User talk:Ron 1987

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== Germany allows same sex marriage

LGBT Jordan Flag Removal

Should I be concerned that you've removed the jordanian lgbt flag from the page?

Edit summaries

Hi, please use edit summaries. It helps others to understand the intention of your edit and you can even avoid accidentally leaving edit summaries blank, see Help:Edit summary. Regards Hekerui (talk) 15:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

04 EU page

You realise you can't talk to a bot? It is automatic. I've left messages on the bot's owners talk pages. They'll make the changes to get it to stop making the edit.- _J.Logan`^t: 23:36, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

2004 enlargement of the European Union

Hi, your bot is incorrectly adding interwikies to 2004 enlargement of the European Union. nl:Toetreding van Bulgarije tot de Europese Unie, fr:Procédure d'adhésion de la Bulgarie à l'Union européenne, ro:Integrarea României în Uniunea Europeană and simple:Accession of Romania to the European Union are not comparable articles. Please override your bot on this. Ron 1987 12:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't see, user:Trehill checked that, I overrode and all seems good now. --Sisyph (talk) 05:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not arguing the importance, I'm arguing the relevance. 24.207.61.64 (talk) 02:17, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I fail to see which right. I cannot find a single constitution guaranteeing the right to make Youtube videos. 24.207.61.64 (talk) 19:12, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

2010 in LGBT rights

Just through to let you know that you are currently involved in re-adding a blocked user's addition that is against the grain of consensus on talk.Lihaas (talk) 08:43, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, there is way to say something and not WP:NPA. My response was a very courteous note. Secondly, your edit summaried were non-existant and against mention of both the other editors. per WP:BRD that addition needs consensus to come back in. Something the banned user did not do.Lihaas (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Finland

Hi, why can't the YouTube video[1] be there alongside the newspaper article, since the article is the primary source anyway? -- 94.101.2.145 (talk) 20:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Election updates

Hi, I don't think you need to update election numbers of ongoing elections every time the California Secretary of State updates the website. The results will be final on November 30 and the outcome is decided, so why not wait? Hekerui (talk) 00:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

RoughTranslation tag

Thanks for adding it. I'm, er, not sure how I missed it. Roscelese (talk) 18:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Illinois Civil unions?

How is the article up to date when the Illinois legislature legalized civil unions and it does not mention a word of that? (Tigerghost (talk) 05:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Removing tags from Same-sex Marriage in New York

I appreciate your efforts of contributing articles in Wikipedia, especially of current issues.
No offense, You have not summarized your edits [2]. Curiously, why would you remove the tags? The timeline sections should be reformatted into paragraphs, and you may not be familiar with proseline, which is the format used in Timeline. --Gh87 (talk) 19:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Stop putting external links in edit summaries

Hi, I saw your edits on Template:Same-sex unions. Edit summaries are for explanations of changes you make, not for urls. If you want to explain an edit with a link, do it on the talk page. Don't cite external links that people have to visit but don't want to visit or that don't last (like Google News links, they are down quickly). No one can divine what you mean with an url, explain what you did instead, per WP:EDSUM. Thanks. Hekerui (talk) 20:39, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Slovenia

I just wanted to ask you whether you are sure that Slovenia will expand registered partnerships instead of legalizing same-sex marriage! I came across several sites that state that the government will approve SSM, like this one http://www.24kul.si/?id=798&fmod=0 Olliyeah (talk) 07:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Oregon and Washington

Now in 2011, both states have more and more progress and unions in these states ar similiar to marriages. 188.118.183.248 (talk) 03:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC) Unions in both states granting rights similar to marriage and there were only at the beginning a legislation granting limited/enumerated rights. 188.118.183.248 (talk) 03:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Same-sex unions

Hi, if you have problems with the last section, please start a discussion on the template talk page.

Where is the agreement that "Only jurisdictions which does not recognizes same-sex unions should be in this section"? Hekerui (talk) 23:06, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Evidence

What evidence do you have that Australia, Brazil & Chile are unlikely? At least provide evidence on Australia & Brazil, since Chile is going for civil unions now, apparently. --Smart (talk) 00:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Utah WP: Infobox references

Thanks Ron 1987. Your edits to LGBT rights in Utah encouraged me to review how similar pages for other states distinguish the lack of certain state protections when other protections exist within state entities like universities and political subdivisions like counties, cities and districts. Several pages include references in the main body of the article, and shorter references in the WP: Infobox. I published similar short references for the Utah Infobox which explain that the state isn't completely void of protections. The references are proved by the main body of the article. In Utah, as in many states, such protections are currently creations of state entities and political subdivisions, not the state itself. Thanks again for helping make the difference clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.47.179 (talk) 02:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage in Oregon

You reverted a good faith edit to Same-sex marriage in Oregon, but you did not explain why. I reverted your revert because, superficially at least, the edit appears to be an improvement. —EncMstr (talk) 05:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

New Hampshire Questions

New Hampshire is trying to Repeal there Same-Sex Marriage Law. Where would that go on Same-sex marriage legislation in the United States? Would it be under 2.2?

