User talk:Salander2000

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Hello, Salander2000, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. 208.98.222.28 (talk) 06:33, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm My Pants Metal. I noticed that you recently removed content from Elisa Hategan without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. My Pants Metal (talk) 13:28, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Information icon Hi Salander2000! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Elisa Hategan several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Elisa Hategan, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tips re the process, I didn't know the process and appreciate the suggestions. Salander2000 (talk) 18:54, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of content from Elisa Hategan[edit]

Removing inaccurate advice ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I noticed you've removed content from Elisa Hategan. While the points you've made about the source could be valid, the section remains notable and should not be removed. If you'd like to update this with more information, you're more than welcome to. However, it's important to not indiscriminately remove content just because the reference it is tagged with is unreliable. Thank you! -Asheiou (they/them • talk) 13:46, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How can you state that it's important not to remove content just because the reference is unreliable? I thought the whole point of Wikipedia referencing was to ensure that reliable-only content is approved. If we allow unreliable sources that are not based on factual evidence and may be connected to other lawsuit adversaries to add whatever they want, it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Salander2000 (talk) 13:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just because a reference used is unreliable, it does not mean that the point is invalid. It's first important to check for content on reliable sources that confirm or deny the statements made. If those sources confirm what the article says, then we can just swap out the source for a new one. If they don't, we can correct the information and use the new reference. It's, however, important to not remove context for other editors! By removing content, it becomes harder to fact check and correct. I hope this makes sense! -Asheiou (they/them • talk) 13:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do appreciate your explanation and I am trying to understand, but it seems extremely unfair to defend a decision to keep unreliable info until such time it gets swapped out with a more reliable reference. I'm not as familiar with the Wiki process as you are, but I believed that when a subject is under contention, the safer rule is to leave that segment out until final decisions are made, rather than allow incorrect material to be viewed as fact. Salander2000 (talk) 13:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the advice above is inaccurate; I have now described this here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Salander2000 reported by User:Asheiou (Result: ). Thank you. -Asheiou (they/them • talk) 15:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]