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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vadim Abdullayev[edit]

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Unsourced BLP except for stats. Fails GNG and BIO. BEFORE showed stats, ROUTINE, database, primary. Nothing that meets IS RS SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth.

BLPs need clearly IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability to avoid abuse per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  14:05, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman:, I found many sources (see below). Clearly significant figure in Azerbaijani league football with ongoing career and 60+ appearances in fully pto Azerbaijani top flight. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 18:50, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - @GiantSnowman:, I found [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], and [8], among many many more Azerbaijani and Russian sources. Clearly significant figure in Azerbaijani league football with ongoing career and 60+ appearances in fully pto Azerbaijani top flight. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails GNG. None of the above sources provide significant coverage of him. Dougal18 (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At least a few of them go into his background and career. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to agree with Dougal, looks to be a few interviews in local press and that's about it? GiantSnowman 07:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@GiantSnowman:, Based on my experience, former Soviet states tend to have interviews as one of the highest forms of sports coverage compared to other countries. Based on that, Abdullayev is clearly a significant figure in Azerbaijani league football with ongoing career and 60+ appearances in fully pto Azerbaijani top flight. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 10:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Based on my experience, former Soviet states tend to have interviews as one of the highest forms of sports coverage compared to other countries." - That's not been my experience at all. Take Gennady Smirnov (an article I created a few years ago) for example; he was a significant figure and was profiled after retirement, and again after dying. Jogurney (talk) 13:51, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jogurney:, I looked at your other articles about Soviet footballers (e.g. Almaz Chokmorov, Valery Reinhold, Leanid Harai, Vladimir Bychek, Viktor Razumovskiy, and Yuri Gladkikh), and more often than not the main sources are interviews, with the other source(s) a tribute after they died. Again, I'm not saying it is true for all cases, but more often than not in my experience, and based on your articles I mentioned earlier, former Soviet states tend to have interviews as one of the highest forms of sports coverage compared to other countries. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that content the subject says about themselves is not independent or secondary and cannot count towards GNG. You know this. JoelleJay (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed you left out Yuri Korotkikh; he was the subject of in-depth profiles before and after death. Perhaps some of the articles you noted above need to go to AfD (I haven't searched carefully to see if more in-depth coverage is available yet). In any case, high-profile Soviet-era footballers get more than Q&A interview coverage. Besides, Abdullayev is not a Soviet-era footballer, and he's certainly not a high-profile figure (he really only has three unremarkable seasons where he played regularly with middle-to-bottom of the table Azerbaijani top division clubs). If we're going to WP:IAR regarding Soviet-era sportspeople (I'm not saying we should), we would need much more of a reason to do that with a middling sportsperson from the Internet-era. Jogurney (talk) 02:46, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Source #1 is an interview wherein the small amount of non-quoted content is mostly still repeating what the subject said/felt/expected Red XN. #2 is a pure Q&A interview Red XN. #3 ditto Red XN. #4 is literally identical to #1 Red XN. #5 is a pure routine injury press release Red XN. JoelleJay (talk) 15:44, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Article fails WP:GNG; not enough independent, in depth coverage available. Jogurney (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of independent significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 10:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete clearly fails GNG. - Kevo327 (talk) 14:56, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, clearly significant coverage that passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 02:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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