I don't know where it would go or not. It looks like they are trying to take all the marriages from now on and change them to civil unions. However everyone who was married is still considered married in the state. It would be just future marriages.

Samesexmarriage101 (talk) 05:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Same-sex immigration policy in Brazil

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Template:Same sex marriage map Europe

Neither map would be compatible with this one, as it doesn't reflect constitutional bans on same-sex marriage. Ignis Fatuus (talk) 21:48, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Re:Housing discrimination

Thanks for the heads-up. I can't believe I missed Delaware, especially since the HRC has a page about Delaware's non-discrimination laws but doesn't reflect that on its map. I went ahead and fixed my map and emailed the HRC about its mistake. Xnux 20:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage in Alagoas

Thank you for for your help with this article. When I created it, I had simply done a copy and paste of the guy who wanted a new article's comments on the template talk page. Since most of the sources aren't in English, I found it a bit of a challenge. So again, thank you and go hog wild if you want. :-) Me-123567-Me (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Same-sex unions

Let's wait for a consensus before removing. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:31, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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Same-sex marriage in Alagoas

I'm getting really frustrated with your lack of communication. I removed them because they are cited. I can move the citations if necessary. They're all at the end of the paragraph right now. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:37, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I invite you to join me in a new discussion. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

AfD for Chronology_of_diplomatic_recognitions_and_relations_of_South_Sudan

You participated in a related discussion before. The current one is here. Japinderum (talk) 11:36, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

This RFC is related to the recent AfD you participated at. Japinderum (talk) 08:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Seeking consensus on when to edit File:Samesex marriage in USA.svg following new legislation/court-rulings

Hello, I have noticed you made edits on File talk:Samesex marriage in USA.svg and/or File talk:Samesex marriage in USA.svg/Archive 5, so I am contacting you to take part in a newly-formed discussion at File talk:Samesex marriage in USA.svg as for whether we should update the map directly when a new legislation or court-order hits the books or if we should wait until said action takes effect. Historically, we have been updating the map when the new legislation is signed (or veto overrode or won at the ballot box, etc.), and thus it can be inferred that the consensus is to update as soon as one of those occurs. A discussion has emerged in regards to whether we should begin updating from the effective date instead of from the date of signing/etc. If you have an opinion over this matter please post it at File_talk:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg#When_to_update_map.3F_Effective_date_or_signing.2Fruling_date

Thegreyanomaly (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

European Certificate of Succession

Are u sure that it is only a recommendation? it's listed as a regulation - hence immediately enforceable as law in all member states! Furthermore, if it were a recommendation the UK wouldn't have insisted not to be included in the draft! http://www.eia.org.uk/view.php?id=2585&PHPSESSID=66195c1e24bcfd371fed4e78935af92f Olliyeah (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I know that we talked about it some time ago but the same matter came up in the news today (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/push-give-gay-partners-equal-property-rights-eu120612).. it's a regulation proposed by the EU-Commision (hence not an "opinion" by the European parliament - which usually are not legally binding)!Olliyeah (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Marriage in Brazil

Excuse me, same-sex marriage is legal in Brazil (although it can't be performed directly) the country's Supreme Court ruled that two women can be legally married, and I even included a reference [3]. Even the article on Same-sex marriage in Brazil states it "In Brazil, a same-sex couple may convert their civil union into marriage with the approval of a state judge, if approved that marriage is recognized in all the national territory". --DrkFrdric (talk) 18:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but the ruling states that two people of the same sex can be legally married in Brazil, maybe it wasnt the Supreme Court, but as long as the Supreme Court doesnt strike the decision down, it stands. Now, you are right, not every single judge is going to perform these marriages, but a same-sex marriage is not illegal in Brazil, that was the essence of the ruling. So, same-sex marriage is legal in Brazil, even if not a single couple is allowed to marry, the court ruling was clear: Brazilian laws permit same-sex marriage. But obvioulsy, its not like Argentina where marriages are freely performed, that's why I put a "conditional" next to it. Only one same-sex marriage being declared legal is enough to show that a country's laws dont forbid marriage between two persons of the same-sex and as I write there are probably nearly a hundred valid same-sex marriages in Brazil. --DrkFrdric (talk) 19:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect, the ruling does not give them permission to get married. The point was "is the marriage of two persons of the same-sex legal under Brazilian law?" and the court said yes. --DrkFrdric (talk) 20:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's clear, but that's not the point. The question is: "is same-sex marriage legal in X country?". In Brazil, it is, as the court ruled; even if there still isn't a way for every couple to get that right easily. --DrkFrdric (talk) 20:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Certainly, same-sex couples can get married in Brazil as easily as straight couples (although they all can, because there a lot of judges giving marriage licenses in almost every Brazilian state), but this turns Barzil into a "special case", because same-sex marriage is legal, but there still isn't a bill that regulates how same-sex couples can get married, that's why couples have to go with judges, but then as I sais, same-sex marriage is legal. So we should at least add a note to make people know of the situation in the country, because it certainly is not illegal. I think the "(conditional)" illustrates this, but we could also asdd a note, as I said. --DrkFrdric (talk) 20:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

