Lokiszm7:[181] also shows it doing the same.

I agree with Ayaltimo it's Magherbin who instead need to be investigated for the possibility of being a disruptive sock. Ragnimo (talk) 07:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think Somali editors part of the WikiProject Somalia need to contact one of the Noticeboards, because this is clearly 'racial-profiling' on steriods. There is not a single active Somali editor that hasn't been accused of being a Sock-puppet. We shouldn't allow this to continue any further. Also, @Ayaltimo, I know you don't mean any harm but your 'comment' is quite similar to my comment in my own false Sock-puppet investigation[182]. I point this out because one of their silencing tactics is behavior analysis as a justification for a ban, hence you shouldn't directly take my words as your own. If Magherbin is really Lokiszm7 start a new investigation. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, don't let these false investigations discourage you guys from being bold and edit any article you feel needs your attention. That is your right. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 17:57, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldenDragonHorn your comment related to me because I was going through the same thing as you and truthfully speaking it seems to be a common thing to accuse Somali editors who follow a general view of being behind a sock. I didn't copy it but changed it into my own comment but I apologize if you felt wronged by it. I will launch an investigation on Magherbin and build a case for his sock puppetting habits. Regards Ayaltimo (talk) 18:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, no. Not offended at all. I agree with you 100%. Its just that 'behavior analysis' is frequently used to block a person, so I had to point it out. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will keep that noted, thanks for letting me know. I knew about the analysis behaviour but not to that extent which is why I changed it into my own comment but I guess you can't do that and to reply to your previous comment I am not discouraged at all. The ridiculous investigation he launched only motivated me to keep working on articles that need further attention. Ayaltimo (talk) 18:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I had a look at the thread linking back to Lokiszm7's blocked account by an admin, and Magherbin was indeed confirmed to be part of Lokiszm7's sock-puppet farm, along with Kikolio and Betamhara[183], all whom were confirmed to each-other and blocked. It seems the admin blocked him for six months and he was then given amnesty[184], though why a repeat-offender like Lokiszm7 with 4 accounts has been allowed to return under the confirmed sock Magherbin is very strange, considering there are entire threads about repeat-offending Somali editors, who promised to change, but were denied amnesty or blocked on sight. In any case, you guys should feel vindicated. Most of these investigations are started by actual sock-masters, and because they're doing it, in their minds, everyone else must be doing it too. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 01:13, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ragnimo, Ayaltimo, GoldenDragonHorn, and WonderingGeljire: What you need to understand is that its nothing personal, this is strictly business: we have had a lot of disruptive editing from two separate long term, highly prolific sock farms on sight whose goal was to advance a very once sided version of the history of ethnicity and so forth of the Horn of Africa region. Because the community has no regard for the disruption and therefore refuses to give us adequate tools to address this in a regional sense, we are left with the difficult task of attempting to discern whose accounts may be link to the farm based on behavioral and technical evidence. As a result, this tactic amount to carpet bombing and tends to catch a lot of unrelated accounts - some of them repeated, as AcidSnow (talk · contribs) can attest to. In each of your cases, the oncoming edits, the tempo, the tone, and the fact that each of you appear to know each other suggests to those familiar with the cases that you are acting in unison and may be one and the same person, which is why you keep ending up here. The best advice I can offer you to shake this off is to divest some editing into other Wikipedia areas and play friendly, as those two tactics general serve to disarm folks like us who through a rough road have become at times overly paranoid about editors and their intentions. TomStar81 (Talk) 15:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed. It is also worth noting that GoldenDragonHorn joined the discussion as soon as Ragnimo and Ayaltimo were reported, and without prior involvement in this SPI. This is not helping the case of them not colluding and/or socking with the others. There is also their activity on the original research noticeboard supporting Raganimo's POV [185]. This, coupled with their familiarity with Wikipedia and the project's history is odd for an account registered on 7 October 2020. --Kzl55 (talk) 16:09, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TomStar81: I don't understand what you're getting at. This is ethnic profiling and it's wrong. I hope you understand there are millions of Somalis out there who will sign up to fix the pages that need the most attention. Currently, all the Somali pages are poorly edited and need a lot of work to do. The so-called sock farms you're pointing out are two specific users which I had to look through and it seems MustafaO socks were only interested in Gadabursi related pages and currently, he's been caught and he has been editing at the same time range as the others. Middayexpress never supported the general view of Somali history and always tried to relate Arabic ties with Somali history as an example [186] claiming Mogadishu Sultanate was founded by Arab immigrants and these users have been removing/changing Middayexpress older edits and he was also a big contributor to North African related pages. I hope this sets apart what you're trying to get at, but I understand your frustration and will try to implement my editing skills to other areas in Wikipedia instead of specifically focusing on one area. Ayaltimo (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@TomStar81, thank you for confirming in writing what I already suspected. There is clearly a witch-hunt against 'active' Somali editors, who are either blocked, intimidated or discredited by repeatedly tying them to two banned individuals who happen to be from the same background. The fact that you used AcidSnow as an example of someone who was several times in the past wrongfully accused of being a sock is highly relevant to my point seeing as he seems to have completely left Wikipedia as an editor, despite having been a valuable contributor to the WikiProject Somalia. I also find it patronizing that Somali editors interested in upgrading Somali articles to GA and Featured level status should instead start editing articles about Snow White or Kathmandu to justify their right to exist on Wikipedia, which is ridiculous. The criteria used to tie individuals together in many of these cases is also highly suspect, example; above we have someone starting an investigation based on the words "imo" to connect Ragnimo with Ayaltimo, which is as absurd as tying Dostoevsky to Kavinsky, because both have 'sky' in their names. Future cases will be scrutinized carefully. I'm making it my personal mission and I will keep encouraging Somali editors to continue being bold and exercise their right to edit any article.
