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Earthquakes in the United States (2)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:09, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, each of these only contain one page, and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_9#Earthquakes_in_the_United_States. However, I noticed that in each of these categories, the earthquake didn't actually take place within that state, but it had effects there. That might be the reason these weren't included in the last nomination.
Notifying @Aidan721, Marcocapelle, and Laurel Lodged:. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 21:39, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms jiedushi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging:
full list of more than 200 categories on the talk page
examples
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, nearly all categories contain 1-3 articles. These are jiedushi split by every combination of dynasty and province, which is quite exaggerated considering that the period of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms lasted only 72 years. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:02, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists about role-playing games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Role-playing game-related lists. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More standard naming. ★Trekker (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films about Asian Canadians[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 17#Category:Films about Asian Canadians

Category:Southeast Asian Games sport venues[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCVENUE. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Water pollution[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only one article in each of these categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from the Republic of Ireland[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 17#Category:People from the Republic of Ireland

Category:Russian tsars[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Tsars of Russia. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To clarify that it is occupants of a particular office in a particular state. It's possible that a Russian national might have been "Tsar of Bulgaria". Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:45, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tsardom of Russia people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the format of other members of "former countries" and other multi-ethnic empires with compound names. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • No objection to the nomination but the whole tree sounds unnecessarily complicated. Tsardom of Russia is not really a former country, it is an existing country with just another type of head of state. Category:16th-century Russian people and Category:17th-century Russian people should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle I think there are good reasons for splitting this out into separate category trees by analogy to Category:Wars involving Russia. Editors have been complaining for years that we shouldn't equate the Kievan Rus', Muscovy, the Tsardom, the Empire, the Soviet Union and the current Federation, as this can lead to overclaiming of "credit" of historical events, "achievements" and people by the current Federation. It is for this and other reasons that I have done my part in diffusing it further into subcategories, which other users had already done.
    I think that in most cases the words "Russian", "Ukrainian" and "Belarusian" are inappropriate for pre-1500 categories in general. (See also the Category:Ukrainian knights CfD.) Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Agree with the latter, but we are discussing post-1500 here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      Then I still think it's better to make this distinction. Tsardom of Russia =/= Russian Federation. WP:SMALLCAT may be a good reason for upmerging, but otherwise I recommend diffusing. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nuns from the Russian Empire[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 17#Category:Nuns from the Russian Empire

Category:Tsardom of Russia nuns[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 29#Category:Tsardom of Russia nuns

Category:Tsardom of Russia ladies-in-waiting[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 29#Category:Tsardom of Russia ladies-in-waiting

Category:Tsardom of Russia people of Scottish descent[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Russian people of Scottish descent. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:07, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SmallCat. If retained, rename to Category:People from the Tsardom of Russia of Scottish descent. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:28, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French Polynesian lawyers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:09, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SmallCat (1). If retained, rename to "Lawyers from French Polynesia". Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:02, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Striking my earlier vote, as nom's rationale is no longer applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted by request of the closer: see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 May 17. Is this still a SMALLCAT?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - no longer meets WP:SMALLCAT.--IdiotSavant (talk) 06:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - 7 articles, usually regarded as sufficient. Oculi (talk) 09:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ghanaian Inspector Generals of Police[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Ghanaian Inspectors General of Police. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:07, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Correct plural, per Inspector General of Police of the Ghana Police Service article StAnselm (talk) 02:39, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Primary Chronicle manuscripts[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Primary Chronicle textual witnesses. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:07, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: User:Srnec and I agreed at Talk:Trinity Chronicle#Manuscript? that this would be a clearer and more correct name given the widespread terminological confusion in the field of Rus' chronicles between letopis/chronicle/annal/manuscript/spisok/codex etc. "textual witnesses" is the most unambiguous term, especially for texts such as the Trinity Chronicle of whom the original manuscript is lost, but much of the text has been preserved in quotations. The term is widely used in textual criticism, especially biblical criticism, including here on English Wikipedia, e.g. Mark 1#Textual witnesses. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 02:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stars named from the Arabic language[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There are already lists. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Arabic" already and unambiguously refers to the language. Eyesnore 01:30, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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