Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Galen Marek (Starkiller)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. /nom withdrawn. Whether or not a merge is appropriate is an editorial question. TravellingCari 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Galen Marek (Starkiller)[edit]

Stub article about a minor Star Wars character, and you have to be familiar with Star Wars to realize that. This article belongs in Wookiepedia, not here. Delete. Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 01:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. He's the main character of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game) and the book of the same name, both part of Lucasarts's multi-media project. so, not exactly minor. Plenty of sources available on him. The article should be cleaned up and probably renamed though. --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 03:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 04:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. -- Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 04:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game) has over 100 references. The main character can also be referenced. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 14:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (video game)#Plot. The game in which he appears is highly notable; the character in it is marginal in terms of real-world content. Having scoured the internet, B&N and closely followed the video game's development -- see the video game article's history over the last year to confirm this -- I am confident that this character right now is a) not notable outside the context of the game and b) is not the subject of sufficient third-party coverage to warrant an article beyond the paragraph he has in the video game write-up. --EEMIV (talk) 22:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
keep Not a minor character, the protagonist of an important game. Accepting others' opinions that the game is very notable, its reasonable to have an article about him. Improve it from sources a we go along, but a major character in a major game is notable. when either factor changes to not-so major, then a merge is appropriate. DGG (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you or anyone else can find significant third-party sources that address the character from a real-world perspective( mostly) independent from the game, I'll change my !vote to a keep. --EEMIV (talk) 10:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I will withdraw my nomination. Since I am not much of a Star Wars fan (though I did see all 6 movies), I was unaware of the very existence of the game, and the article (the revision I nominated) made no mention of it. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 22:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It happens, thanks for eating crow when it came to that. Withdrawn arguments are often marked by striking them through, ~~like so.~~ --Kiz o r 18:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep due to significant coverage in third-party sources. Character appears in not just Force Unleashed but also SoulCalibur (both games that we can all agree are awesome to say the least!) and so only redirecting to one of them makes no sense. Articles serves as a map to the multiple works of fiction in which he appears and reveals the differences in those appearances. --63.3.1.1 (talk) 04:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, those are all sources that would help establish the game's notability, not the character's. Additionally, none of the reviews/commentary on the game or the book I've seen, or that's cited at Wikipedia, makes more than a passing reference -- with many none at all -- to the character. Can anyone find a book or game review from a reliable source that makes more than a passing reference to this character? The game might be "awesome" but still no one has provided sources to establish the character's notability outside TFU. (And the appearance in Soul Caliber is, essentially, trivia[l].) --EEMIV (talk) 10:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.