As for @Kzl55's assertion, I'm a programmer, Wikipedia's user-interface is ridiculously simple, no need to feel surprised that someone registered on the 7th of October (but a lurker for much longer, since Wiki is everyone's first point of reference when looking something up) should be so familiar with the platform, its not rocket-science. I also know what the feature 'contribs' stands for, so when I see an edit-war on an article that's on my watch-list like the Ajuran Empire, of-course I will look into the contribs of both editors to get a better understanding, which is how I landed on the noticeboard. If I was in-fact colluding with an editor on the inclusion of a specific map on that article I would have simply reverted you, but I didn't. If however, you really feel that I am a sock, then be my guest and set up another false investigation. It will only strengthen the case I'm currently building. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 20:10, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In addition to points raised above, it is also worth noting that editor GoldenDragonHorn's 3rd ever edit, done within ~10 minutes of registration, was on the talk page of editor Ragnimo [187]. --Kzl55 (talk) 22:16, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The spark that made me register on the 7th of October (as you earlier pointed out) was the desolate state of the Mogadishu article filled with Fringe Theories. Ragnimo in the article's talk-page indicated he was going to make significant changes, but there was an absence in his contributions, hence I contacted him first before I made my own extensive changes, which I did when there was no reply. Highly transparent, and nothing that violated Wikipedia policy, but this is one of the intimidation tactics I have observed before used against Somali editors. Create the impression that an editor has done something wrong, when they haven't. Not working. GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 22:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seems my advice fell on deaf years made hard by racist ideology. If thats what you believe then far be it for me to question your beliefs, by all means accuse and defame others. Just know that past a certain point editors will make a stand for fair treatment and when that happens you'll likely be blocked for being a bad influence, regardless of you contributions. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:32, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Asking for Somali editors to be treated fairly and without a knee-jerk 'suspect' tag attached to them based on their background is not a 'racist ideology'. We should be accorded the same good-faith that every nationality or ethnicity is given on Wikipedia. Stating or highlighting this fact is not justification to 'block' a person (again more intimidation). Its interesting though that you have added me to your list about Horn of Africa disruption solely on the basis that I have 'strong opinions' and therefore might be 'another sock-farm', which again just proves my point. Thank you. -- GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no place for straw man arguments here, there are plenty of Somali editors who have been editing without issue, including myself. The community is against a handful of persistent vandals, whose long history of disruption is recorded across multiple SPI reports. Take your racist views elsewhere. --Kzl55 (talk) 01:33, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other editors have pointed out the same systematic bias, and even admins have abstained from outright blocking a person in the past just because they shared interests. Highlighting this is not a 'racist view'. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • The central theme of GoldenDragonHorn's rhetoric, specific phrases (i.e. "intimidation) and line of attack (against TomStar81, the use of behavioural evidence, and insinuation of specific editors being "targeted") is identical to that of confirmed sock Soupforone. Please read the following three sentences from GoldenDragonHorn: 1) "There is clearly a witch-hunt against 'active' Somali editors, who are either blocked, intimidated or discredited by repeatedly tying them to two banned individuals who happen to be from the same background.", 2) "... but this is one of the intimidation tactics I have observed before used against Somali editors", 3) "... stating or highlighting this fact is not justification to 'block' a person (again more intimidation)". Now compare that with Soupforone/Middayexpress attack on Nick-D: "I am concerned that the Middayexpress user is now being used as a convenient scapegoat to slander new editors and intimidate/discourage them from editing pages related to the Horn of Africa. Moreover, I suspect that the moderator Nick-D (who is a WP:INVOLVED administrator that had at least one previous run-in with Middayexpress) or another party will try again to capitalize on this situation and attempt to block these editors on false "behavioral evidence" grounds, without Checkuser due process" [188]. The rhetoric, phrasing, and writing style is identical, a clear WP:DUCK. --Kzl55 (talk) 01:33, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure if go through SPI cases on different countries, ethnicities or cultures, I could find editors using the words 'intimidated' or 'targeted'. Its plain English, and this is the English language Wikipedia, but by your logic all those individuals are ducks of me. Ridiculous, but I see this is just a case of trying to 'rail-road' a quick block and silence someone who has pointed out something's rotten in Denmark. I'm going to look through all these SPI cases because if you can tie me to a banned editor on such flimsy comparisons, I'm 100% sure others were rail-roaded in a similar fashion despite being innocent. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just to re-inforce my above point that you can find commonalities anywhere, after having looked through MiddayExpress's archive, I came across a user called Ryanoo with similarities to Kzl55:

