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August 2013[edit]

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Promontory Financial[edit]

Hi, I noticed you reverted my updates and changes to Promontory but I don't see my changes as being categorized as WP:VAN. My changes are from the sources, for example it states 383 employees and not circa 400, as you changed it back to. But I'd like to work with you on this since I see you have put a lot of time into the updates. Perhaps we can discuss your objections on Talk:Promontory Financial Group. Didn't mean to startle you with the updates, I use Wikipedia:Sandbox to make my changes before inserting. Look forward to working with you. --Monstermike99 (talk) 21:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Monstermike99, This must be a misunderstanding on your part. You have reverted my treatments. You have revised the whole article. I did not agree with it. You should carry out your changes warily and, besides, take some consideration on the treatments of other authors. Whole paragraphs of my work were extinguished by you, so as they would be wrong, including in addition for that purpose from me determined ascertained references in a work of several hours. I don't mind basically if other people correct my work or if they have another opinion. If somebody ruins still my whole work, it is not surprising that I defend this work. For the rest, no obligation insists for me on writing a vandalism message. I cherish the wish to cooperate, too. I welcome even opinions which differ from my views, insofar as they can be justified.

The number of employees in an enterprise can change every day and every hour. Yesterday there were working 383 people, and nowadays? It is not usual to specify exactly the number of the employees of a company up to the last place, because a daily actualisation would not be possible and also overdone. The approximate number is perfect enough. Tri-l (talk) 14:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is great news Tri-l and much appreciated, look forward to working with you. What I will do is list my changes on the Talk:Promontory Financial Group, with the sources I included, and then you can respond to my justifications in kind. I will also include others in the category for a baseline of sorts to form some sort of neutrality/comparison. I'm sure based on your edits that the subject is something you have intimate knowledge of so I'll lean on your expertise. I again apologize you took great offense to my edits but I'm not quite sure what "no obligation insists for me on writing a vandalism message" means, but I know how Wiki defines it on this page WP:VAN. As I stated earlier, my changes were not put together in "several hours", I used the Wikipedia:Sandbox when doing my updates and included them when completed. I fancy myself as a great researcher but you're giving me too much credit :) But have a great weekend, I'll continue the discussion there and again looking forward to it. --Monstermike99 (talk) 23:07, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BCE[edit]

Hi Tri-I! I saw you reverted my edit on Jericho, and was wondering the rationale. The established style of the article was actually BC/AD, until it was unilaterally changed by user "Tristan von Troy" about two years ago. This was in violation of WP:BCE, which says "An article's established era style should not be changed without reasons specific to its content; seek consensus on the talk page first (applying Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Retaining existing styles) by opening a discussion under a heading using the word era, and briefly stating why the style should be changed." Korossyl (talk) 13:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I respect your religious beliefs, of course. However, we must bear in mind that many people do not share your faith. The abbreviation AD stands for Anno Domini, translated as in the year of the Lord. These styles were quite common in older scientific literature and therefore are still mostly accepted today. Wikipedia articles are aimed at all people, regardless of their beliefs. To ensure the neutrality of these lemmas, authors should therefore use the more objective term Common Era. If this terminology bothers you, you can register it for yourself as Christian Era. I guess that is a good compromise.

It is remarkable how much effort you have made to clarify this matter through communicative means. I would like to thank you for that.

As authors, we should not convey beliefs in Wikipedia. That is why I have come to the conclusion to only use BCE and CE in historical descriptions. - Tri@l (talk) 02:04, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And I agree it would be nice if WP had a specific stance on this -- either AD/BC [i]or[/i] BCE/CE. But the guidelines DO state that either IS acceptable -- and that it's not to be changed without consensus. That's why I was concerned to find that it HAD been changed, unilaterally, by that user about two years ago. Korossyl (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may not like my view on this, but I generally opt for the use of BCE/CE for historical time indications, because this comes closer to a neutral evaluation of such indications. The exact determination of the turning point of time has, as we know today, been chosen somewhat arbitrarily and in no way refers to the birth of a particular person. In the evaluation of human history, we who are born later should adopt a standpoint as neutral as possible in order to ensure the correct evaluation of every single epoch.

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In antiquity, years were often counted according to the reign of a ruler. Christians believed in the (heavenly) reign of the anointed one, their Lord. The delivery of this person was computed AFAIR in the sixth century by a Greek monk from the holy scriptures of the Christians, whereby this man, due to inadequate education made mistakes. - Tri@l (talk) 17:56, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I do understand your reasoning, and we can certainly agree to disagree. But WP:ERA is pretty clear, isn't it? And that's in spite of NPOV; AD/BC are, by virtue of that policy, considered by Wikipedia to be as neutral as BCE/CE -- whether you or I agree or not. Thoughts? Korossyl (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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