Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of structures built on top of freeways

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The result was redirect‎ to Freeway lid. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:53, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of structures built on top of freeways

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Fails WP:LISTN; the topic does not appear to have been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources.

The article also appears to be entirely based on WP:OR, with the only sources provided being images, usually in Google Maps, that have been interpreted as structures built on top of freeways. BilledMammal (talk) 14:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 14:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Engineering and Transportation. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep—basic searches over a few minutes find various sources for these entries, several of which are cited in the appropriate linked articles already. I can only assume that I can find sources for all of them by the end of the day. Imzadi 1979 → 15:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That partially addresses the WP:V and WP:OR issue but it doesn't address the WP:N issue. BilledMammal (talk) 15:18, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The question is if the topic of structures built on top of freeways is notable, not if the individual structures are verifiably on top of freeways. I haven't checked that just yet. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I myself, on my very way to this discussion, saw a structure that was not on top of a freeway. That being said, Delete. I'm sure the technical details of building like this would be of interest to engineers and architects, but as said above, this is not a notable topic for a list. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After doing a basic check, I cannot find any coverage on structures on top of highways as a group. There are individual examples of note, but I do not see anything to justify this list. There is potentially a bit of overlap with Holdout (real estate), a notable topic. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid. I am not going to suggest a merge because some of the list items here are already listed as examples there. –Fredddie ™ 16:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I like this idea. But can you clarify why not a merge?

With respect to the WP:N issue, some of the references at Freeway lid look like they are addressing more than one example--they are talking about it more generally.

I also note that "coverage as a group" is described on Wikipedia:LISTN as an example of a justification, not as a necessary condition. Ccrrccrr (talk) 20:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As a whole, Wikipedians are very good at listing every example to any given topic but very bad at making good lists. I would much prefer having a curated list with representative examples as is the case on Freeway lid now than an ever-expanding list tagged with {{Incomplete list}}. –Fredddie ™ 00:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think I understand and agree ... just to check my understanding, you want the number of examples to stay similar to the number at the Lid article, rather than growing to be more like the List of structures. Right? If so, I agree.

I also note that the list has the problem that the criteria are unclear. Would every building above a tunnel, or for that matter every lamp post above a tunnel, qualify? Ccrrccrr (talk) 00:41, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A list for the sake of having a list of something. It is slso seriously incomplete: the example from Italy is trivial, but I've certainly eaten at similar structures in France and the UK. Athel cb (talk) 17:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See: Bridge restaurant Djflem (talk) 10:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid. This list invites examples of non-notable structures to be added. The main focus should be on the concept of the use of air rights over freeways, not the specific, often non-notable, uses of those air rights. V C 18:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid. An overview article of the concept is fine but a standalone list of examples is trivial. Dough4872 18:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Freeway lid, an topic which is supported by the list. Djflem (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge appropriate entries to Bridge restaurant. Djflem (talk) 10:09, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid, although a category could be another option. --Rs chen 7754 00:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid for now. The article has been around since 2006 so PRESERVE and CHEAP very much apply. Theoretically, this title could be resurrected as a "list of lists" but the current setup is way too broad, leading to nom's observation that the list does not exist elsewhere as such. gidonb (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Freeway lid per above. // Timothy :: talk 12:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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