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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 30, 2024.

Individual 1

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Not mentioned in the target article, and the target section does not exist (anymore). My first consideration was to "refine" to Donald Trump#Mueller investigation since they seems to be what the current target is meant to refer, but the issue of the redirects not being mentioned in the target article still exists. Other options I found were the articles Mueller special counsel investigation and Mueller report, but the redirects do not seem to be mentioned there either. However, this is an alternative name that has several sources ... not sure what the best path is here, but my thoughts are, in order of preference, delete (due to lack of mention), retarget to Donald Trump (remove the section redirect), retarget to Donald Trump#Muller investigation (but it's not mentioned there), or retarget to Mueller special counsel investigation and Mueller report (no mention at either one, my stance is equal on both). Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and career of Donald Trump

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In the target article's current state, the title of this redirect creates a potential WP:XY issue since the target section does not exist and the plausible section correction, Donald Trump#Early life and education, does not have any information about a "career". My first thought to fix this was to retarget to Donald Trump (remove the section redirect) since technically both subjects are in the target article somewhere, but since there seems to be no specific section to target this redirect, I decided to bring this redirect up for discussion since "delete" (weak delete for me) could be an option per the aforementioned WP:XY issue. Steel1943 (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religious views of Donald Trump

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The target section no longer exists. The target article does not seem to contain the specific subject referenced by these redirects: Words beginning with "relig*" exist in the article, but where these words are do not seem to provide information to satisfy readers who are searching these phrases. And ... there does not seem to be a standalone article to target these redirects. (Also, for what it's worth, none of these redirects are {{R from history}} or {{R from merge}}.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

House tree

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Implausible. C F A 22:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete there are significantly more house trees (which I'm assuming are trees that are grown inside a back garden) than tree houses (which are platforms built ONTO a tree that resemble a house) User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 00:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rfpp

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Unnecessary cross-namespace redirect. C F A 22:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RfPP redirects there, I think this should be kept. Heyaaaaalol (talk) 22:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've bundled RfPP into the nomination. They are both unnecessary and not exclusive to Wikipedia. C F A 22:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's the 2nd result on Google JayCubby 22:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second result for me is Reserve Fund Planning Program. WP:RFPP does not show up until the second page. C F A 22:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Huh! JayCubby 05:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moby cock

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was deleted byRsjaffe. charlotte 👸🎄 22:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible. C F A 22:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Heyaaaaalol (talk) 22:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged with {{Db-g7}} in response. Steel1943 (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Ainmay Agepay

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was deleted. charlotte 👸🎄 22:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unsure what this is supposed to be. C F A 22:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pig Latin, or Igpay Atinlay. Feel free to delete Heyaaaaalol (talk) 22:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Tagged with {{Db-g7}}. Steel1943 (talk) 22:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

Face Shrine

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Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Carter's rabbit

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Could be misleading since the subject of the target article is not a rabbit that was owned by Jimmy Carter. Compare this to the possibility of redirecting Jimmy Carter's UFO to Jimmy Carter UFO incident, which is equally as misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Scenic and Wild

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Without additional qualification, these terms seem a bit too broad and U.S.-centric to make good redirects to this specific topic. The ones lacking "river" in particular could refer to many different things. "National Scenic Waterways" is not a term described at target. Delete all. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:27, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete per nom cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 21:00, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 AP Poll

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Seems ambigous but I'm not totally sure what would be a better target. Could refer to 2024–25 NCAA Division I men's basketball rankings, 2023–24 NCAA Division I men's basketball rankings, 2023–24 NCAA Division I women's basketball rankings, 2024–25 NCAA Division I women's basketball rankings. But college football is the only one that only uses 2024. Esolo5002 (talk) 04:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:25, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The drafted page could be a WP:SIA under a title like 2024 NCAA Division I rankings, and 2024 AP poll could be an {{R from avoided double redirect}} to it. Jay 💬 07:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but also okay with the disambiguation page that was created. Of the sports that have an AP poll, college football is the only one that uses a single year for the season, while college basketball is a winter sport that is always two years (e.g. "2023-2024"), so the "2024 AP Poll" seems to clearly be the football one (while e.g. "2023-2024 AP poll" should be a disambig for the two basketball polls). Not against a disambiguation, as it's certainly better than deletion. I am pretty skeptical that people typing in 2024 AP Poll would be looking for an Andhra Pradesh election. Legoktm (talk) 06:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relist to give consideration to the disambiguation draft.
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Peanutgate

