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You requested for deletion

Dan,

I see you requested for deletion of repemployment page. Please tell why you think it is not a good page. I think it should be there because independent sales reps are the people who earn only when they sell in form of commissions. THis is useful for people who dont have much money in their pocket. Websites such as monster.com etc doesnot have the capability to mention territories (states) that sales reps need to cover. Further, Repemployment is not a low quality site. It is meant for budget constraned businesses.

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Your input is requested

Thanks Dan - please see my comments on the CST talk page made a short while ago. Peoplemapsdavid (talk) 17:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

CodySTCruise

Just another sock of many of Codyfinke, who has a long history of odd food brand redirects. Nate • (chatter) 08:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Incredibly inconsiderate undoing of edits at Saïd Business School‎

I agree that the copyright violation is an issue, but revering my changes because you are too lazy to revert just the copyright violations is incredibly inconsiderate. Please don't do it in the future CombatWombat42 (talk) 18:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I was actually going to go back and reintroduce the changes you had made after the revert, but got called away before I had the chance to do so. Apologies. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Alice Mary Baldwin

Hello Dan, I'm not entirely sure, but I think the work is free, see the bottom of that page and also this. What do you think about it? --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

This might be helpful as well: Wikipedia:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup/Sources. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I'm no expert. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 15:55, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, the source page does release the material under CC-BY-SA, so I suppose the copyvio issue can be resolved by attributing the text on the talk page. This will bring us to the next problem, of course: the text as written is a very poor biography, and relates more to the Duke Library collection than to the woman herself. The same Duke U page does provide a complete biography of Baldwin, but it is unsourced so is inappropriate for inclusion here at Wikipedia. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:01, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the attribution. The article is not perfect, but it may be a good starting point for a reader interested in the topic. I don't think that the current state of the article is a big problem. Thanks again for your assistance. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Procolophonida

Hi WikiDan61, I noticed you tagged Procolophonida for speedy deletion. I just wondered why because when I checked Procolophonidae I could not find the information on Procolophonida in the article. The speedy deletion tag said that it had the same information as Procolophonidae which was why it was tagged for deletion. Anyway, I was going to try to add a taxobox to it. Can you delay the deletion long enough for me to add to it and make it more of its own article? Once I have I'll remove the tag. Reid,iain james (talk) 22:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, It has already been redirected. Reid,iain james (talk) 23:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Rati Tsiteladze

Hi,

Thank you for all you warnings and for giving me opportunity to improve my article. Please find below the details and evidence I found so far

All Kyokushin World Tournament 2nd IFKK World Weight Category Championships

2009 european kyokushin/shinkyokushin championship vilnius lithuania

2008 World all system kickboxing organisation - World kickboxing Championship WK1

I have pictures, Magazine articles and videos(youtube) as evidence which I can not upload here if you would like to check please allow me to send you by Email. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nino Red (talk • contribs) 20:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Pictures and YouTube videos are generally not accepted as reliable sources since anyone can make one to look like anything one wants. Published magazine articles are generally more acceptable, and you don't have to post them anywhere. You can just cite them, using the instructions at Help:Citing sources. The sources should be more specific than the sources you have provided so far, and should give the details such as the specific competition (date, place, organization) which Tsiteladze has won.

To explain my specific confusions:

• When I Google the phrase "All Kyokushin World Tournament", I get a bunch of videos, but no official links to any organization that sponsored this event, so I have to wonder about its legitimacy.
• When I search for "2009 European Kyokushin/Shinkyokushin Championship", I get this link to a forum about Kyokushin, but that lists the 2009 championship as having occurred in Kiev, not Vilnius, so again, I am left confused.
• When I search for "World All System Kickboxing Organization", I get no results at all. There is a not at the World Association of Kickboxing Organizations that that organization was founded as the World All-Style Kickboxing Organization (WASKO), but the List of WAKO Amateur World Championships does not list a World Champion tournament in 2008, nor a World Championship of any date in Egypt. There was a championship held in Belgrade in 2007 (and the photo of Tsiteladze in his article does show a belt with a 2007 date), but Tsiteladze is not listed among the champions of this tournament.

I hope you can understand my confusion about this athlete. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 21:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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More on Rati Tsiteladze

HI I have edited the article and also added more references please have a look and let me know if you still need anything in order to save my article from deletion.

I found World Championship tournament in Egypt 2008 listed by WASKO please find below link.

http://www.muaythaitv.com/events/wasko-world-kickboxing-championship-e495.html

I understand your confusion and I'm trying to find best evidence online. If the information I found is not enough please let me know if its possible to send you images and articles by Email as I have Ratis private close up pictures and newspaper articles.

Thank you very much for your time I do really appreciate your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nino Red (talk • contribs) 12:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Alloy

Hey,

I'm confused as to what this means( (→‎Brands: Remove overlinkin) (undo |) and why you deleted certain sections I am working on for the Alloy Digital page. I do not see anything wrong with those sections. Please let me know so I can fix it! Thanks Me bernstein (talk) 19:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

It means that in the section labeled "Brands", I have removed examples of overlinking. You are writing the article copy such that every time you refer to the name "Alloy Digital", you are creating it as a WikiLink ("[[Alloy Digital]]"). When you place a WikiLink in an article to that self-same article, it produces bold text rather than the normal link formatting, causing the name of the company to appear in bold every time. This is unnecessary and not in keeping with the manual of style. I have not actually deleted any sections you have written: the only significant content I deleted was the company's exact street address, as this is irrelevant information in an encyclopedia article. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

ok thank you! Me bernstein (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi WikiDan, I think I untangled everything Farhrid Kahny. The history is clean again (check it out!), and the deleted histories of the other pages are merged and deleted, and all improper redirects have been deleted. I think I got everything, but if there is anything I missed, let me know. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Market Vectors Indices

Hi Dani, I am trying to set up a page that describes the Market Vectors Indices, but you have declared it as non-notable and therefore not complying with the rules. I was told that my username is not ok, so now I've changed it to Claudio MVIS. What else can I do to avoid that you block my page? Market Vectors Indices are relatively new indices that screen Emerging Markets and Commodities and are used by financial institutions to issue products their products. Our indices are similar stuff like the Dow Jones Indexes, FTSE Indexes, MSCI and other index providers (that already have their page on wiki).

Can you please help?

