Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of African American activists

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I would strongly suggest that more discussion on the talk page about exactly what this is and how it works would be a good thing. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of African American activists

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The term "activist" is so broad that it is meaningless; this list will not assist anyone in finding anything they are looking for. Lists of specific kinds of activists (e.g. LGBT rights) might be useful. Jayjg ^(talk) 15:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I too think that having seperate articles for specific activism (eg. LGBT rights) would be the ideal solution here. GN-z11 ^☎ ^★ 17:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete An unsourced, vague list of randomly selected people with no description. Trillfendi (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Too broad and hazy a criterion to be of much use. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I agree that splitting into more defined lists is worthwhile, e.g. List of African-American civil rights activists, List of African-American LGBT rights activists, etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:58, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The term "activist" is clearly not meaningless and the nomination doesn't present any evidence to support its absurd assertion. The page in question also clearly passes WP:LISTN as there are many books on the subject. Here's a good example: African-American Social Leaders and Activists. Note that it has a big picture of Martin Luther King on the cover. There's an entry for him in the list but does anyone really think that a reference is necessary? See WP:BLUESKY. Andrew D. (talk) 20:17, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Martin Luther King was not a generic "activist", he was a civil rights activist; not an environmental, or animal rights, or anti-smoking, or LGBT, or women's rights, or any of a dozen more actually useful classifications. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:29, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Our article about Martin Luther King opens by saying that "Martin Luther King Jr. (January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968) was an American Baptist minister and activist...". That's a high-traffic GA and so the plain use of the term is uncontroversial. Andrew D. (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - ... an opening that would quite obviously be improved if it were less vague; perhaps ""Martin Luther King Jr. (January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968) was an American Baptist minister and civil rights activist...", which is clearly better. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for reasons recited by Andrew D.. WP:Not paper. No compliance with WP:Before. Clearly, there are better alternatives than the Wikipedia equivalent of Capital punishment, deletion. That should only be a last resort. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete article contains no substantial content. --Ernesztina (talk) 21:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Andrew D. (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I click on links to their articles, and it calls them "activists". Perfect valid list article, although more information should be listed. List of African-American firsts, List of African-American mathematicians, List of African-American inventors and scientists, List of African-American Republicans, List of African-American writers, List of African-American astronauts, and a whole lot more articles exist showing list of African-Americans notable for various reasons. [0}] Dream Focus 12:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment For all the hand wringing over the lack of clear definition of the phrase "black activitist," this is a remarkably short list. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question. Is this a list of African Americans who are activists or activists who support African-American causes? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The first one. Dream Focus 19:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think the article can be improved, but the need for improvement does not warrant deletion. In my opinion, I think this list can be formatted into a table - listing the name of the activist and the area of activism they are known for, etc. This is a list of notable people who are known activists. The nominator hasn't provided any justifiable reason for deletion.Tamsier (talk) 10:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have added a lead and table to heading A.[1] Needs to be completed. Hope that will help the reader. Please feel free to help. If anyone has a better way of doing it please help out. Thanks.Tamsier (talk) 10:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 03:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, meets WP:LISTN, numerous books list and discuss African American activists eg. Radicalism at the Crossroads: African American women activists in the Cold War, Schoolhouse Activists: African American educators and the long Birmingham civil rights movement, No Easy Victories: African liberation and American activists over a half century, 1950-2000, Time Longer Than Rope: a century of African American activism, 1850-1950, to name just a few. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this discombobulated, random assortment. Trillfendi (talk) 17:49, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep For the same reasons at the other recent AfD of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish American activists (same proposer). Per WP:LISTN, this is a "cross-categorization list (such as "Lists of X of Y")" where both X (e.g. African Americans) and Y (e.g. Activism) are WP notable; and therefore the list is acceptable. The list does not cause harm/offense under any other WP:PAG, and all the listed people are blue-linked to other WP articles (e.g. they are notable). It is a Keep. Britishfinance (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep For the same reasons given by User:Britishfinance , User:Coolabahapple , User:Dream Focus , User:Andrew Davidson . Admittedly a work in progress, I commend the contributors thus far, this is certainly worthwhile and provides valuable reference material. Unoc (talk) 11:20, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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