Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dina Panozzo

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The result was no consensus. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dina Panozzo[edit]

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I think she fails WP:NACTOR, my WP:BEFORE google search only really had the wiki and articles sourcing the wiki. I dont think she had significant roles in the Australian series listed. There are no sources, and can't find any Investigatory (talk) 03:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 04:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not even close to meeting notability guidelines for an actress.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:50, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. WP:NACTOR. Two main cast roles in notable TV series satisfies that one. She is also a stage actress appearing in reviewed shows such as this. 02:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duffbeerforme (talk • contribs)
Keep per Duffbeerforme. Deus et lex (talk) 20:51, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:42, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I wouldn't call her being a gym owner that's a friend of someone in a show a "main role." That aside, she played in the TV series Carla Cametti PD. Which only had six episodes and then was canceled. Whatever her role in the show was, considering it's short run it would be a massive stretch to call it a "notable TV" series. Other then those two shows, she's only had minor guest appearances. Which I don't think makes her pass WP:NACTOR. Nor does her appearing in some reviewed stage shows. Notability is not inherited and there needs to be multiple in-depth reliable sources about her, not things she might have briefly appeared in. Which seems to be all there is and in an extremely small amount on top of it. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - your comment doesn't make any sense. The article doesn't say she is a gym owner that is a friend of someone in a main show? She was a main cast actor in some TV shows as well as a stage actor. Deus et lex (talk) 20:16, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The above !vote is full of lies and misunderstandings. "Carla Cametti PD. Which only had six episodes and then was canceled." Bullshit. Carla Cametti PD was from the very start a mini series. [1] It ran it's full length. It was not cancelled. Plus notability is not determined by the length of a shows run. "I wouldn't call her being a gym owner that's a friend of someone in a show a "main role." What like Ray Donovan (gym co owner and friend of multiple someones)? Your personals judgement. "Other then those two shows, she's only had minor guest appearances." Bullshit. She was one of two co leads in Wedlocked. A third significant role in a notable TV series. She was also a regular in Richmond Hill (TV series). A fourth? [2] She was also a co lead in Black & White & Sex. A significant role in a film. The above commentary about plays betrays a fundamental misunderstanding about notability. Whats the short version of what makes something notable? Coverage in independent reliable sources. What makes a stage show notable? The same thing. So in short if a stage show gets multiple reviews it is notable. Therefore significant roles in these shows is more evidence of satisfying NACTOR which she easily passes. Other significant roles in notable productions Varda Che Bruta...Poretta (Look How Ugly She is...Poor Thing) [3] [4] (only actor, clearly a significant role. and she wrote it), The Gods of Strangers [5], Popular Front [6] [7]. For additional info one can visit the National Library of Australia and look through this. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I was basing my comment about the show being canceled on the fact that the "miniseries" was called "season 1." Which insinuated to me that maybe they were planning more. Otherwise, I know why they would make the distinction. Many mini-series' have multiple seasons and get canceled half way through their run anyway though. So your whole "it didn't get canceled because it was a mini-series" thing is obviously bullshit (your words). Second, I don't know who Ray Donovan is and I don't really give a shit (again your words) anyway, because WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a valid AfD argument. The fact is she was a gym owner who was a friend of the main character. Period. I don't think that would qualify as a "main role." If you do cool. I don't give a shit (again, your words). What makes something a "main role" is 100% based on opinion and nothing else. So, your right it's "my opinion" and I never claimed otherwise. Just like it's "your opinion" that it is one or that her roles were "significant." As far as the stage show thing goes, not everyone who is in the stage show is notable just because they were in it and the show is notable, and there's zero evidence that her role in it was "significant." Again, that's totally based on my personal opinion though and I never claimed otherwise. Your free to disagree. I could really give a fuck. This AfD likely isn't going to hinge on our opinions anyway. Which is totally a good thing. Especially when it comes to yours. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:11, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't make up quotes that people didn't write. Just like you made up facts to support your argument. Don't know who Ray Donovan is? You could try look it up. It makes a joke of your suggestion that that being a gym owner and a friend means that the role can't be main. Carla? What says "season 1". You made up the cancelled claim based on that? rolls eyes. "What makes something a "main role" is 100% based on opinion and nothing else." Bullshit. Read reviews, read summaries, read commentary and base it on that. "there's zero evidence that her role in it was "significant."" How about her role in Varda Che Bruta...Poretta then. Got any comment on Wedlocked, Richmond Hill and Black & White & Sex or are you ignoring them? "This AfD likely isn't going to hinge on our opinions anyway." What,is the closer going to ignore all of the comments made in the afd? duffbeerforme (talk) 04:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 17:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: She was in the main cast of Wedlocked, Richmond Hill, Carla Cametti PD and Bed of Roses. This passes notability standards. — Toughpigs (talk) 02:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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