Thanks Claudio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudio mvis (talk • contribs)

Claudio,

While your original username was a problem, indicating that you were editing on behalf of a company rather than on your own behalf, that was not why the article was tagged for deletion. Wikipedia is not here to promote your new market index. Rather, it is a place to write about things that have already become notable as indicated by the availability of significant coverage in reliable third party sources. I do not believe any such sources exist for this new market index. Instead, all I was able to find were the company's own website and its press releases advertising its product. When (if) the index becomes a widely-used index, then independent writers will write about it in trade journals and the like, and we will be able to look to those published articles as independent sources on which to build an article. Until then, not. That is why the article was nominated for deletion. If there are reliable sources that I was unable to find, you should mention that fact at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Market Vectors Indices, and other editors can evaluate the sources and see if they help the issue. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:44, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Dani, you can find a lot of references about market vectors indices, for example on http://finance.yahoo.com/news/market-vectors-index-solutions-announces-210000999.html or on http://www.marketwatch.com/story/market-vectors-index-solutions-licenses-global-agribusiness-and-global-solar-energy-indices-to-van-eck-2013-03-18 or also http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/02/market-vectors-index-idUSnBw025855a+100+BSW20130502.

As you know, market indices are instruments to monitor a market in a region or sector. In fact, you see all other index providers like Dow Jones, MSCI, FTSE that are also providing information on their indices. Isn't this enough? If not, then please just delete the page and my account.

Claudio, all those sources you've listed are press releases, which do not count as independent reliable sources. And you have made a mistake about how Wikipedia operates: the pages on Dow Jones, FTSE, etc, are not created by the companies themselves but rather by independent Wikipedia editors who find reliable independent sources from which to draw information. With your company, there are no such sources. And if the only reason you came to Wikipedia was to write about your own company, then perhaps a request to delete your account is not inappropriate, but I can't do that for you. You can simply stop editing; there is no real reason to delete your account. But if you truly want to purge the encyclopedia of any evidence of your visit, check out WP:VANISH for instructions on how that can be accomplished. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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I've removed all contents from the page and added the {{db-user}} tag as described in the VANISH page. Hope this is it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudio mvis (talk • contribs)

Rear Admiral Singh

How can I abandon or remove article due to Conflict of Interest? Rear Admiral (ret.) Kirpal Singh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunita Maclaren (talk • contribs) 19:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

There is no need to remove the article because of your conflict of interest. Your father appears to be a notable person with a significant naval career and post-military industrial career. The article, in its present form is fine, and has the attention of several other editors (myself included) who will work to resolve the issues. What you must not do is to continue to undo the work that I and others are doing to improve your article to bring it into line with Wikipedia standards and guidelines. The article is not your article anymore -- you have launched it into the Wikipedia world where other editors will collaborate on it. In some cases, you can blank an article (and replace the content with the template {{db-author}}) indicating that, as the sole author, you wish the article to be deleted. But you are no longer the sole author; enough other hands have been in the works that this deletion process is no longer valid. You can try to nominate the page for deletion (through the articles for deletion process, but I do not think this article would be deleted in that process. There is sufficient independent source material to create this article about this significant figure in Indian military history, so the article will likely remain, even if you don't want it to. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 20:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Seventh Day Adventist Higher Secondary School

HI WikiDan61, Thanks for your view & input given by you for editing Seventh Day Adventist Higher Secondary School. Kind Regards, Kathi Pillai — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathi23 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding deletation article of betawi persona - Miss Unique rose

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Hi, Miss Rose is legendary batavia/betawi personnage, although does not written in English but written in bahasa Indonesia (thats the reason why i'd submitted first article in Bahasa Indonesia from local news paper IS not SPAM ) Again we put in bahasa, its because the native languages where she has comes from indonesia,and her audiences might read easily too.

Regarding photos,Those photos took in Indonesia is about her and persona of originally from BETAWI , who cares of animals and nature living which now has been deforestation now in Indonesia, This is seems to be mistake if u delete it.

Wikipedia should allow people to contribute a legendary person in his own languages for example miss rose is from batavia so why should be deleted while her photos was in Indonesia?? again those articles have been deleted many times..NOT SURE WHAT type of interdiction its mistake here, while u allow some not important persona in WIKIPEDIA but u didn't allow Miss Rose articles in as our honest contribution??? ,Miss unique rose is a person who cares of humanitaire, cultural and even international artist,have right to be written ) --Murcare (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Whether or not the topic of an article relates to a non-English speaking people, the articles at the English Wikipedia must be written in English. If you feel that an article on Miss Unique Rose must be written in Bahasa Indonesia so that the people of Indonesia can more easily access it, you may write that article at the Indonesian Wikipedia.

As for Miss Unique Rose's English language article that was deleted, you claim her to be a "legendary Betawi personage", you have provided no references to prove that assertion. My own research indicates that Miss Unique Rose is a model working in Europe specializing in reproducing pin-up art of the 1920s and 1930s, who has used her moderate success to perform charitable works in her Indonesian homeland. Laudable, perhaps, but not entirely notable.

However, instead of writing an article based on the facts I have outlined above, you have instead written an article that violates Wikipedia's neutrality policy by doing nothing but praising Miss Rose for the amazing person she is. That's not what Wikipedia is here for. If you'd like to write a blog about her, there are any number of other outlets for your writing. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 11:20, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi wiki, what do u mean by this sentences?If you'd like to write a blog about her, there are any number of other outlets for your writing' , what outlet means on that article? Regarding those words i had been wrote, honestly.,i just copy words traduction of what article on newspaper had been done, u told me should write in English instead of bahasa where the originally source comes about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.189.215.171 (talk) 04:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I presume the preceding was added by Murcare (talk · contribs), having forgotten to log in. I will address my response accordingly.

What I meant when I said "there are any number of outlets available" is that there are many free web hosting services where you can create a blog to write about Miss Unique Rose and your admiration for her. But Wikipedia is not a place to write such admiring articles. It is a place to write neutral articles. As for your "traduction" (in English, we actually prefer the word "translation") of what a newspaper article had written: if you have translated the article verbatim as your Wikipedia article, this is a copyright violation and cannot be allowed to remain. And even if that were not an issue, if the newspaper article was overtly praising of Miss Unique Rose (newspapers the world over do not have a uniform aim of neutrality as Wikipedia does), then the material is inappropriate. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 11:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

AfD Kyle McMahon

Hey Dan, I tried to list a bunch of links for you on the AfD page. Just to give you the background, those of us that were working on this, first visited the Wiki Live Help Chatroom and talked to the editors in there to see if it was something we should do. They had us create a basic version, and over a few days had us keep checking in with them and had us add things / subtract things etc. Obviously we wouldn't have gone through all that trouble in the first place if it was just going to be deleted. That's why we went to the editors in Live Help first. In my opinion, a following of over 50,000, 4 recent Oprah shows, a documentary on the Golf Channel, multiple co-writes with major music industry personalities and a record deal with a major label make him notable. Please let me know what I can provide for you. Thanks for your time. FeerTheDeer (talk) 01:14, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

de-orphaning R. Couri Hay's Wikipedia Page.