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Not mentioned in target article, making the connection between the target and the redirect unclear. In addition, third party search engines seem to associate this phrase with Peanut the squirrel for some reason, but the redirect isn't mentioned in that article either. Steel1943 (talk) 20:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'd assume it refers to the handling of Jimmy Carter's peanut farm while it was placed in a blind trust, but couldn't tell you for sure. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Refine to § Allegations and investigations, with a hatnote to Peanut the squirrel . The terms seems to be used by the media to refer to the investigations on Jimmy Carter's peanut farm. [1][2]
However, it is also used to describe the Peanut the squirrel incident. [3][4] Ca talk to me! 07:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BlueAir

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This revision essentially states why this redirection is unclear: The version of this phrase without a space seems to more commonly refer to the brand of air purifiers owned by Unilever. Redirecting readers to the current target with this title is misleading. With that being said, I'm not sure if delete per WP:REDLINK (the brand seems notable) or weak retarget to Unilever would be more helpful here, considering a hatnote placed on the latter may be a bit confusing since there's no real clear place in Unilever to place a respective hatnote referring readers to the nominated redirect's current target, though the redirect is currently mentioned in Unilever. Steel1943 (talk) 20:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The air purifiers are Blueair, not BlueAir. I think this version is a very plausible incorrect name for both the air purifier and the airline. However, the image and mention of "BlueAir" at the current target and the prominence of the airline over the air purifier as encyclopaedic topics mean to keep with hatnote is preferable IMO. J947edits 23:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Begich, Jr.

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There are a lot of mentions of this guy across Wikipedia, so I'm not really sure where the best target is or if there's a good target. I would propose WP:RETURNTORED, but the article at Nick Begich (author) got deleted earlier this month, so it doesn't seem like he's notable as of now. Possible targets include the current one and HAARP#Conspiracy theories (where there are claims of a merge to at the AFD, and at least it sounds like there used to be a redirect to there, but I can't see the page history and it feels like a weird target). I would probably keep as-is, but I figured it was worth a nomination. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 16:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • There's four articles which appear to have discussion of this bloke from a cursory search:
    1. Nick Begich III#Early life and familyBegich was born to Nick Begich Jr., an author and business owner
    2. Tom Begich#Personal lifehis brother Nick Jr., is a conspiracy theorist author, scientist, and researcher
    3. High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program#Conspiracy theoriesNick Begich Jr., the son of the late U.S. Representative Nick Begich Sr., brother of former U.S. Senator Mark Begich and retired Alaska state senator Tom Begich, and father of current U.S. Representative Nick Begich III is the co-author of Angels Don't Play This HAARP
    4. List of United States political families (B)#BegichesNick Begich Jr. (born 1958), candidate for Governor of Alaska 1998, candidate for Alaska state representative 2004. Son of Nick Begich and Margaret Begich and father of Nicholas Begich III
  • They leave three options in my opinion: target #3, target #4, or delete to search results. I think target #3, the natural target, is best – so weak keep. There's about the same amount of info there as at target #4, but it's a redirect to a list which exists for that purpose, as opposed to the perhaps unwise profile of him before introducing his conspiracy theories as found at target #4. Search results are slightly less preferable than these two options in my opinion. J947edits 23:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chick-Fila

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Clear consensus to keep and no reason to relist. (non-admin closure) Skynxnex (talk) 17:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly a pretty weak nom due to the capitalization and the dash, but couldn't it also be possible that a learner who doesn't natively speak english would also be looking for the chicken tenders article (as to which chick fillet isn't a redirect to but also wouldn't mind it existing) User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 10:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I don't think people who are learning English as a second language would add the dash to be honest. I also think the more expected result for this redirect would be the current target. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Even though consensus says to keep, I'm still certain that pronunciation also plays a role here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 11:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • keep, preferably speedily now. if a not-very-native english speaker would mistake "fila" for something, it'd be one of the word's meanings in other languages, like "queue" in portuguese (whatever that is). even then, it's also pretty implausible that someone would type "chick-fil" expecting literally anything other than that tortured pun of a restaurant chain consarn (formerly cogsan) 12:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy close as keep, improperly relisted by nominator. Even I (stubborn as I am), think this is a reasonable error of an unusually styled brand name, and nothing else. 35.139.154.158 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

PITNOL

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As below, no evidence that this song is referred to by either of these initialisms. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:E9BC:B9ED:405A:596B (talk) 18:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the target and creator talk pages.
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アメリカ

