Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of most-disliked YouTube videos (4th nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Discussion on a possible move can be discussed on the article talk page. (non-admin closure) Let'srun (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of most-disliked YouTube videos[edit]

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If this list isn't wildly out of date now, it eventually will be. Dislikes on Youtube cannot be reliably counted anymore. The last deletion discussion decided to keep it for so-called "historical relevance", but I don't see how historical relevance justifies having an article that just progressively worsens with no hope of fixing it unless there's a chance of YouTube returning the dislike count. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 22:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, nothing has changed since the last AFD attempt. There is sufficient coverage of this topic even if dislikes no longer exist. Esolo5002 (talk) 22:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's the problem. Nothing has changed and ever will change about Wikipedia's list, which means it's always going to be inaccurate and eventually won't be able to provide any list that is consistent with what reliable sources consider to be "the most disliked videos". ―Howard • 🌽³³ 23:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Since allegedly there is still an extension to check dislikes.

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 23:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The extension is merely a very rough estimate and will never be a reliable source. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 08:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Internet and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, since this list's topic is covered by multiple reliable sources. That said, I think a requested move discussion might be worth it. The addition of something like "(2010–2021)" would help make the title much more precise at this cost of a little concision. I hope that would address some of the nominators concerns. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I disagree that article needs to be renamed as there are still videos that get dislikes to today despite not being publicly available. Some sources to justify WP:LISTN would help. Conyo14 (talk) 04:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any RS coverage of “the most disliked YouTube videos” post-2021 would most likely be referring to the current most disliked videos in reality. If you can find sources that justify maintaining a list that only goes up to 2021, I will reverse my deletion request and instead start a move request. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 05:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep No matter how trivial this whole subject sounds, it is still notable and there can be no policy based reason to justify proposed deletion. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion request is not based on “triviality”, it is due to the fact that we cannot reliably

update the article to align with reality. If the dislike count were returned by YouTube, I would support keeping the list but certainly not now. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 05:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not being able to update the page is not a rationale for deletion. Anarchyte (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, it is. Like I said before, YouTube dislike counts are still growing, and are most definitely are overtaking some videos from 2021. But Wikipedia cannot definitely say what videos exactly are now the truly most-disliked. Ergo, "List of most-disliked YouTube videos" is a misleading title, and a list Wikipedia can no longer present. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 10:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The valid deletion rationales don't change between AfDs; there's always the same list of reasons. Please see WP:DEL-REASON, and note that "cannot be updated" is not one (another piece of reading could be WP:WIP). Anarchyte (talk) 11:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at some news sources post-2021, they’re all regurgitations of the wikipedia list, which I guess could be notable enough considering that RS coverage of wikipedia does recursively get articles on wikipedia itself. After considering the matter further, I’ll retract my request for deletion but I will push for a Moving of the article to a title similar to List of most-disliked Youtube videos up to 2021. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 11:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the last f o u r nominations. Anarchyte (talk) 11:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first three nominations are all pre-2021 and unrelated to this discussion. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 11:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Anarchyte (talk) 08:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The argument that we are obliged to update the article does not make sense because updates will eventually be provided by the users who are taking interest in the subject. Azuredivay (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article cannot be updated. It is impossible. Dislike counts are no longer viewable. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 15:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The topic of most disliked videos is covered by RS. If the concern is that it can't be updated, the scope should be refocused to the period up to 2021, you know, like the nominator said they would do. Not a reason for deleting. Neocorelight (Talk) 07:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.