Hello,

I created the Wikipedia page, R. Couri Hay. I was made aware in June that it was considered an orphan page. I read through the directions and added two links coming from other related wiki pages. I added the Lyford Cay that mentions R. Couri Hay on their Wikipedia page; I also linked R. Couri Hay's internal wiki link onto their page. I did the same thing for the Wikipedia page of Ryan Wallace (artist). Please let me know if this helps to de-orphan R. Couri Hay's Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Couri_Hay

Thank you,

Natalie — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieAnise (talk • contribs) 16:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Bernardo Kuczer

I don't really understand your last change, where you replaced the "autobiography" tag by another tag, asking for more "reliable sources". As you may have noticed, the article contains a quotation from the musicologist Harry Halbreich, which was published in a renowned French magazine of classical music. What sort of additional sources do you have in mind? Greetings, --Goliath613 (talk) 16:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and that quotation is fine to verify the opinion of one reviewer about one performance of one piece by Kuczer. However, the article contains many other facts that remain unverified, regarding both Kuczer's personal life and his professional accomplishments. His extensive list of compositions is uncited, as are the facts regarding his education and his early life, as well as recognition for his piece "Even... the loudest sky". Biographies of living people are held to a high standard at Wikipedia; biographies that are insufficiently sourced may be heavily edited to remove any and all unsourced material. I have not done that, but the article does need more sources. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad you have not done that, and I think you most probably won't do it. I'm quite sure there are dozens, if not hundreds of biographies of living people with their personal life, professional accomplishments and list of works remaining uncited. I would be interested to know if other people agree with you that the article does need more sources. --Goliath613 (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

The fact that other poor articles exist is never a valid argument to say that this article should remain in poor condition. The fact that other people agree with me that the article needs more sources is implicit in the Wikipedia policies on verifiability, especially in the case of biographies of living people. I didn't make these policies up; the entire Wikipedia community came to them by a detailed consensus process. If you don't like the policies, there are many other places where you can write about Kuczer without such restrictions. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 18:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Please don't try to show off, I'm not impressed. --Goliath613 (talk) 04:43, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Dan61

Hello WikiDan61, I have got your responses on the pages I have recently created. The page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westcoast_Stone, is currently updated fully with more references, especially about the title / award which it gave a strike to be deleted. Thank you.

-OGMDOC — Preceding unsigned comment added by OGmuthafkkinDoc (talk • contribs) 16:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Westcoast Stone has been nominated for deletion. Any comments regarding this issue should be directed to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westcoast Stone. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Daredevil Tournaments

User:EmRob07 likes to remove CSD tags. Keep an eye on it. Also, I've done Daredevil_Tournament and Daredevil Project (one of these twice now, recreation after the first G11) and AFDed Paul Archer (adventurer) - one has to wonder just how many heads this hydra has. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi everyone

I am new to Wikipedia and have found it tricky to use. Please do not hold this against me, I did not mean to offend anyone.

EmRob07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmRob07 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem, Rob. Just remember not to use Wikipedia to promote anything. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

And please do not recreate a deleted article with substantively identical text. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:06, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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R. Couri Hay

Hello, I created the Wikipedia page, R. Couri Hay. I was made aware in June that it was considered an orphan page. I read through the directions and added two links coming from other related wiki pages. I added the Lyford Cay that mentions R. Couri Hay on their Wikipedia page; I also linked R. Couri Hay's internal wiki link onto their page. I did the same thing for the Wikipedia page of Ryan Wallace (artist). Please let me know if this helps to de-orphan R. Couri Hay's Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Couri_Hay Thank you WikiDan61 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieAnise (talk • contribs) 14:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 14:21, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Men's Team Classic at the Scalp International Championships 2013

Hello WikiDan61. I am just letting you know that I deleted Men's Team Classic at the Scalp International Championships 2013, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. GedUK  20:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Software Developer's Journal

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Global Web Mount Article.

Hello User:WikiDan61, I have removed the deletion notice from this article, as this is sufficient to be contributed and added to Wikipedia. If you want to raise please raise in AFD. And I was not aware that I cannot delete the notice, so for that I am sorry.

Regards

User:Daviddavidusa1 —Preceding undated comment added 16:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikidan61! What do you mean by Sock Puppetry.

I have always understand you and your decisions, but this time what do you mean my that i am having multiple account, so please be cautious before writing to anyone. I am Ron Gates and use and have only 1 account named Ron Gates.

Regards

Ron Gates —Preceding undated comment added 15:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

We'll let the admins at SPI decide that. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

What w Whales

Sorry. I did not know how to nominate an article for speedy deletion. Publicjustice (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You appear to have embarked on a career of recent changes patrolling at Wikipedia. If you are going to do so, you must learn how to use the tools at your disposal. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 20:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so could you please tell me how to nominate a page for speedy deletion? Thanks a lot.Publicjustice (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

There are a couple of ways to do this. The most straightforward is to edit the page, and place the appropriate speedy deletion template. For a list of the templates, see Speedy deletion templates. There is a template corresponding to each of the valid speedy deletion criteria listed at WP:CSD. After you have placed the template, there will be a part of the template that tells you how to notify the author that you have tagged the page. Copy that information and insert it onto the author's user talk page.

The easier way to do this, if you have the proper permissions, is to install the Twinkle or Huggle tool, which will then provide you with extra tabs along the top of any page (in addition to the "edit, history, ..." tabs) that will allow you to automatically tag the file with the appropriate speedy deletion templates. But before you use these tools, be sure you have thoroughly familiarized yourself with the speedy deletion criteria. Improperly marking a page and warning users can be a real problem. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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We do not require a username change because X Blake Freeman X is a joint member in our publishing company.

