Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Power

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: P. And/or to Power Pack, as editors may decide. Sandstein 20:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Power

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Despite a lot of discussion, the article contains no references to independent sources and no assertion of notability. There has been some edit-warring about whether to redirect it to the Power Pack article, so I'm listing it to achieve consensus. Slashme (talk) 14:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. I'm going to copy over my comment from the merge discussion that had been occurring (and which I hope any closer will take into account when closing this AfD): no indication that Alex Power is independently notable; neutral on the target. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - a merge discussion is in process at Talk:Power Pack#Merge discussion with Alex Power. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: P - character is notable within the fiction and meets my criteria for an entry. Too much character development has happened outside the pages of Power Pack for that article to be a suitable target. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:53, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with merging--as long as the content is kept in check a bit. As with all these articles, there is just too much unverified OR/plot summary/fictional biography/etc., what some have called "cruft". Drmies (talk) 15:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - very selectively. No real world notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Per Drmies. -- ferret (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Re-voted below after source analysis, still in support of merge -- ferret (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if sources can be found, otherwise merge - not sure why an AFD is necessary or appropriate when an ongoing merge discussion had just been started. BOZ (talk) 20:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect BOZ, if you vote keep "if sources can be found", there's an onus on you to provide those sources. -- ferret (talk) 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I see sources when I type in “Alex Power comics” so I might see if I can improve on that when I am not busy. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 21:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge No enough of significance to be remain well published. Sheldybett (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I am agreeing with @Jhenderson777: on his claim. --Rtkat3 (talk) 03:19, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here is some sources that reference the character.

Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 15:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think it’s premature to put this character as deleted or redirected. He is reprising his role as a a leader of the Future Foundation in comics and a Power Pack movie is in talks which is getting coverage. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 15:39, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Seems like an analysis of the sources provided today would be proper
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:14, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source analysis:
- https://www.cbr.com/the-abandoned-an-forsaked-alex-power-is-a-horse/
  - Passing mention of Alex, most of the article is about Power Pack in general. Supports a merge to Power Pack
- https://www.cbr.com/marvel-power-pack-louise-simonson-june-brigman/
  - Same as above, a passing mention in the context of the Power Pack.
- https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/05/15/jeremy-whitley-and-wil-robson-launch-a-new-future-foundation-comic-in-august/
  - Mentions Alex as leader of new comics for Future Foundation comic, but zero indepth coverage. Most of the quote is from a press release.
- https://www.cbr.com/power-pack-alex-power-secret-wars-future-foundation/
  - This one has more focus on Alex, but its not direct coverage or discussion of Alex, just a recap of whats been happening in recent comics.
- https://www.cbr.com/future-foundation-new-mission-and-leader/
  - Similar to the last two, mentions Alex as new leader of Future Foundation, recaps recent comics, but doesn't discuss the character in anyway.
- https://www.comicsbeat.com/new-ps4-spider-man-future-foundation-comics/
  - Another repeat of the announcement of Alex as leader of Future Foundation, single sentence from an official press announcement (Several of these sources quote this same thing)
- https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/we-almost-got-a-james-gunn-written-power-pack-comic-under-marvels-max-imprint
  - This is about a possible Power Pack movie, and only mentions Alex twice to say "he's a member" and "he was later leader of Future Foundation"
- https://movieweb.com/power-pack-marvel-movie-still-in-development/
  - This is about a possible Power Pack movie. Literally only mention of Alex is "as a member" and his age.
Continue to support Merge. No in-depth coverage has been found. We have a handful of mentions as part of official announcements, or brief mentions within broader context of Power Pack, or simply comic recaps. Also all content ultimately relates to the Power Pack. -- ferret (talk) 12:52, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You contradict yourself at the end. You say the articles are about Power Pack but you say the sources say he was the leader of Future Foundation. Also I should note he was a New Warriors member too. So redirecting to Power Pack is uncalled for. Also you are contesting the sources for brief info. WP:GNG is not always about the info but what sources can be found for the character. Coverage is still coverage. He’s obviously no Spider-Man and it’s uncalled for to put him on that pedestal. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 13:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We'll have to agree to disagree. There's zero indepth anything here. It's literally single mentions, and most of then not even whole sentences dedicated to him. -- ferret (talk) 13:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: What about the rest of Power family? Since editors seem determined to pick on this one article. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 13:25, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One AFD at a time. Let's not throw an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument in. -- ferret (talk) 13:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am well aware of that essay. I tried my best just to ask a question and not violate it. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 14:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think merging them into Power Pack would be pretty uncontroversial, considering how this AfD is going. As far as I know, they don't have much significance outside of the team. I still think Alex should be listed on the Marvel characters list due to his development in New Warriors and FF. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:04, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge there are some sources, but not sure enough for independent notability. Ypatch (talk) 22:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Selectively merge, preferably to Power Pack. There's already a section there detailing his activities outside the team. Alternatively merge to the characters list. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 02:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: P per Argento Surfer. - GretLomborg (talk) 04:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Power Pack, per Ferret's analysis of the found sources. I also think it should be fairly uncontroversial to merge the other Power Pack members to the same article without needing separate discussions for each one, based on how the consensus here is going. Rorshacma (talk) 16:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.