2012 in LGBT rihts

Just say this, not sure if it should be reverted as a notabke person. Any idea?Lihaas (talk) 06:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Map

Huh? What is "disgusting and unacceptable"[4]? You might want to join in the discussion on the map; I have no idea what you're objecting to. — kwami (talk) 21:04, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The colors are from Colorbrewer, which accommodates RG color blindness. Also, one of the problems with the current scheme is that it suggests that state-recognized marriage (light blue) is less legal recognition than no recognition of marriage (medium blue), which is backwards.

The distinction between 'most' (married in all but name) and 'some' (distinctly less than the rights of married) is not ours, but taken from the ILGA.

— kwami (talk) 23:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

same sex marriage

Hi there, once the ballots are officially certified this month and will definatly be on the november ballot can they be added to the timeline page Guyb123321 (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit to Same-sex marriage in Iceland does not have an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Czesc

Hi! i am a spanish boy, i have lived in poland for a year. :) are you polish? --BernardaAlba (talk) 09:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thay´s cool. And you participate in any assotation or movement about LGBT rights appart of "cyber activism"? --BernardaAlba (talk) 10:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

New Zealand Same Sex Marriage

Hi Ron I have noticed you have deleted my edit of: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Same-sex_marriage_in_New_Zealand&pe=1&#Public_opinion

I was wondering why you keep removing my edit.

I would like to discus the topic and come up with a consensus as I belief my points are valid.

Cheers

CRaZyKcNz (talk) 05:14, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

What the hell happened to WP:COMMONNAME? How the hell is "Question 1" more accessible for readers (who, especially as time marches on) are unlikely have a clue one what the ballot position of the question was? How is it absurd to reverse a move that was made without consensus as admitted on the talk page by the proposer? Aside from a visceral love of irrelevancies like "official" names, do you have any reason for your reversion? Having an article called Proposition 8 or Proposition 187 is reasonable because that is, in popular culture, what those are known as, but "Question 1" has no such currency. -Rrius (talk) 16:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Template_talk:Czech_elections#Presidential_Elections_prior_to_2013

Hello, seeing that you have contributed to the Template:Czech elections, I would like to invite you to share your view on inclusion of presidential elections prior to 2013 to the list. Thank you, Cimmerian praetor (talk) 12:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for adding template:LGBT in Washington State to appropriate articles. Navigational templates like this do a lot to help readers find information they need and it makes a big difference. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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	For updating vote totals and checking many edits for correctness. Hekerui (talk) 10:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Oaxaca

He Ron, I reverted your revert based on my reading of the source. Feel free to re-revert however if I am missing something (data from those South American states is... complicated)... L.tak (talk) 23:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

same sex marriage map

He Ron, saw your revert of the South America map, but am unfortunately not capable of doing it myself (as the map does not have those handy svg-labels per state that are available in us etc...). How can we get that updated; are you capable of doing that? I am not very happy with an incorrect map, although I understand that it is good to keep consistency between the different same sex maps; so this situation can not stay there for weeks I'd say... L.tak (talk) 10:28, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I'm in the process of completing my edits to Maryland Question 6. The template I added is not the same as the one in the results section. My preference would be to have Washington, Maine, and Maryland look the same. If you prefer not having both on the page, I will re-write the results section. Please don't remove the template. I spent time making it. Thank you. Teammm ^talk
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New Mexico Marriage Bill

Hey Ron, I know you update Same-sex marriage legislation in the United States a majority of the time. A House member in the state is proposing a consitutional amendment to legalize marriage equality in the state of New Mexico. Where would that go on that page. Like what section would it go in? http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/_session.aspx?chamber=H&legtype=JR&legno=3&year=13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samesexmarriage101 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill - Tellers

Hi Ron,

The UK Parliamentary system is a little antiquated and anachronistic so I entirely understand why people from other countries often make mistakes when describing how it works. There are some guides produced by Parliament on votes and the roles of tellers here:

[[5]]

[[6]]

[[7]]

Although tellers do count the votes - and always support the votes they are counting - they do not technically vote themselves and so are in a slightly different position to all of the rest of the MPs who voted a certain way. As such, it's always useful to make this clear and the Parliamentary guidance in the third link notes that "...reports on some websites will, for instance, report “189 + 2 tell” as having voted in a certain way".