(He owns a percentage and is a share holder, the article is not for promotional use it is purely to output information on X Blake Freeman X that is frequently asked about, there are many, many more musicians who are below his popularity levels yet still have unedited Wikipedia pages. The only difference is, one simple Facebook search proves that he has a fan base.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakley Publications (talk • contribs)

You do require a name change, because your user name is the name of a company or organization, which violates WP:ORGNAME. User accounts are supposed to be used by a single person, not by any member of a corporation who needs to edit at the moment. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 20:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for completely ignoring the second statement in my argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakley Publications (talk • contribs) 20:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I did not ignore anything. You claim that you do not need to change usernames because X Blake Freeman X is a member of your publishing company, and that Freeman deserves a Wikipedia page. That second point is irrelevant, and not the point of this discussion. You need to change user names because Wikipedia does not allow usernames that are the names of a company rather than an individual. (Please read and understand WP:ORGNAME.) WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 20:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey there! Thanks so much for the feedback. I am having some trouble formatting the citations. I will go through your recommendations now though. Grainneaine (talk) 08:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Zambranaing

Sorry for not leaving a comment. However, what's the deal with requesting my page for deletion? Enorris83 (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The deal is that, when we make up new words that we think are cool, we don't get to use Wikipedia to spread the news. Whether you made up the word or not, it is a neologism that has no evidence of widespread use. If you disagree, you are free to weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zambranaing. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Zambranaing

Dan - Understood. I just updated the page with proof that it's taking place in Portugal and in different states across the country. Can we please agree to leave the page as is and I will continue to update. Considering all of the negative things on Wiki it would be nice to see it used for something positive. Please advise. Enorris83 (talk) 16:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

What you've done is uploaded a bunch of pictures (probably in violation of Wikipedia's copyright guidelines) that show that people like to have their pictures taken while cycling. You have not demonstrated that the term Zambranaing has come into widespread usage to describe this activity. Again, if you have anything further to say on the matter, refer to the AFD page. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:42, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Joanne Wheatley

[1] Info on books — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knights365 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

[2] tv appearence

[3] bbc tv interview

[4] magazine column — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knights365 (talk • contribs) 15:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

What you're failing to grasp here is that all of Wheatley's notability arises from her winning the Bake Off show, which means this falls in to the category of a person notable for a single event, in which case the recommendation is to merely mention the person in the article about the event. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:11, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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dj also is me im person and living in iran why you delete my article ?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sobhan.alizadeh (talk • contribs) 19:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I didn't delete your article. I nominated your article for speedy deletion, because it makes no claim that you are a notable musician. All topics included at Wikipedia need to meet the criteria for inclusion, which generally means that the topic has been written about in a significant manner in reliable sources. You appear to be a DJ who has started experimenting by remixing other artists' songs, and that's a great place to start, but it hardly makes you notable yet. Further, you should understand that writing an article about yourself at Wikipedia is strongly discouraged. As a final note, I have noted that your ability to communicate in English is rudimentary at best. You might be more comfortable contributing to the Persian Wikipedia instead. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Imperial Tea Court

Dan, I appreciate your suggestions and will spend more time with the tutorials learning how to generate new articles within Wikipedia guidelines. It's more complicated than I assumed when I started this article. As one of the writers and educators in the tea industry, I thought it would be helpful to generate more articles about the most important people and businesses in the industry rather than have the topics populated by the largest companies who can afford to hire PR firms to promote them.

Please delete the current page and, after studying the tutorials more thoroughly, I will start again later. Babette Donaldson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CC48:2FE0:853D:6F5A:C7A9:D381 (talk) 16:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I am not an administrator, and cannot delete the page. If you would like to have it deleted, replace all of the content except for the "articles for deletion" notice with the {{db-author}} template. Then make a comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imperial Tea Court indicating that you would like to have the article deleted. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Derrick Strickland

Hi WikiDan! In regards to Derrick Strickland - Entertainment Industry Professional - and his credits: he is credited on the magazine pages themselves at the top of each article. In the Luxe Magazine, his credit is on the side of the page. Also, his co-producer credit at IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834365/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

He did significant work in the 90's in tv and print (I used to represent him) and I still get calls regularly about his whereabouts. Now that he has moved into production I truly believe that he deserves inclusion in wikipedia. He is, and never has been a self-promoter which is why there may not be an enormous amount about him online. Thank you so much for your time and care dedicated to fishing this out.

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Derrick Strickland

Hi WikiDan! In regards to Derrick Strickland - Entertainment Industry Professional - and his credits: he is credited on the magazine pages themselves at the top of each article. In the Luxe Magazine, his credit is on the side of the page. Also, his co-producer credit at IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0834365/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

He did significant work in the 90's in tv and print (I used to represent him) and I still get calls regularly about his whereabouts. Now that he has moved into production I truly believe that he deserves inclusion in wikipedia. He is, and never has been a self-promoter which is why there may not be an enormous amount about him online. Thank you so much for your time and care dedicated to fishing this out.

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Tancredi AfD

Hi Dan, this may be of interest to you. De728631 (talk) 23:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival

Hi! I created an article in English and then in Geman, but the last one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Gurkos_Kurzfilmfestival) was saved under the English site. This may be the problem as you wrote me "Perhaps you intended to create this at de:Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival instead? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)"

What should I do? As I still have Spanish and French versions of the same article?

Thank you!

Elgermes Elgermes (talk) 14:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

If you click on the link I provided you (de:Los Gurkos Kurzfilmfestival), it will bring you to the proper German Wikipedia page. On that page, you will find a link titled Verfasse einen Artikel zum Thema (Create an article on this topic). Click on that link to create the article on the German Wikipedia. For the French and Spanish articles, start at the French Wikipedia homepage or the Spanish Wikipedia homepage respectively, and create the new articles as you would do at the English Wikipedia. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 14:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I would like to delete this article "https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Gurkos_Short_Film_Festival" in order only to keep this one "https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Gurkos_Kurzfilmfestival". he first one triggered the problem you found. How can I do this?

Thanks Elgermes Elgermes (talk) 16:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid I've given you all the help I can with the German Wikipedia. I don't speak sufficient German to navigate the user interface there to figure out how to request an article deletion. Since you do speak German (presumably, since you wrote an article in the language), you should be able to request the required help there to figure out your issue. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I will, thank you! Elgermes (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Your The Perfect Gentlemen edit

Dear wikiDan61,

I am responding to your notice to me about posting an article on The Perfect Gentlemen. Thank you for sending the links for the reasons that you tried to revert back to forwarding the article to Perfect Gentlemen. I wish you had done that prior to just editing it back with the comment that we did note , as I was unaware of the guidelines which you provided. Otherwise I would have allowed for your edit reverting back to take place. As someone new to the page, I was unaware of the guidelines regarding musical groups. However, I would disagree that we are not notable enough to warrant an article.

Winning the National Harmony Sweepstakes competition in 2002 would warrant inclusion (based on #9 of criteria for musicians and ensembles). The National Harmony Sweepstakes competition is now in its 30th year. In addition, we have received plenty of coverage in national press and on television for international performance tours (#4 of criteria for musicians and ensembles).

Yes, we are not a household name, but we have been working in the fine arts market for more than 6 years and it is important that there is a distinction between a defunct R&B group and what we have been doing for almost 15 years.

I am happy to have you again put in an edit if you wish to revert the article back to a forward to "perfect gentlemen", as I should not be the one to write this article. However, in the future, should someone else place one, it would be appreciated if what we have been doing for the last 15 years would not be dismissed as not notable. On the contrary, there are very few groups who have done what we have done in the genre of what we do. We are not asking for accolades, just a citation.