  • [189][190] Both users file their SPIs in an identical manner, including the overkill use of links.
  • [191][192] Both users contacted admin Doug Weller for assistance and began their messages with a variation of "Hope you're doing well".
  • [193][194] Both users deploy the distinctive "...etc" in their messages.
  • [195][196] Both users end their messages with "Regards".
  • Both users have edits on an obscure article like Savanna Pastoral Neolithic, which I hadn't even heard of prior to looking into their editing interaction, which points to a single user.
  • [197]Ryanoo by his 4th edit already shows a strong understanding of countering vandalism on Wikipedia, which is quite similar to Kzl55's quick grasp of vandalism tags a year earlier [198].

This is just from 10 minutes of searching through the various analytic tools on these cases. I'm pretty sure I could find more commonalities if I put in more time. This is the kind of straw-man technique Kzl55's uses to accuse people of being WP:DUCKs, completely violating WP:Civility, and is designed to wear out a new user until they leave the project altogether. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TomStar81: Noted. I'm compiling an extensive email to ArbCom about the entire situation, so you're right no need to drag this any further. This is my last contribution to this case. --GoldenDragonHorn (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at even in that thread Golden linked he is actively falsely accussing Somali editors [199] The biggest/consistent thing Kzl55 does is to attach people to MiddayExpress or so called socks related to that user. Which is problematic because MiddayExpress is the most prolific of Somali/Horn of African editors and has contributed to most of these pages and based on that users contrubution history has been here since wikis early days. That user is written all over these pages. That user is top editor on most of the pages. Basically KKzl55 evidence amounts to most of the time Middayexpress edited a page in 2015 and so did X. Therefore they are Midday, they share same interest. Even though the same logic can be applied to him.