I hope this helps :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chid12 (talk • contribs) 10:24, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Finland Marriage

It was killed by committee but there will be a citizens initiative to force parliament to vote on the bill. --Smart (talk) 12:20, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Argentina

Do you have any sources which are in English? And what way do you think this can be presented in the lead, as it most certainly is a notable fact? --Scientiom (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

LGBT at North Korea

• “그리고 북한에서도 동성애자에 대해서는“세기말적인 부르주아적 타락”으로 몰아세우고 있다.”(And North Korea also lashed out at the LGBT is “decay of bourgeois at the end of a century”.), 《미국 공인회계사 손헌수의 시카고 통신》

And according to testimony of North Korean defectors, LGBTs were shot to death at North Korea. Thank you. --Idh0854 (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

• 北朝鮮で同性愛者は公開死刑、「資本主義に染まった罪」＝韓国, livedoor News
• 北朝鮮で同性愛者は公開死刑、「資本主義に染まった罪」＝韓国, searchina

Also, according to source of Japanese wikipedia, Woman's LGBT was publicly executed in North Korea. Thank you. --Idh0854 (talk) 02:39, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Same-sex union legislation Chile

I noticed that you deleted my entries for Chile (and replaced one for 2013 which is wrong as you can read in the references) arguing that These bills died in the committee, they were not voted by the parliament. I don't know where did you get that information which is incorrect as you may see in the references I posted. I intend to put my entries again if there is no objection in the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kallme (talk • contribs) 21:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Recognition of same-sex unions in Albania

I removed that part because it misleadingly suggested that same-sex marriage was not legalized because of the boycott.There was nor real promise,it was actually just a political stunt by the premier to suggest that Albania is european.Now that the opposition has returned to the Parliament the government has never mentioned the issue at all even if we are in an election year Vargmali (talk) 06:58, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit summary

"Bad idea" is a very poor edit summary, it tells me nothing as to why you reverted. CTF83! 23:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Marriage Equality Maps

Please stop outright reverting my map edits. diff If you would like to change something, alter what I have added, and then upload an improved version.

When you revert something I have worked hard on, I do not feel good about the Wikipedia project. WP:BITE

I do not think “looks bad” is a useful edit summary diff diff and summaries written this way hurt my feelings as a wikipedian. Thank you ―Info por favor (talk) 17:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Germany and Croatian accession

Stop reverting referenced content. The link [8] clearly states that Germany has obtained parliamentary approval. Shokatz (talk) 10:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

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Same Sex Marriage in Italy

Hi,

i saw that u added another bill for SSM in Italy. I made a quick research and found that there are dozens of other bills which would establish SSM/civil unions/registered partnerships and have been presented to the parliament in this legislative period! So what should we do? I need to add them all or remove the ones we already put in the list! What do you think?

as an example: http://www.senato.it/leg/17/BGT/Schede_v3/Ddliter/39495.htm http://www.senato.it/leg/17/BGT/Schede_v3/Ddliter/39865.htm http://www.senato.it/leg/17/BGT/Schede_v3/Ddliter/39506.htm http://www.senato.it/leg/17/BGT/Schede_v3/Ddliter/40058.htm

Additionally i looked at the members of the Justice comitteee and those bills don't have a chance to pass that stage, if the government isn't united on bringing a bill forward.Olliyeah (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Same-sex unions in the United States

Hi, please take a look at Template talk:Same-sex unions in the United States#Civil unions recognized but no longer available. Thanks, SPQRobin (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage in Mexico

Hi Ron, I moved the discussion from here to Template_talk:Same-sex_unions#Mexico as the issue seems to be recurrent in the template. I hope you don't mind. Cheers, --Xocoyotzin (talk) 22:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:LGBT in Japan

Yaoi has nothing to do with LGBT. Yaoi is culture of the heterosexuals. It is inappropriate to write in Template:LGBT in Japan.