Thank you.

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This is what is known at Wikipedia as the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle. You boldly edited a page. I reverted your edit. Now we're discussing. Right according to plan.

So, about your group: you claim to pass criterion #9 of WP:BAND (has won or placed in a major music competition). I would argue that the National Harmony Sweepstakes would not be included in the category of "major music competitions". Lacking its own Wikipedia article is one sign that this might be the case. A failure to find any independent coverage of this festival is another sign. (All the coverage I can find is from groups that have been part of the competition, which means that it might be notable among its participants, but not to the general public.) You also claim to have received "plenty of national coverage". The name of your group is rather generic and makes for very difficult searching, so I am unable to verify that claim. If you can provide some actual concrete citations to this national coverage, that would greatly help. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:52, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Dan,

really appreciate the feedback and will do as you suggest.

Best,

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Apologies, I am disengaging for now. The other editor changed info in a way that makes it look like existing sources support it, which I consider to be vandalism. I had attempted to engage the other user in my editing comments and at Talk:Ali, to which they did not respond. I strongly encourage you and other editors to look at PJDF2367's edits as they appear to not understand NPOV nor reliable sources. Edward321 (talk) 14:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, as far as I can see, PJDF was only changing images and captions, which, while sourced, are hardly the authoritative content of the article. And I don't see any evidence of your edit comments making any attempt to engage meaningfully with PJDF regarding your reasons for reverting. You first revert gave no reason whatsoever, and subsequent reverts (here and here and here) gave either perfunctory comments (rv removal of sourced material) or no information at all, while not at all addressing PJDF's concerns that the image was improper and the association with Alawites wrong. I have no opinion on the facts of the dispute (I know little to nothing about Islam and its variants), but I do know that you did not properly attempt to communicate with this user in this exchange. If you have found the user problematic in other discussions, that should also be addressed in a proper discussion, but mutliple vaguely described reverts does not quite make the mark. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Mind Blown (feat. Timbaland & Adrian Visby)

Dear WikiDan61, could you put another notice on top of the article instead the Speedy Delation. Please, this single will be released next Tuesday. Could you help me and put a notice that the article will be deleted in the next 4 days or so and not the speedy. Please spare me the chance. (GowanusBeats (talk) 12:17, 19 September 2013 (UTC))

I have placed the tag I have placed. If you contest the deletion, note this on the article's talk page. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 12:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for reverting the vandal on my user page. Edward321 (talk) 12:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Galliane

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I have just posted on the Talk page of Galliane Frog and would like to reiterate my comments here. The purpose of the article is not promotional but informational. Galliane is a very important invention taking shape in the world of modern bow making for which the Wikipedia entry should serve as an initial point of reference. The bow maker, Benoit Rolland, has had no part in the authorship of this article. The article provides a definition of what a frog is, identifies Galliane's relativity to the history of bow making, and provides an overview of its technical and musical elements. I have also provided additional references and external links, which seek to support the information presented in this article. My interests are not commercial and should not be flagged as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arveilchristine (talk • contribs) 15:59, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Misapplication of BLPPROD

I just undid a WP:BLPPROD that you did - you seemed to be making the same mistake that I was making until recently, and that is applying the BLPPROD to an article that has a non-WP:RS reference (Jerry Langton). It's a kind of counter-intuitive aspect of these prods; you're only allowed to place them if there are no references, although once properly placed, they can only be removed with an RS. It's an understandable error, and one that destroys no articles that don't deserve it, but it's still not quite proper. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:41, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Kewl userbox

Hello, WikiDan61 … thnx fer drawing my attention to the Google userbox, which I have added to my parent user's page.

I fergot to mention … please consider adding a {{Old prod full}} when you {{PRODBLP}} an article … I usually add one when I add a {{Prod-2}}. :-)

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My edit of "Length Contraction"

Hi, WikiDan61, You said, "Since the theory of relativity tells us that all measurements are relative to the reference frame of the measurer (the observer), the concept of actual physical dimension change is meaningless in this discussion."

I've studied the debate on length contraction for some 18 years now, i.e., whether it is only an observer dependent phenomenon (lengths varying with relative velocity of all possible observers) or whether it refers to a physical change in lengths of physical objects. When a reader searches "length contraction" and finds the Wiki version, the text *assumes* that the length of objects is determined by the relative velocity of observational frames, ignoring the above debate in favor of the special relativity version... that length is determined by observation... that there is no physical world independent of observation... that idealism ( an observer dependent "world") trumps realism (objects with intrinsic properties independent of observation) because that is mainstream relativity (and no criticism of that is "allowed." Therefore I hope you will reconsider censoring out my edit which recognizes that debate. Thanks. (LCcritic (talk) 19:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC))

I'm not sure I understand the nature of the debate to which you're referring. Is it your position that an object, as it moves faster and faster, actually becomes physically foreshortened? And if that is the case, one must ask, faster relative to what? If I, as an astronaut in a spaceship, leave earth and accelerate to a velocity of 0.8c (relative to the earth's inertial frame), and then cease accelerating, am I moving at 0.8c relative to earth, or is the earth moving at 0.8c relative to me? And if I am the stationary object, does my length change? Or if I am the moving object, does then my length change? The theory of relativity tells me that the inertial frame which I choose defines the situation (i.e. things are relative to their inertial frame). I, as the astronaut, am not moving relative to myself, so I cannot observe a change in length. But an observer on earth, using that inertial frame, sees me as a length-contracted object due to my velocity relative to him. If you can explain to me your side of this debate, I'd be glad to hear it, but unless it is couched in actual science (and not pseudo-science or misunderstood science) I suspect it will find no place in Wikipedia. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 13:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

PS: Actually, the length contraction article already contains a section (Length contraction#Reality of length contraction) that addresses the "real vs. apparent" contraction question. I'm not sure anything more needs to be said on the subject. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 13:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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Subjective vs objective length contraction

WikiDan61, The length contraction debate is about actual vs apparent contraction. One side (mainstream special relativity) insists that physical objects actually contract as theoretically seen/measured to contract from relativistically moving frames. The other side says that it is only an an apparent contraction, totally observer dependent (the long-standing criticism denied by mainstream relativity theorists.) Length contraction language always says something like "for observer A" (moving relative to the object) an object is so long, (contracted in proportion to relative velocity) while "for observer B" at rest with (in same frame as) the object, it is so much longer, called its "proper length."

So if a (future, theoretical) spaceship is approaching Earth at say 86.6% of light speed, Earth will appear to have a measured contracted diameter (in the direction of the approach) of about 4000 miles. But as the ship slows down and enters Earth's orbit, that diameter will then be measured to be its "proper length" of just under 8000 miles. Of course, Earth's diameter did not change, so the mainstream claim of "actual, physical contraction" is clearly false.

