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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 19, 2020.

Ernie Newton (bass plyer)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We all may have plyed played the bass or been a champion basketball playe player in our lives, but I'm not sure we need these two redirects, especially since they're questionably plausible misspellings (although I can see someone forgetting to press the A and/or R key, and "ply" is used as a verb-meaning different things-and "playe" an obsolete spelling of "play"), and they don't seem to get a lot of pageviews these days. Regards, SONIC678 23:49, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Federacion uruguaya de basketall

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Spanish name is definitely a plausible search term, but I don't know about it with "basketall"...the correctly spelled "basketball" will appear in the search bar in most cases if the user types in this word. Regards, SONIC678 23:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Trumpdemic

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A hashtag that doesn't seem to have been picked up in reliable sources yet. It's in some degree of usage, but not in sources that would be consider reliable - use on Reddit doesn't mean we need to create a redirect for this. Hog Farm (talk) 23:16, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The same user also created Trump pandemic I think it’s similar enough that it should be added.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 03:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Delete as non-neutral term not mentioned in the article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Driving in canada

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is a good target for this page. Interstellarity (talk) 19:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Surgical Strike India 2016

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 02:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does not seem like a likely term to be used for searching, main article is 2016 Indian Line of Control strike Ravensfire (talk) 18:15, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Equational

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Niob

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hluk#Niob. Very, very weak consensus for this option, but since no one voted for Keep this seems preferable to a no consensus close. signed, Rosguill talk 02:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could conceivably be a misspelling of Niobe instead of niobium, or a WP:FORRED from the German name for the element. I'd recommend a weak retarget there if this misspelling seems reasonable, or otherwise deletion. ComplexRational (talk) 18:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Dangerous global warming

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The result of the discussion was consensus to delete the first two, no consensus for the last two. signed, Rosguill talk 02:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are these redirects appropriate for a conference that didn't have that title, or is a better target Climate change mitigation? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Already released "upcoming" redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another bundle of "upcoming" redirects for movies that have already been released...why would they still be "upcoming?" Regards, SONIC678 20:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete all There is long-standing consensus to delete outdated redirects. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:10, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per longstanding consensus, which in fact qualifies them all for G6 housekeeping speedy deletion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Referring to precedent should not be considered enough; consensus can change. Should we really inconvienience so many readers? — J947 [cont] 00:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • So you are saying you can singlehandedly change consensus? I don't think you understand how consensus works. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:04, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, of course I can't. I'm just saying that people are referring to precedent, and a better thing to refer to is what will gained by deleting the redirect. — J947 [cont] 01:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Except the whole point is that the many, many good statements of what will be gained for deleteing thse have already been spelled out in the many prior discussions for identical redirects, as would be clear from a read of any of the discussions at the links helpfully provided by LaundryPizza03. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • The points raised in the previous discussions are that the redirects are "inaccurate" and "useless". As I have demonstrated above, the redirects are not useless due to the high presence of old links, and that their inaccuracy does not matter due to the very low number of readers who search this term up. Over many discussions, I have still yet to see a rebuttal to this. — J947 [cont] 03:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - I know that there's a whole big debate here, but I still think that these are inappropriate. Yes, editorial consensus can change, but I don't see a really compelling reason to try and do that. Being perhaps slightly helpful doesn't change the fact that these are misleading. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 16:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all. Factually incorrect, misleading, and a potential waste of editorial time. Should WP:RS sources say that a new film is planned under any such title, a new article will be needed. The way to show that is by having a redlink not a confusing bluelink pointing to the wrong place which a puzzled editor will have to check out. Narky Blert (talk) 06:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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World Café