ヤオイ(Yaoi)は1970年代の日本で、異性愛女性に生み出されたものです。ja:森鴎外の娘のja:森茉莉が、書いたのが一番最初ですが。基本的にヤオイは異性愛者の文化です。ゲイ男性の多くはヤオイは読みません。

Yaoi was produced in Japan of the 1970s by a heterosexually oriented woman. It is Mori Mari first to have written. Yaoi is culture of the heterosexuals. Most of gay men do not read Yaoi. It has nothing to do with the culture of LGBT.--Leoxaq (talk) 05:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Template:LGBT in Japan it's appropriate place to write about it. It's related topic. Ron 1987 (talk) 07:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Yaoi is a cltures of the heterosexuals, by the heterosexuals, for the heterosexuals. It isn't related topic.--Leoxaq (talk) 07:47, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

You don't have any reliable sources to support your claims. Yaoi presents homoerotic or homoromantic male androphilic sexual relationships, so it is related topic. ~~

Yaio is an imaginary product of the hetero woman. It is different from the real homosexual. source:「オトコノコのためのボーイフレド」（1986,Japan）P72[9].--121.103.7.76 (talk) 02:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Since your talk page, IIRC, is how I learned about this topic in the first place, let me ping you that the discussion is now taking place at Template talk:LGBT in Japan. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 17:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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LGBT adoption (Portugal)

Hi, you may have noticed my edit of your edit of my edit in LGBT adoption. I'm very open to any better drafting, but it is indeed incorrect to say that the bill was rejected in the second vote. The reference you gave yourself clearly says "adiamento da votação" ("postponement of vote"), so there was no second vote and the bill is technically still pending (as the parliamentary site I have referred to also says), but for the time being effectively blocked, while the motion to have a referendum is being discussed. Sigur (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Polish article on civil partnerships

Please have a look at Polish article on Civil partnerships. It has been owned by a few editors. Have a look yourself.--188.79.94.53 (talk) 20:27, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

What is your problem?

It seems that you clearly intend to undo/delete every edit/contribution I make. Do you like to bite much? --Keshetsven (talk) 16:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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Date formatting

I just reverted your change in date format because WP:BADDATEFORMAT says that DD-MM-YYYY is an "unacceptable date format". It looks like you've been making a bunch of these edits, so you should probably go back and fix them. TDL (talk) 19:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, what does it mean when someone "reviews" a Wikipedia page? I got a notification that said you reviewed Same-sex marriage in Kentucky.. --Prcc27 (talk) 03:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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My name is Kenneth Grima a Maltese citizen and I phoned few days ago at the Public Registry Department in Malta to the head of the department Ms.Melinda Zahra to see what documents I need to register my marriage ( I married in 2005 in The Netherlands as my husband is Dutch) and it is gonna be recognized as a marriage but they will be registering them from mid to end of June 2014 as soon as all paper work is effected. The Law although published in both Maltese and English the Maltese version is the effective one and in the Maltese version it is clearly stated that foreign marriages effected abroad will be recognized as marriages and nothing inferior to that. If you want to check for yourself, her e-mail is [email protected]. One cannot base on the English version as Maltese is the official language when it comes to laws and legal matters, so if you are not a Maltese native speaker it will be very difficult for you or for anybody else to translate correctly the Maltese version and the English one is just for guidance more than offical laws in fact it is stipulated by law that if there are any differences between the 2 versions the Maltese one takes always precedence. Kenneth Grima ) 12:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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Same sex marriage in Kosovo; using the old constitution.

The constitution that you provided information from is no longer available. The new constitution was ruled in 2008 and it clearly states the same sex marriage position. The new constitution made the headlines with this topic.

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Can you give me a reason why you reverted the neutral term 'public promotion of LGBT issues' and added the liberally biased term 'Pride parade'? The term 'Pride parade' is not a WP:NPOV. – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 09:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Your term is certanly not neutral and is weird. Stop to impose your personal views. There is no consensus for this change. You should read BRD, Consensus. Ron 1987 (talk) 21:02, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, why are you reverting the edits of Monkbot (talk · contribs), as with this edit? --Redrose64 (talk) 00:05, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Also here. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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So I'm not sure if you noticed it yet, but committees in both chambers of the Swiss legislature have approved a motion for a Constitutional amendment which would legalize marriage for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender, as well as opening registered partnerships for opposite sex couples. Does this have to be approved by the a full vote in parliament or is it essentially a done deal now? If it is, should we make a new entry similar to the one we created for Ireland in the legislation page? I look forward to your input. Chase1493 (talk) 19:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, I'd just like to note that you reverted Prcc27's edit without providing any edit summary. I think adding Finland made sense, but it doesn't really matter to me either way, I just think it is important to provide a reasoning, or at least simply stating you are reverting an edit, rather than just silently undoing it. Thank you, SPQRobin (talk) 14:01, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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One of the reasons why I want to make these changes is to better reflect the vote tally, even if the mistakes weren't fixed on that particular website about the official vote count:

1) Both the Swedish People's Party Parliamentary Group and two other MPs have stated that they've voted a certain way by mistake and wished to correct that record (see TenorTwelve (talk) 23:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hello,

Please agree to stop removing the Dutch Eurobarometer poll. You are putting on the same level a poll done by the EC with thousands of one-on-one interviews and another done by an aquatic association. There is too much difference in the numbers to say that the IGLA has not done something wrong.