GoldenDragonHorn is 100% right this is ethnic profiling. They are targetting Somali editors bydefault for having interest in and having contributions to Somali related articles and if they do they are automatically warranted to be suspected of being a sock of another previously banned Somali editor. Thats how the logic behind these allegations follow and consequently either blocked or scared away from editing. You can clearly see it in a recent case here where again Kzl55 accusses another editor Lad gudu of the same [200]

It was dismissed by a patrolling Editor Sro23 and what that editor said was true in his conclusion and this is the case for many Somali editors who join in late they have been long time lurkers or readers.

Therefore we should certaintly intrepret it this way because these allegations are based on the most flimsy grounds. Like Golden described it's done in the most Knee Jerk like reaction against Somali editors. Because they are linked to several cases that are proven false [201]and that haven't made them even deter or the least bit cautious in throwing these allegations around at people.

Kzl55 accused Magherbin of being Middayexpress as well just in the thread Golden linked [202] and his evidence amounts to the fact they edited the same pages one time (No suprise) and the usage of Makhzumi to describe Sultanate of Showa even though it's a common name for it in the literature around it. It's not a unique opinion or a fringe interest exclusive to a few. If i call Geledi Gobroon Dynasty and so does another editor one time. Is that evidence that make me and him one in the same? They are not even related to eachother and Magherbin i suspect isn't even a Somali editor and clearly lacks knowledge on Somali related content which youu can see from our talk page discussions and is Ethiopian/Amhara like it's shown above but Kzl55 nonetheless tried to link this editor to Middayexpress just like other editors are being frequently linked to that user repeatedly and accused of being that banned editor on the most filmsy behavioral grounds.

Also what's more suspicious in my opinion is how TomStar81 shows up[203] at almost every turn trying to legitimize it when these acussations arise and they are mostly agreeing with eachother. Almost as if they are colluding, and abusing/using their experience/position to build false cases against people and tie them to Middayexpress. Also from reading previous investigations it seem as if both of these editors have a personal problem with that one editor and have no problem nor are being catious about roping unrelated editors into that.

That's why i think GoldenDragonHorn first suggestion about it needing to be brought up to a noticeboard and get an uninvolved admins on board in this should be the best course of action. For there can be no fair unbiased inclusive progress in Somali/Horn Of Arican wiki projects if this is what's going to be the constant theme and it's done by these same few editors that are acting as sole gatekeepers. Ragnimo (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also just to adress the false attempt made by Kzl55 at trying to link me to GoldenDragonHorn. I signed up upon seeing the Mogadishu page disrupted. One of the first things i did was to make an addition to Mogadishu Talk page Talk:Mogadishu#Al-Zanj_and_Mogadishu's_founding. and i did so because i wanted the article to represent up to date and inclusive balanced point of view instead of one that is outdated and erroneous. And i was on the assumption that good faith editors experienced with wiki would see this and then include the suggestions i made to the page itself. I went back and forth with one of those editors that included the out of date content and as i was waiting for a response back before i began editing anything, then i became busy and left it. And i came back only several weeks after to respond back to GoldenDragonHorn after seeing what he wrote on the mogadishu the talk page and my own talk page after logging in [204] and as you can see from my response i do not have familiarity with wikipedia. I am a new user. I have only been actively editing this recent month or so even tho i joined in august. I also made several edit mistakes, even not knowing i needed sign afterwards and had no knowledge about no undue weight or fringe theory rule until GoldenDragonHorn explained it to me. It was after that i felt the need to become more familiar with wiki and read the rules and you can even look at my early contribution history in Aug[205] when i first signed up showing that i didn't know what the heck i was even doing. I was newbie after all. Ragnimo (talk) 06:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith I'm sure if you check my IP and @Ragnimo's IP then it'll show a different location and I wouldn't call that an identical edit. What happened was Magherbin reverted one of my edits on the Afar page [206] and I checked into his contribution and saw an edit war going on between him and another user. I came to check what they were disputing and I immediately stepped in because Magherbin was causing distributive editing on multiple articles. I was trying to show him the way it's better to discuss with good faith on the talk page instead of clashing with others you disagree with. I didn't know it would raise a suspicion just because I share an opinion. My opinion is a general opinion agreed on by the vast majority of people. I was a lurker on Wikipedia and saw Harari page many times. A lot of things mentioned there aren't mentioned by any sources. I sometimes use Wikipedia for information so I clicked on the references to check these claims and saw no mention of it. I decided to make an account and learned the rules of Wikipedia. I began looking for the user who made these edits and clicked on his page and it already mentions he was abusing multiple accounts [207] so it was not hard to tell it was a sock puppet and there was no reason for me to discuss with him on the talk page so I simply removed the edits and put sock puppet as my reason so I don't get into trouble for removing many letters. The sock puppet MustafaO is strictly focused on Gadabursi people and their settlements as I showed above. None of my edits have any connection to his. I would advise you with sincerity to please look into it properly because I am by no means a sock puppet and wished to contribute. I have not broken any rules other than being falsely accused for sharing an opinion. Ayaltimo (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RoySmith Just to briefly explain again i have been an active follower of Zeila article for them reason i was for Mogadishu. That edit i restored about Dir/Somali inhabitants of Zeila doesn't have anything to do with MostafaO, The fact that it has been a long standing addition to the page [208] way before that user or i even attempted to edit that page and has been there for a long time. For years. And i restored it after reading the Zeila talk page seeing Magherbin take it down because he believes wrongly that they were Moroccan berbers[209]. That one single restoration doesn't amount to edits being identical, especially since he wasn't the one that put it there in there first place.