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The result of the discussion was implement Biogeographist's suggestion. signed, Rosguill talk 01:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replace with this disambiguation. Pageviews do not indicate a clear primary topic. The line for the radio program briefly crosses the line for the conversational process. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:
Mislinks to the wrong topic which I corrected, prompting my desire to change this to a dab: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight... wbm1058 (talk) 14:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose disambiguation page (Keep redirect): "World Café" is not a proper spelling of the radio program World Cafe (https://worldcafe.npr.org). The conversational method, on the other hand, is widely referred to by both capitalized forms "World Café" and "World Cafe" on the web. (For that reason "World Cafe" would be the better disambiguation page, not "World Café", but I would oppose any disambiguation page for reasons given below.) The definitive book on the conversational method, The World Café: Shaping Our Futures Through Conversations That Matter, uses the capitalized form "World Café". The Wikipedia article on the conversational method follows the Wikipedia Manual of Style and does not capitalize the term because it is not a proper noun—but most readers would be familiar with the capitalized form outside of Wikipedia, therefore the redirect from "World Café" to "World café" is entirely appropriate. The existing hatnote at the top of each article is sufficient to guide whatever very low number of readers happens to land on the wrong article. A disambiguation page would add an unnecessary layer of decision-making and clicking for too many readers. This a situation where any few mislinks that pop up just have to be corrected manually when they are noticed. There are currently no mislinks to either article. Biogeographist (talk) 15:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed World Café (Ron Korb album), which may justify the creation of a disambiguation page at World Café (disambiguation), which could be added to existing hatnotes, e.g., For other uses see World Café (disambiguation), but pageviews for the album are so low that I would still oppose replacing World Café with a disambiguation page. Biogeographist (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Café and Cafe both redirect to Coffeehouse. To say that either is a misspelling of the other is kind of ridiculous. The distinction is not meaningful. If "World Café" is entirely appropriate then calling it a miscapitalization is inappropriate; hence I made this edit. But, as I found the eight links to the radio program listed on Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations de-flagging them as miscapitalizations removes them from that maintenance list without fixing the mislinks, and leaves the door open to creation of more undetected mislinks in the future. Making this a disambiguation replaces /Linked miscapitalizations with WP:Disambiguation pages with links as the mechanism for resolving this problem. Without that there is no way for gnomes to "notice" the mislinks. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now I see that your goal is to have relevant mislinks show up at WP:Disambiguation pages with links. But there are some other things you are not considering. First, your example of café/cafe/coffeehouse is irrelevant because they all refer to the same common noun, the same class of things. In contrast, the name of the radio show World Cafe is a proper noun; it can be misspelled, and it is not the same thing as the conversational method. Second, if you want to catch mislinks you will need both "World Café" and "World Cafe" to show up, because the mislinks can go either direction. Does a redirect to a disambiguation page also show up at WP:Disambiguation pages with links? If so, then: Third, the better disambiguation page would be "World Cafe", because, as I said above, "World Café" and "World Cafe" are both used (even by experts on the subject) to refer to the conversational method, but "World Café" is never correctly used to refer to the radio show. So it would be better to move the current article World Cafe about the radio show to something like World Cafe (radio show), replace World Cafe with a disambiguation page that says "World Cafe may refer to:", and redirect World Café to the new disambiguation page at World Cafe. This would not be perfect, but it would be the better way to reach your goal. Biogeographist (talk) 17:45, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
At 05:24, 31 October 2015‎ Tbhotch moved page World Cafe (radio program) to World Cafe over redirect: The hatnote, and the article "The", already help to distinguish them.
I don't follow what The World Cafe is about. Is there a specific world café properly named "The World Cafe" or "The World Café"?
At 20:23, 25 May 2013‎ Nplanchon moved page The World Cafe to The World Café: Standard spelling
At 01:18, 8 January 2015 Fbell74 moved page The World Café to World Café (conversational process) (This title is slightly incorrect. It refers to a conversational process known as World Cafe rather than The World Cafe. while the other refers to a radio program. These changes will help to clarify)
At 15:22, 10 February 2017‎ Kaihsu moved page World Café (conversational process) to World Café
At 00:47, 30 October 2017‎ SMcCandlish moved page World Café to World café over redirect: Per MOS:CAPS (this is not a proper name, but a general concept)
I would be OK with moving back to World Cafe (radio program) and World Café (conversational process) / World café (conversational process) – wbm1058 (talk) 18:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The previous article moves listed above do not seem to have considered the current goal: to have relevant mislinks show up at WP:Disambiguation pages with links. So rearranging the articles seems justified given the new consideration. How does this sound:

  1. Move World Cafe back to World Cafe (radio program).
  2. Move World café to World café (conversation): This would match the title of the somewhat similar subject Fishbowl (conversation), and would address the objection of SMcCandlish (in the previous redirect discussion linked above) to the huge parenthetical string in the title World Café (conversational process). Retain lowercase "world café" because the term is used as a general concept and common noun, as seen in that article's lead: "A world café (styled as World Café) is..."
  3. Create the disambiguation page at World Cafe.
  4. Redirect World Café and World café to the disambiguation page World Cafe.
  5. Either delete The World Cafe and The World Café and World Café (conversational process) or redirect them to the disambiguation page World Cafe. The World Café is the title of the definitive book on world cafés, but the book is itself is likely not notable.
  6. Fix new mislinks.

I commented at Talk:World café § Move proposal, April 2020 and Talk:World Cafe § Move proposal, April 2020 notifying of this discussion. Biogeographist (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do it Biogeographist's way. That's a good solution. For point 5, redirect rather than delete, or people will just end up creating more redirects (or worse, like accidental forks).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:53, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Auparashtika

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THE WHITE HOUSE

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The result of the discussion was WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure) Soumyabrata stay at home wash your hands to protect from coronavirus 05:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RCAPS. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:41, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sseasons, seassons, and so forth

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ssome of thosse pagess were moved to their correct titless, annd they donn't sseem to get very many pageviewss compared to their targetss. Nnot ssure what use they are nnow, ssinnce the correctly formatted versionnss exisst. Regardss, SSONNIC678 16:41, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Tomorrow Never Days (video game)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect, as I don't think it's a common error to warrant it. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 10:45, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ozonator

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Ozone#Production. signed, Rosguill talk 02:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Term not mention in the target article (WP:R#ASTONISH). Concept is possibly notable ([2]) but that redirect is not helping anyone. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added term to the ozone article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Spankenburg

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 21:31, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An ancient fresco from Spankeburg

This was created with an edit summary asserting that this is a common misspelling. Searching online, virtually all results seem to be of people named Spankenburg. With no page history other than the day it was created, I think that this redirect is better off deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 19:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiburones Rojos de Coatzacoalcos

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 02:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are two seperate teams. Tiburones Rojos de Coatzacoalcos existed from 2006-08, playing in the second-tier Primera Division A. C.D. Veracruz Premier existed from 2015-18 in the third-tier Liga Premier de México. JTtheOG (talk) 00:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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