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Nope, your personal opinion is certainly not a reason to give a Eurobarometer poll a preferential treatment. Ron 1987 (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I tend to agree with WhatsUpWorld here, as even though the Eurobarometer poll was conducted one year earlier, it is generally more reliable as it was conducted by an organization under the European Commision. I believe the public support for sex marriage could not have fallen by 27% in a single year. I ask you to take into account the information stated in both surveys and make your own conclusions. Cheers, FriyMan ^{Per aspera ad astra} 20:20, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

More reliable? Because you think so? Polls differs between each other, sometimes significantly. It is nothing unusual. Show reliable sources questioning ILGA's reliability, otherwise, your claim is baseless. Ron 1987 (talk) 22:47, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Please be open-minded and show more civility, Ron 1987. Cheers, FriyMan ^{Per aspera ad astra} 09:56, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Switzerland link

Please update the link from Registered partnership in Switzerland to Recognition of same-sex unions in Switzerland on the Same-sex unions template and on the related articles as you did for the link for Czechia. --2607:FEA8:559F:FA30:29B2:A4BC:4643:59BF (talk) 06:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Poland

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I hope you're doing well. This is not having to do with edits, but in case you haven't heard, a political party in Poland (Modern) has proposed partnerships, including for same-sex couples! It's very possible you have heard this already, but I thought since you self-identify as Polish on your page and support same-sex marriage, I thought you would appreciate hearing the news! I'm not sure if this is a proposed or pending bill; I think it will be a while until legislation could pass, but this definitely is an important and significant development! I thought you might want to know. The article is in Polish. I found an English translation from @LGBTmarriage on Twitter.

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Same-sex marriage

Hi, Ron. The information is both factual and very well-sourced. The new information is important because it covers notable topics that surround same-sex marriage. Aren't the additions helpful and informative? Looking forward to hearing from you, --Justthefacts9 (talk) 02:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Ron. The research on suicides is very important and quite notable (and well sourced), because of how significant the effect was. It makes sense to place it prominently in the lead given it's importance, or else it may be not viewed. As for the mention of civil rights campaigning in 1970s in the US, perhaps it could be worded a little differently? Would you like to suggest a better way to phrase it so that it's accurately stated? Looking forward to hearing from you, --Justthefacts9 (talk) 03:29, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

The research is about a general effect which could be extrapolated to other countries. It's a very well-known study that ranks as the #1 viewed pediatrics study in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Indeed, the study is so globally prominent that it was used as an important argument in favor of same-sex marriage by health experts in Australia, during the referendum campaign there ([10]), who extrapolated the data to Australia. That's how notable the study is. --Justthefacts9 (talk) 04:00, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

needles?

You used the word "needles" as an edit comment. I do not know this word. Can you please elaborate? Also the edit you made, seems as it was an error. It looks like an revert. But if it was, then there would have been a revert comment and I would have been notified. Would you please undo this edit yourself? --C.Suthorn (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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spurious precision in SSM table

Hi Ron,

We're lucky if these polls are +/- 5%, and that's just the theoretical error from the sample size. Throw in real-world confounding factors, and it's gonna be worse than that. So, really, even reporting to the nearest 1% is unrealistically optimistic. There's no way we can justify reporting results to the nearest 0.1%, not unless we also give the sampling error (as we did in the US table). — kwami (talk) 03:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Can u create a new page please

Hi sorry to bother u again And please respond with a yes or no this time so i know if i should ask another editor

but can u pls Create this timeline page by translating it from spanish 

Its an important page misding in english wiki Whenever u can or have time https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Cronología_de_la_despenalización_de_la_homosexualidad_por_país AdamPrideTN (talk) 22:18, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Fixing a rederection

in the table of same sex marriage in the faroe islands edit the first table under the map in gay marriage since 2017 it redericts to denmark and not to faroe island marriage page Can u fix that please Sorry again AdamPrideTN (talk) 23:01, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

An update maybe

reports that two anti-#LGBT bills, including a marriage ban bill, which passed the Senate last year, have still not advanced in the lower house

https://www.voanews.com/amp/in-haiti-slight-progress-for-lgbt-rights-is-seen-as-victory/4528161.html

http://www.whig.com/article/20180814/AP/308149903

http://agenciaaids.com.br/noticia/54575/

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vandalism?