Conversely, lets say the ship, on approach is measured from Earth as 10 meters long (contracted.)Then, after coming to rest in Earth's orbit, it is measured to be 20 meters long. It did not actually expand as it entered Earth's frame. It was always 20 meters long and only *appeared* contracted to half that intrinsic (as built) length because of the change in frames of reference... same as Earth was always about 8000 miles in diameter, not "actually, physically" contracted to 4000 miles.

Relativity insists that all frames of reference are equally valid, and that "length is not invariant" (it varies with frame of reference) so that would mean that physical objects change in length with every possible relativistic frame from which they can be measured. This is a false claim of special relativity.

Neither the FAQ section or the text on the "reality of length contraction" addresses this subjective vs objective debate. Please reconsider your decision. Thanks. 63.155.175.125 (talk) 18:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm no expert in relativistic physics, but my research indicates that the concept you are discussing falls into the realm of fringe theories. I would suggest that you open a discussion on the article's talk page, or perhaps on WT:WikiProject Physics, or WT:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces/Relativity. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 20:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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DVdm's removal of my "talk" comments on length contraction

Hi WikiDan61, I am sorry to see that DVdm considers me an anti-relativity crank. I am not. I accept the constant speed of light through space (and GR's predictive power over Newtonian gravity theory.)

The essence of my criticism addresses the debate about whether or not length contraction describes physical "shrinkage" of objects (or the distances between them) or merely the subjective "point of view" differences in how different frames of reference might observe and measure lengths.

Here are three examples of this issue from Wiki texts with my comments inserted: (Regarding the Bell Paradox): "For instance, Bell argued that the length contraction of objects as well as the lack of length contraction between objects in frame S can be explained using Relativistic electromagnetism. The distorted electromagnetic intermolecular fields cause moving objects to contract, or to become stressed if hindered from doing so. In contrast, no such forces act on the space between objects."

Yet the supposed contraction of Earth's diameter in my example to you is clearly not a compacting of Earths atoms or molecules to result in a physical contraction to 4000 miles, as *observed* by the ship (approaching at 86.6% of light speed.) And certainly the distances between bodies in space does not contract "as measured by" relativistic frames traveling through space.

(Regarding the Ehrenfest paradox): "Another famous paradox is the Ehrenfest paradox, which proves that the concept of rigid bodies is not compatible with relativity, and reduces the applicability of Born rigidity."

This claims that there is no such thing as rigid bodies in relativity... that, using my Earth example again, the length of Earth's diameter varies with relativistic frames measuring it. Yet Earth's diameter does not change with every possible velocity and direction of frames theoretically measuring it.

(Regarding the "real or not" argument): "See for example Physics FAQ: "People sometimes argue over whether the Lorentz-Fitzgerald contraction is "real" or not... here's a short answer: the contraction can be measured, but the measurement is frame dependent. Whether that makes it "real" or not has more to do with your choice of words than the physics."

This claims that objects do not have intrinsic lengths as formed (or built, in the case of my spaceship example.) The "varying length" of Earth's diameter (as above) is definitely not "real" just because measurements of it taken from relativistic frames would differ. It is not just a semantic "choice of words" issue.

Please convey this message to DVdm and reconsider the judgement that I am a crank. I am sorry that my 18 years of relativity study and choice of usernames makes me a suspected crackpot. I am an SR critic, and good science thrives on criticism... usually. (I have in fact taught university "Philosophy of Science.") Thanks again for reconsidering. LCcritic LCcritic (talk) 19:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

You are free to interact with DVdm at your leisure. You are also free, should you desire, to reintroduce the material at Talk:Length contraction, although I would preface the material in such a way as to indicate you feel the article needs to be updated to address the concept, rather than a casual chat about the concept itself. In any case, I feel no need (nor any particular desire) to act as intermediary. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:34, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

no access to message DVdm

Hi again WikiDan61 After trying again to "disambiguate" the "physical" part of length contraction, DVdm again deleted my last attempt. I went to his page to message him directly as you advised, but found no way on the page to send a message. (I am quite lame at such navigation.) Please convey the following message to him and, if you will, tell me how to message him directly. Thanks.

To DVdm: In an attempt to “disambiguate” the “Physical?" (talk) length contraction issue by Martin Hogbin and the reply by DH: “:Thanks. The term "physical" (which was used in the article for years) can lead to misunderstandings, since in relativity it's only a geometric effect. --D.H (talk) 1”...

I pointed out the Bell and Harvey piece “explaining” physical contraction as ‘”electromagnetic forces pulling atoms closer together" (physical contraction, not “only a geometric effect” as above.) I also pointed to the “Erenfest” piece claiming to “prove” that “that the concept of rigid bodies is not compatible with relativity.” (Argument for physical contraction.)

You said: ‘”Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Article talk page is for discussing the article, not the subject.”

I have noted your personal opinion that I am an anti-relativity crank. But my intent is to clarify Wiki’s coverage of length contraction as to wheter or not it is a physical or just an observer (frame of reference) related phenomenon.

Please reply. LCcritic (talk) 17:47, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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Kilroy's on Kirkwood

I don't especially care about my editing privileges. I'm more concerned with the fact that even after my page ONLY consisted of a comprehensive history of the bar, it was still deleted. We've been written about in magazines, newspapers, national polls, etc. and are a staple to the Bloomington economy and a favorite among Indiana University students and alumni. What exactly is necessary to have a Wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilroysnicole (talk • contribs) 15:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

If the coverage in those national media is significant (i.e. not just a directory listing, but an actual profile (like a full page or multi-page article)), then write an article citing those sources as evidence of significant coverage. But do not write an article merely to promote your business. Given your somewhat obvious conflict of interest, you may not be the best person to write this article, but if you insist, then my best recommendation to you would be to create an article in your user space (for example, at User:Kilroysnicole/Kilroy's on Kirkwood). Once you have an article you think is OK, get someone else to review it for you. You could ask me, or any other editor, or you could submit it to the articles for creation process. This way, you will be showing yourself more willing to abide by the Wikipedia policies and guidelines. While drafting the new article, you might want to check out "Your First Article", a Wikipedia guideline on how to write good articles. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Microfiltration

Hello WikiDan,

Thank You for your post,

• The major editing is for a Group Assignment as part of a University Project, (I did put something on the Talk page, regarding education assignment) but I apologize if anything in the course of this editing page, I have stepped on somebody else toes (that was not my intention)
• You guys are making Wikipedia very hard to edit for the common person, I understand you have Copyright Protection Policies and you need to protect Wikipedia from malicious behavior so it is fair enough, but there needs to be better communication channels so it is clear that this the revamp of this page is for educational assessment purposes only, not intended to infringe any copyright (which I don't see would be any issue since the diagrams were created by my group members, not taken directly from any sources at all). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DryMartini99 (talk • contribs)

I figured there was a university project involved when I saw three separate major articles on chemical engineering processes appear in a single day. I can't say that the editing you've done hasn't improved the page (there really wasn't all that much there before), but your article still needs improvement, in terms of grammar, style (less words is always better than more words) and organization. I'll keep an eye on it and see if I can help improve it.