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This is the Japanese word for "United States". The current target is unlikely to be what an ordinary reader is trying to find for when they type this into the search box. Retarget to Names of the United States#Names in the Asian cultural sphere where discussed; compare previous discussions on 미국 and 美利坚合众国. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 10:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the creator and current and proposed target pages.
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Hindh

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"Hindh" isn't mentioned in that section (or anywhere, really). This would be borderline CSDable since there IS technically a prior consensus, but it's not the same target as it was when the previous discussion happened User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Cilla Single

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Can't find where Ben Frank ever used this as a pseudonym. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC) TeapotsOfDoom (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Okmrman (talk · contribs). [reply]

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  • Comment surprisingly (to me) this seems to be attested despite very limited online hits: Franklin, Benjamin; Smyth, Albert H. (1905). The writings of Benjamin Franklin. New York, London: Macmillan Co.; Macmillan & Co. OCLC 1158474884. Retrieved 2024-11-28. (on page 186). I'm very unsure how someone would end up searching for this term without knowing it was a pseudonym of Franklin's however.
  • This may be added to the target at the "Success as an author" section where it says He frequently wrote under pseudonyms. If we have 3 or 4 names, Cilla Single can be mentioned alongwith them. Jay 💬 06:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unless someone takes the initiative to add a mention themselves. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rich Farmbrough has added a reference, but an IP removed it and tries to excuse himself by calling out Rich's editing restrictions where it doesn't apply User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 00:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks like Cilla Single is a misspelling for Celia Single to me. J947edits 21:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Best Comedy Series

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Other "Best Comedy Series" awards exist, either using that exact title (Canadian Screen Award for Best Comedy Series, International Emmy Award for Best Comedy Series) or very similar wording (Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Comedy Series, Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series – Musical or Comedy). Suggest disambiguation. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Baltimore

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either retarget to WP:WikiProject Maryland/Baltimore task force or WP:Meetup/Baltimore or disambiguate; it's weird to point to one specific meetup and no incoming links. charlotte 👸🎄 02:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proteen

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I could only find mostly NN brand names from a search for "Proteen", and one single YouTube account. Couldn't find anything about people misspelling "protein" as this User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 11:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I also can't find evidence of this being even an uncommon misspelling of protein and there are legitimate reasons to search the specific 'proteen' spelling. It would be a small net negative to cover up search results with such an uncommon (though plausible) spelling error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Synpath (talkcontribs) 03:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; seems to be an ambiguous misspelling. Readers can find the correct spelling of protein before going to Wikipedia, and there are other topics which seem to be described as "proteen" with this specific spelling. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete due to the ambiguity issues shown by 35.139. If you hear "protein" for the first time you're probably going to spell it something like "proteen", but that is insufficient justification IMO to take the reader away from the quite helpful search results. J947edits 23:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Woo (comics)

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Redirected to the current target in 2019, but now not mentioned there. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Freak off

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I just removed an unsourced mention of this phrase at target. Even if a source were added, they're not the same thing: Per [5], there are allegations of sexual exploitation at the White Parties, but that's distinct from the alleged freak-offs in hotel rooms. If there's a place this should target, it's Sean Combs sexual misconduct allegations, but currently "Freak-off" only appears in citations there. If mentioned in the body of that article, I'd support a retarget. Else, delete. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 03:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This does seem to be genuinely used as a term to refer to the Diddy Parties, as is reported by reliable sources with respect to the lawsuit. So it's used, and it seems to be a reasonable search term for something related to this. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Mention has not been added at Sean Combs sexual misconduct allegations.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Just added the unhyphenated version to this nomination, as suggested above by 162 etc.
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Studio Hamburg

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Studio Hamburg is an existing production company in Germany. See its German language article at de:Studio Hamburg. The existence of the incorrect redirect here forces an error when using the standard interlanguage link template when one attempts to create an ill to the German Wikipedia article 'Studio Hamburg'. Doprendek (talk) 00:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Wandsbek Studios was renamed to Studio Hamburg in 1961, per the article content at Wandsbek Studios. Unfortunately, we don't have anything on the English Wikipedia at this time for de:Studio Hamburg (to my understanding). In the absence of specific material, redirects on the English Wikipedia should point to English Wikipedia pages that exist, not German pages that we would like to exist on the English Wikipedia. When material related to de:Studio Hamburg is added to the English Wikipedia, the redirect can be disambiguated. Utopes (talk / cont) 18:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]