Since when did the LGBT activists accuse each other of vandalism? --Терпр (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Why the removal of categories

I know maybe you will ignore me and dont respond again But its okay Just wanted to ask why the removal of categories Im not wrong in mutting them for example this romanian latest one was a one in opposition of ssm pushed by religious conservatives Whats the difference with the upcoming tiawanese one or slovakian or croatian ones that passed Ssu legislatiin isnt it by these referzndums i found it in irish one usnt it the same with aussie one too Strange but ok :/ AdamPrideTN (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hello I created a dreaft about Draft:Same-sex marriage in South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands from information that i can only find from the net Its short i know but its a jurisdiction so i think it deserves it's own like other overseas territories Do u know how and Would u help in any way to make it a page and not just a draft Thank you AdamPrideTN (talk) 11:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Reverting on List of U.S. jurisdictions banning conversion therapy

Hi, you removed a paragragh that I added in the edit before. However, it should be done as an actual revert with an edit summary explaining it. I don't know if it's intentional, but simply removing what has just been added is not so polite (or arguably even passive-aggressive). If you disagree with an addition, it should rather be discussed with arguments; I'm more of an inclusionist and think the information is relevant. Thanks, SPQRobin (talk) 13:33, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Same sex unions in Poland

Hi Sorry but the law and constitution specefically without doubt ban same sex marriages and uses man wome The law was not striken down by the suoreme or constitutional court of the country The statuoary ban still exist and as u know u doubt that the right conservative parliament and goverment will never change the law nor accept itvesides the same marriage was not recognised so

Is it wise to assume as many did like in marriages ban or recongnition in europe or european union pages that poland no longer still has a constitutional marriage ban I think it does have and will have it So editing wrongly other pages on that is wrong? Should we revert them to point that poland still has the ban it dasnt striken down or changed u know What do u think? Thank u AdamPrideTN (talk) 01:58, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

"Recognized"

Hey. If we list Netherlands under recognition in the SSM template, despite the fact that the islands only rec SSM per local law, then shouldn't we list the UK? Northern Ireland recs SSM from elsewhere in the UK per local law, exactly analogous to the Netherlands. And if we don't list Italy, Croatia, Hungary, Estonia, Switzerland, San Marino etc. who do the same, because they have CU's, then why should we list Aruba, which also has CU's, or the other Dutch islands, which don't even have that? It seems completely inconsistent. IMO, we should only list countries under "marriage" if the unions are treated as marriage, which they are in Mexico and Israel (and possibly Armenia), but not, AFAICT, anywhere else. If they're treated as CU's, then they should be listed under CU's, and if they're given only limited recognition, then they should be listed under limited recognition. — kwami (talk) 17:47, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

LGBT history in Mexico

Hello I was planning to create a Timeline of LGBT history in Mexico (which i did now) u can find it in the history section that is still there I was going to leave the history of precolumbian and moved to the history part that there is now And move the timeline section to a new timeline page (I hope its clear) A pity now that there is some editor who erased all the first history part containing timeline And now its blocked and i cannot find it to move it to the new intended article of timeline of LGBT History in Mexico Any idea how can that valuable content of the first removed history can be found and moved to the new page Any help please Thank you AdamPrideTN (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Oaxaca II

Hi Ron,

Do you know what's going on in Oaxaca? I reverted an edit to SSM in Mex, but more recent refs seem to support. I'm letting you know because you reverted that editor's claims about Hidalgo, so I wonder if your not reverting Oaxaca was an oversight or if you have better sources on what's going on. — kwami (talk) 03:31, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism on same-sex marriage

Hello Ron, I would like to let you know that a few users are vandalizing the article same-sex marriage. They insist to remove sourced researches that have found that children to same-sex couples grow just as well or even better than children to other couples. They claim that these researches are not sourced, even though they are perfectly sourced. They probably do this because these professional scientific researches do not conform to their anti-LGBT agenda. I would highly appreciate it if you could participate in the talk page. We must not allow anti-LGBT bias in this important article. Thank you! Guycn2 · ☎ 22:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

ILGA 2018 report

https://ilga.org/state-sponsored-homophobia-report

Hi the latest 2019 ilga report is very important and highly big and informative Many lgbt country pages in africa asia and (even americas) need to be updated urhently Take ur time and check and hope u can update the countries Some unapdated even from 2011

There is also the blog erasing 76 Like this just write the name of country and erasing 76 in google like that