As for your copyright difficulties, these appear to stem from the fact that you haven't tagged your files correctly when uploading them. Uploading files is one of the most complicated features at Wikipedia, and keep clear of the copyright issues is very important. If you are trying to upload an image that you yourself have created, then you simply need to tag the image with a template that indicates that you are releasing it to the public domain. Any of the templates in Category:GFDL copyright templates should work fine; just pick the one that best suits your needs. Do not post an image with the phrase "all rights reserves"; Wikipedia doesn't work this way. All text and images submitted to Wikipedia are to be public domain (i.e. freely usable by anyone). If you don't wish to release your image this way, then don't bother uploading it.

Good luck with your class. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 11:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Banc De Binary

Thanks for the edit, but you have said that Banc de Binary is a bank, it isn't one, it's a binary trading house which called itself banc de binary to add respectability, but now has been charged with various fraud offenses by US regulators. In Cyprus only real banks can use this word, but somehow this slips under the radar when they managed to register with Cysec, the authorities there. I wanted to point out this anomaly on the page as it needs to be made clear that only they call themselves a bank. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistorianofRecenttimes (talk • contribs) 16:15, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Um, whatever. The point is that your editing on the page was highly non-neutral, and based on your own interpretations of the given sources. Whether or not they are actually a bank is highly irrelevant to that particular discussion. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 16:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Akhil Ravindra Kumar - delete completely with title

help me delete the article completely with title as it is not meeting your requirements, when you delete a article delete it completely with the TITLE OF ARTICLE. Read request carefully I putting the request of removing title as well for the 2nd time.

if you can delete content alone not the title of article, please provide me the explanation for same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akhil Ravindra Kumar (talk • contribs) 14:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary

I copyedited New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary. I think the article is more neutral now. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 16:51, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello there, Dan and Eastmain. I noticed Prathan's complaints over at the xLinkBot talkpage (which reverted one of his googleplus links). I also notice that he has applied for his first RfA, he must have a lot of wikithusiasm.  :-)     His personal talkpage was filled with template-spam, which I have now collapsed to try and start a conversation with him, give him the skinny on WP:COI an WP:TONE and WP:SPIP and so on. The next time he shows up, can you please send him to my talkpage, or to his own talkpage, so I can try and bring him up to speed on the ways of the wikiverse? Thanks. Also, thanks for improving wikipedia, even if beginning editors sometimes think that WP:OWN means the opposite of what it says. Maybe we should change the link to be WP:OnceYouClickSubmitYouNoLongerOwnThisStuffAreYouSureYouWanna. It looks like Prathan did find his way to the WP:TEAHOUSE at some point, which is good; if I'm not around, they can maybe answer his questions. Ping my talkpage if I can help, or if I don't respond promptly. See you around. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 21:07, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Grace Quackenbos

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Deletion of RepEmployment page

Dan, I see you requested for deletion of repemployment page. Please tell why you think it is not a good page. I think it should be there because independent sales reps are the people who earn only when they sell in form of commissions. THis is useful for people who dont have much money in their pocket. Websites such as monster.com etc doesnot have the capability to mention territories (states) that sales reps need to cover. Further, Repemployment is not a low quality site. It is meant for budget constraned businesses. (````) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreajoseph86 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm not saying that the company doesn't provide a fine and necessary service. Just that the company is not notable, according to Wikipedia standards. Many companies provide fine and necessary services, but Wikipedia is not a business directory in which every company should have a listing. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 14:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Then why do you allow companies like this- Fortron Source Power Group on wikipedia. I can tell large number of similar companies. But still you people allow it. What notability you want? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreajoseph86 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Two points:

1. The existence of other poor articles on Wikipedia is not a valid argument for the retention of this poor article.
2. Nothing said here will matter -- if you want to make your voice heard, post at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Repemployment. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 14:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Bonnie Pestano

Sorry, this (Bonnie Pestano) is not a real person, the page was made as an inside joke. I will not protest, just wanted to let you know this what not an intentional attack on anyone.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Latham187 (talk • contribs)

An inside joke wherein you accuse a well known personality of being transgendered, when there is no indication that this is true, is an attack, whether you intended it as such or not. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 17:06, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Blue Angels

WikiDan61. In reference to the erasing of my children's book about the Blue Angels, I would be happy to send you a copy. While designed for children, it contains easy to understand explanations regarding G-force, speed, flight, and fully explains the roles and duties of the entire Blue Angels organization. It was developed over a two year period with full cooperation of the Blue Angels, including a full flight routine in the #7 jet, and interviews at NAS Pensacola. I would disagree with your dismissal of its relevancy and would request its inclusion.

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markiainsutherland (talk • contribs) 01:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

While all that may be true, it is unlikely that the book contains material that would expand on the material already in the Wikipedia article, and your placing of the book link in that article, since it is your book, can really only be seen as link spam. Since you have an obvious conflict of interest with this topic, it would be best, if you really think your book can give insight at an encyclopedic level that is not already in the article, for you to request the addition of your book on the article talk page. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 02:30, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Hyrel 3D

WikiDan61, thanks for your note. I've now got 20 references, four of which are to the Hyrel 3D site and four to YouTube, the rest are independent sources. Can I remove the Primary Sources note? Page:Hyrel 3D

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HyDavo (talk • contribs) 17:05, 29 October 2013 (UTC) HyDavo (talk) 17:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done Note the conflict of interest notice left on your user talk page. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 17:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Your suggested deletion: Henry Norris (engineer)

Thanks for your robust input. I've taken your comments on board and have added supporting text from the offline newspaper sources which I think raise the profile appropriately and more clearly indicate the status of this engineer in lighthouse construction. Unfortunately the "Lighthouse management" online source is a mid 19th century British government commission report, so in parts is little more than name and number lists but is the definitive reference document at that point and is based on the archives and responses of Trinity House (the government agency responsible for all lighthouses and navigation aids then & now). Have added these points to the talk page for the article. Am on the learning curve here as a newbie so do genuinely appreciate the guidance.

