User talk:Rajoub570

Calligraphy as the image for people[edit]

Please do not use calligraphy as the image for people. MOS:CALLIGRAPHY and related Islam-specific guidelines, and standard guidelines for all of Wikipedia, tell us that it's ok not to have an image at all, and that an image should generally be what the article topic actually is rather than how some anonymous person on the internet chooses to write their name. DMacks (talk) 09:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And if it's like that on Arabic Wikipedia, can't it be like that here too? Rajoub570 (talk) 09:37, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024[edit]

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that in this edit to Tabuk, Saudi Arabia, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 07:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This paragraph seems really strange and not suitable for Wikipedia Rajoub570 (talk) 09:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy editing! Selfstudier (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grossman's chapter in Shomron Studies[edit]

Hi. I'd like to verify your recent edits on demographics and also learn more about migrations into or within the Palestine region (Edit: or, more specifically, the West Bank). I was unsuccessful after some googling to access the book or at least the chapter/article by Grossman you cited, and there isn't an Israeli library near me. So I wonder if you know of any way the book, or at least the article, could be accessed online (preferably for free)? (It doesn't have to be in English; I can read Hebrew as well).

Thank you and have a good day.-- Arpose (talk) 14:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~ Hi Arpose. It's cool to find Wikipedia editors into the same stuff as me! About your question, I got lucky and found an actual copy of the book. Luckily, the Hebrew is pretty straightforward, so you don't need to be an expert. I remember seeing a copy online on Kotar, but I believe it's behind a paywall. Try using this link: https://kotar.cet.ac.il/kotarapp/index/Chapter.aspx?nBookID=100386206&nTocEntryID=100389518. Rajoub570 (talk) 14:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The link is already on my browser history I'm afraid. But thank you for replying. -- Arpose (talk) 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rajoub, and thank you for your many recent additions to Palestinian village articles. It’s always been a subject of great interest for me. A couple questions regarding the Grossman source, since I cannot access it myself:

1. What sources does the author cite for his information about villagers' origins? It seems to be based on oral traditions, and if so, this should at least be noted in our articles.

2. When he says the inhabitants of a particular village originate from this or that place, as with Jinsafut, for example, is he qualifying it as “some”, “many”, or “most” of the village's inhabitants? If so, we need to qualify in our articles as well. Regards, Al Ameer (talk) 15:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for your message. It was a wonderful and extremely interesting thing to do.

The information comes from a very long appendix that follows the article, and includes almost all villages in Palestine mentioned in Ottoman period sources, even those already in ruins in the 19th century. It includes a few demographic and historical details of each village, sometimes in one sentence, and sometimes in an entire paragraph, using sources like Ottoman tax records, Jordanian censuses, previous studies, and the author's own observations. Sometimes, the author mentions specific sources for clan origins, like Couroyer R.P.B., and مصطفى مراد الدباغ (specifically based on بلادنا فلسطين). When the information is described as directly based on oral traditions, I mentioned it too.
Yes, I made sure to use the exact same qualifications he used. See for example Rummanah, Faqqua, and Meithalun.

Rajoub570 (talk) 17:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prior accounts[edit]

Have you used any other account on Wikipedia? nableezy - 14:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nableezy I don’t think he’s Tombah : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FIsraeli_humanitarian_aid_to_Gaza&diff=1198222520&oldid=1198197178 Wafflefrites (talk) 15:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also @Nableezy this user’s user page says he is from Palestine and is Muslim. Wafflefrites (talk) 16:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I didn't use another account on Wikipedia. Why? Rajoub570 (talk) 09:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your editing reminds me of a banned editor who has since resorted to sockpuppetry. nableezy - 09:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

banned user who may have resorted to sock puppetry. I think you only identified one other user as him. I don’t agree with the other one you identified. The other one didn’t seem as knowledgeable about genetics of Jews.

Rajoub, I think nableezy is suspicious because you have edited many of the same pages as a banned user, and you have recently made significant contributions to an article the banned user created (Origin of the Palestinians). Wafflefrites (talk) 14:32, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really know how to respond. I'm sure I'm not the only Palestinian on Wikipedia who is interested in my history and my religion. Rajoub570 (talk) 14:36, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wafflefrites you can obfuscate all you like, but Tombah has socked repeatedly and had multiple socks blocked. I’m not too concerned about convincing you of anything, but I’ll be opening an SPI about this soon. nableezy - 14:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought Tombah was Jewish from Israel and this one is Muslim from Palestine. I wasn’t aware that Tombah repeatedly socked. I do believe AHJ repeatedly socked.

It can be hard to verify who people are online. I’m not sure editing the same pages always means two people are the same person. They could be reading from the same history books. Wafflefrites (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And if I say I am Jesus Christ risen again does that make it true? Anyway, there’s a bridge to Brooklyn I’m offering for sale at my user talk page, if you’d like to discuss anything with me meet me there. I’d rather not continue this here. nableezy - 15:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Nabeel, What is SPI? Rajoub570 (talk) 15:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My username is Nableezy, but you can see here. nableezy - 17:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I was wrong, and I apologize for the intrusion. nableezy - 13:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thanks for letting me know. Rajoub570 (talk) 16:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Woohoo! 1 point for me, 0 points for nableezy! I have read of David Grossman too. He wrote “Rural Arab Demography and Early Jewish Settlement in Palestine” [1] Wafflefrites (talk) 02:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

adding material with no source[edit]

Why are you adding material with a citation needed as here for example? nableezy - 16:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still asking this question, why are you adding material and including a cn tag? nableezy - 14:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I translated this from Arabic Wikipedia. Did I do anything wrong? By the way, are you an administrator or something? If not, why are you tracking my edits? You apologized for the intrusion, but now you are doing it again. Rajoub570 (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve written about a number of mosques in Egypt and I watch those pages, I am not tracking your edit but I saw an addition that included a citation needed in it. If you do not have a source for something you should not be adding it to an article. nableezy - 16:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is the kind of stuff you're supposed to discuss on the article's talk page. Please leave my page for urgent, personal stuff only. Rajoub570 (talk) 16:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The actual edit yes, for an article talk page, the behavior of not following WP:V is for a user talk page, but thats no problem, next time I can skip the discuss an issue with a user so that it doesnt escalate beyond a polite exchange on a user talk page if you insist. nableezy - 16:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]