With that said i'll let you carry on with Check User. It will prove i am not Ayaltimo or MostafaO. But after this there needs to be an evaluation around sockpuppet accusations frequently put on random Somali editors. Ragnimo (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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  • CheckUser requested and endorsed by clerk - Ugh, what a mess, but looking at:
  • Ragnimo and Ayaltimo making identical edits [210] [211]
  • Ayaltimo being familiar with socking on their 2nd edit [212]
  • Ragnimo and MustafaO making identical edits [213] [214]
  • The general socking history of the master
there's enough to justify CU. Oddly enough, the time cards for most of these are all around the clock. Either there's a lot of insomnia going on here, or it's possible there's account sharing. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From a checkuser perspective, and with all the usual disclaimers, I believe MustafaO, Ragnimo, Ayaltimo, GoldenDragonHorn, and WanderingGeeljire, are all (technically) unrelated to each other. Whether any one of them is possibly Middayexpress (or perhaps some other sockmaster) is something I can't say with any certainty at this time. For the sake of transparency, and contrary to claims in the archive, WanderingGeeljire has at least one other account called User:Geeljire101, however now that's out there and as long as WanderingGeeljire sticks to one account, I see no reason to block it. And really, everyone here should be sticking to only one account. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

30 March 2021

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Suspected sockpuppets

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Same modus operandi as previous sock Dananley. Starts with lots of pointless mini-edits in the topic range related to Horn of Africa, Afroasiatic languages (to get extended confirmed status?), and then goes into edit warring about similar topics. Diffs:

– Austronesier (talk) 10:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Behavioural evidence presented by Austronesier is quite compelling. I would add:

- Clearly WP:PRECOCIOUS, per their editing history [219].

- Interest in niche articles frequented by sockmaster MustafaO e.g. Awbare [220] an article with average daily views of 2, and edited by sockmaster MustafaO as well as confirmed socks Aqooni, ChiefWanag, Dananley and MerseySide [221]. Real-Surreal567's edits here restore content originally added by MustafaO [222], this is in line with previous confirmed sock activity e.g. [223]. Plenty of other niche articles frequented by MustafaO in which Real-Surreal567 edited include Makayl-Dheere (3 avg daily views).

- As mentioned by Austronesier, same style of peppering the article with many minor edits to quickly reach extended confirmed status, compare Real-Surreal567's edit history [224], to early edits of confirmed socks e.g. [225] and [226].

A WP:DUCK if I've ever seen one. Best regards--Kzl55 (talk) 14:06, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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  •  Clerk note: There are clear overlaps in the areas of interest, but I see some differences in editing style too. With nothing on the CU, I'm inclined to close this as no action for the timebeing, as the edit warring has stopped; they will be blocked for that quickly enough if they start it up again. GirthSummit (blether) 16:05, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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