Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Microsoft Azure Dev Tools for Teaching

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Whether merging is appropriate is left to post-AFD discussion. I will be moving the page to the new name though. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 20:48, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This isn't notable anymore. It should be deleted because it is part of Microsoft Azure. Mstrojny (talk) 18:52, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Is this even valid deletion rationale? Pavlor (talk) 08:28, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per WP:NOTTEMPORARY. surely using Template:Update, Template:Citation needed or a merge should have been considered before AfD. ~~Some~~Once notable always notable. Its primary purpose seems to be educational so wiping it off or hiding it in the massive Azure cloud would seem a poor decision.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Djm-leighpark, I think I probably nominated this at the wrong place at the wrong time. Should I withdraw this nomination and nominate this to WP:PM? Mstrojny (talk) 10:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My instinct or gut feeling would be a merger would to Azure would be almost akin to deletion by minimization or it would simply end up WP:UNDUE in Azure and its better left to evolve relatively harmlessly in its own article without causing interference to anybody or ending up with highly coupled touch points to Azure which I assume to be a medium to high importance article. I actually know nothing about the Imagine product but have some concept of Microsoft and Azure but I personally think tagging the merger statement for cn and possibly using the update statement if the article needs updating would probably be the route I would take. But this is my view ... and I am known to have some very weird views ... and the decision is yours. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 10:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Djm-leighpark: I will let the community decide whether to delete this or not. If the consensus is to keep this article, I would either move it to Microsoft Azure Dev Tools for Teaching or merge it into Microsoft Azure. Any thoughts? Mstrojny (talk) 18:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mstrojny:. I am concerned you may have a negative focus on the article and I have therefore taken trouble to add it to my watchlist. I believe any actions you may take such as moves may be contentious and possiby disruptive and you should seek consensus first. You are really advised to get advice at the WP:Teahouse rather than testing me. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:32, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The program just changed its name last month. It might make sense to rename it to the new program name, if there is consensus to do so, but I see no reason to delete it. Schazjmd (talk) 22:45, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's probably a good reason to either create a redirect for the new name (the product seems to keep getting re-branded) on to do a rename (leaving a redirect). The name actually seems a little clumsy at first glance (but perhaps its me). There's also a question of where it should be Microsoft Azure ... or simply Azure ... ... that sort of a bigger question than this subject and there's a couple of precedents both ways. AfD isn't the right place for that discussion, though it is sometimes where that decision may be made.Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I see this as a history article. Microsoft Imagine existed for a period of time. Keeping it means people looking for information about it will be able to find this article. What is needed is a description and Wikilink within the Imagine article, directing readers to Microsoft Azure. And perhaps the Timeline at that article could mention the fold-in of Imagine. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would not really agree with the historic. As far as I can tell the offering has been rebranded and repackaged as a Software as a Service application on Azure so is very much alive. I believe it is an application that can be provisioned on Azure, but not a core part of Azure infrastructure such as Azure files, Azure DNS, Azure DNS Private Zones or Azure Active Directory for example. Still agree with the keep which is primary AfD purpose. And a paragraph explaining the packaging to Azure would be good short term with a re-visit later. Needs a good independent review to source.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename to Microsoft Azure Dev Tools for Teaching and establish a redirect, or merge with Microsoft Azure. There is no valid rationale for deletion, and the content about the history of the software should not be diminished. Article needs expansion and updating obviously. Unoc (talk) 10:30, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.