Also there is The U.S. Department of State's 2019 Human Rights Report

I would do it happily but i'm focusing much on the translating English LGBT content pages into Arabic all the time and can't much

Thx good luck (no pressure of course, just a suggestion) AdamPrideTN (talk) 08:37, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Daily important updates that go unnoticed

http://www.equalityontrial.com/2019/06/25/625-open-thread/#idc-container

https://mobile.twitter.com/lgbtmarriage

https://m.facebook.com/nelfa.aisbl/

Are one of the best sites woth sources that provides daily updates about lgbt rights (some that go unedited for weeks)

I would advice you to check them from time to time for updates

I would do what i can happily but i'm focusing much on the translating English LGBT content pages into Arabic all the time and can't much

Thx good luck (no pressure of course, just a suggestion) AdamPrideTN (talk) 08:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Mariage amendments template

Hi i know that u will mostly just ignore me and not respond to this as usual But ok! This is from Mongolia page Marriage is defined as a heteronormative institution in Article 16 (11) of the Mongolian Constitution as: "Marriage is based on the equality and mutual consent of a man and a woman who have reached the age determined by law. The State protects the interests of the family, motherhood, and the child." Same-sex relationships are not recognized under Mongolian law.

Ok about Venezuela i added the ban and asked @Jedi Friend: to paint venezuela red in the map with a ban However @Kwamikagami: quoted

The Court ruled that the Constitution does not prohibit same-sex de facto unions, but also does not require their recognition.[6]

And so he reverted the venezuela ban from the map but its lgbt right page still lists the ban so any idea please?!! AdamPrideTN (talk) 23:46, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up re. Mongolia. Re. Venezuela, could you link to where I said that, so I can check the ref again? — kwami (talk) 00:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kwamikagami: hi Its in here

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:State_recognition_of_same-sex_relationships_(South_America).svg#mw-jump-to-license In the history of that on may 29, 2019 days after @Jedi Friend: did so on per this request on his talk page from me dated May 17, 2019

Hello As i was reviewing both Venezuela pages of lgbt rights and recognition of same-sex unions It seems clearly that Same-sex marriage and de facto union constituionally banned since 1999

The Constitution of Venezuela, adopted in 1999, defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman, thus constitutionally banning same-sex marriage.[4] Article 77 of the Constitution reads as follows:[5]

Marriage between a man a woman, which is based on free consent and absolute equality of rights and obligations of the spouses, is protected. A stable de facto union between a man and a woman which meets the requirements established by law shall have the same effects as marriage.

Also, there is no legal recognition of same-sex couples explicitly in Venezuelan law.

Of course all of this is as yet because there are positive news about change but as u know with the crisis there and everything i think all of that will be delayed and i doubt gay marriage will be a priority there

so can u please fix this map

Recognition of same-sex unions in South America

  Marriage

  Other type of partnership

  Country subject to IACHR ruling

  Unrecognized

  Constitution limits marriage to opposite-sex couples

  Same-sex sexual activity illegal, though penalties not enforced

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To reflect that Venezuela is also red too as both Paraguay and Bolivia

Thank you

U said on the wiki commons map dated May 29, 2019

Reverted to version as of 14:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC) please see talk, start new thread if sources contradict it

And so i went to talk pages And i am sorry i dont know what talk u refered to in that Do anyway in LGBT rights in Venezuela page i kept the ban info Then if u see the history of recognition of same-sex unions in Venezuela page u will see that @Ron 1987: (which he always ignores me and never respond to any of my talks but that's ok, and if he thinks should be elsewhere that's ok too) added and correct it by sources in the last days.

So it is only still the map thing A pity that Mr. @Jedi Friend: said he is now taking a vacation and will be back soon. We can wait for him to respond in the coming days if thats better, but for me and Mr. @Jedi Friend: and maybe Mr. @Ron 1987: all agree that Venezuela should be painted red with a ban for now as u know the political crisis there for now.

Also what do u think of Mr @Ron 1987: saying that the ban of Mongolia is not true and him reverting that. Hope i can get ur input soon Thx, Cheers AdamPrideTN (talk) 12:54, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage law in the United States by state

Hey Ron,

Since SSM is legal in all states, I've changed the 'legal?' columns in the tables to whether the state has overturned their law, which is where the little action there is will now be. Would you mind checking that I didn't get any wrong?

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 22:26, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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Hi,

With the recent SC ruling that SS couples can get alimony etc, recognizing them as domestic partnerships, do you think Japan should be light blue or medium blue on the map? DPs are normally med blue, but there are different conceptions of what a DP is, so I was hesitant to go that far.

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