Hatofthecat (talk) 12:34, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I still question the notability of a somewhat minor functionary in the grand scheme of things. If an entire article had been written about him, that would be something, but a mere mention in passing that he was involved in a project is somewhat meaningless. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 12:40, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi I am not sure how to fix the issues you have with my Vin Cipolla article, please advise... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterscd (talk • contribs) 14:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Vin Cipolla speedy deletion notice

In fixing the article in question, would edits deleting adjectives be enough to remove this speedy deletion notice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterscd (talk • contribs) 15:00, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

No, not really. The entire article reads like a press release for the guy, rather than like an encyclopedia article. There seems to be sufficient coverage for an unbiased article, but the article that you've written would need to be completely redone from the ground up. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

SOrry... I left you a few messages without signing in.... just wondered if I deleted adjectives in Vin Cipolla's article would that be enough to keep this article on view?

Letterscd (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I actually modeled the article on one about Arthur Tauck...can you tell me why his is fine, and mine is not?Letterscd (talk) 15:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

The Arthur C. Tauck, Jr. article is not nearly as promotional as the one you have created about Cipolla. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 15:34, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

I have reworked Vin Cipolla. Please review. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 17:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Vin Cipolla edits

Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it! Wow.... you are wonderful to do this!Letterscd (talk) 18:19, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 18:23, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Artificial urinary sphincter

Dear Sir,

Thanks for having corrected our article in Wikipedia about the Artificial Urinary Sphincter. I just wanted to let you know about the product of Constructor from Silimed. It is not a Artificial Urinary Sphincter but it is an internal clamp. What is a difference between a clamp and an Artificial Urinary Sphincter ?

An Artificial Urinary Sphincter you control the Sphincter, like a normal one. I mean you open it when you need it to urinate and it close automatically. Doing this way you do not damage the bladder. Please look at the following video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu5NWINOkI

An internal clamp, it is alway close you never open the urethra. To urinate you force your bladder to increase the pressure it order to pass the internal clamp cuff. After few months your bladder is fully destroy. This Silimed clamp is never used in developed country. Please ask a urologist if you are from Europe or US. The Silimed Cuff is connected with a tube which is as well connect with an injection port. This injection port is made to increase the pressure around the urethra until you find continence. But you never release the pressure to urinate.

Do not hesitate to come back to me if you have more questions.

--Hernan montez (talk) 18:48, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

The difference you define appears to be largely semantic. I included the SlimMed device based on its inclusion in the Advances in Urology article. You are free to edit the article to clarify the points, so long as you can do so in a neutral manner (relying only on reliable sources to assert any particular advantage or disadvantage of one device over another). WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 18:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

DIONNA DAL MONTE

Dear Dan61,

There is no proofs in internet Marzio Dal Monte, Dionna's hausband, is a white suprematist and a director of nazi party forza nuova. It's written NOWHERE in internet. Marzio's lawyer Germana Giorndano, 354 Park Avenue NYC, is ready to sue whoever tells that Marzio Dal Monte is a white suprematist. There are no proofs also about the 30 deleted shows for Dionna: no page in internet, no tour pages deleted, nothing. ANTIFASCISTI is a username that wouldn't be permitted to write on wikipedia because clearly is by part. As his name suggest. The only claim I have: u have to proof what u says on wikipedia, and he has no proofes.

Marzio Dal MOnte — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.247.181.240 (talk) 19:34, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Immaterial. The entire article makes no credible assertions that this musician is notable, so the entire thing is up for deletion. Should the article be retained, we can address its factual correctness. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:41, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Vin Cipolla article

HI... I am sorry to bother you but another Wiki editor deleted the Vin Cipolla article... how do I get this reinstated? I thought your assitance was wonderful and made it a gret article... please advise...Letterscd (talk) 02:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

You can ask the deleting administrator (JamesBWatson (talk · contribs) in this case) to review his decision. If that doesn't work, you can ask for help at WP:Deletion review. Finally, if none of that proves useful, you can ask one of the administrators listed at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles to provide you with a copy of the article by email, which you will then be able to rework and resubmit. I would offer my help in this matter, because I think Cipolla is a significant figure meriting a Wikipedia article, but I don't have the time to help work on it at the moment. Good luck! WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 13:28, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Vin Cipolla

Thank you again for your help and advice.. I have written to the Wiki editor who deleted the article and have not heard back from him. I will keep trying.... thank you again! Letterscd (talk) 13:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I have restored the article. On looking back at it, I think I allowed the original version of the article, which was highly promotional, to influence my impression too much. The version that I deleted was very much improved. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:35, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hermenegildo Seisdedos

I have just begun with Hermenegildo Seisdedos article, I´m working on it...please be patient, thank you...--Brunetillo (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Not to worry. The BLP PROD process allows you 10 days to bring the article up to snuff before it is deleted. If reliable sources are added, the proposed deletion will be removed. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 17:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Trent Swords

I have added a better source. Your best bet would be proceeding with a straight-forward WP:PROD or asking for assistance at WP:RUGBY. GiantSnowman 19:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

The article you edited was about a professional rugby player. You found a source about an alumnus of the Augustana College football program who now coaches high school football and track. It's not even clear that the two are the same person. I've taken the matter to AFD. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 19:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Music of Nigeria

My article music of Nigeria was undone i want to know the reason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.206.11.14 (talk) 13:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I presume you are talking about the complete rewrite of the Music of Nigeria article done by Easycheddah (talk · contribs)? In that case, that edit was reverted because it took a well-written, well-sourced article about the music of Nigeria, and turned it into a poorly written article whose only links were to a particular blogspot site. That was not an improvement, and it was reverted so that the better, preexisting version. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 14:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Constitution Party of West Virginia

The information was posted at the request of the Constitutional Party in WV. I will repost of their request. The must see my posts in order to authenticate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmillc (talk • contribs) 21:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

The edit that I reverted was this one in which you merely repeated the entire contents of the existing article, minus any nice Wiki formatting. Perhaps your intention was different, but your effect was that, and that was not terribly constructive. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 21:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

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Undo your tags

the redirects like Hannah Proctor will be useful. she is really gorgeous and will probably get famous one day — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christine Cherney (talk • contribs) 22:42, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

When she gets famous, we can create an article about her based on the available reliable sources. For now, having a redirect to the page about the high school, when the high school page doesn't even mention her, is just pointless and confusing. WikiDan61<sup>ChatMe!</sup><sub>ReadMe!!</sub> 22:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi WikiDan61,

I am complete novice and sincerely thank you for your feedback.

I'll try again and take into consideration the changes you have suggested.

Thanks again.

Thank you

Hi WikiDan61,

I am complete novice and sincerely thank you for your feedback.

I'll try again and take into consideration the changes you have suggested.

Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tea cup13 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 12 November 2013 (UTC)