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Your submission at Articles for creation: Rachel Cline (July 21)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Taking Out The Trash was:

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Notable people who have edited Wikipedia). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you.

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Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for your quick review. If you look at the citations I included, they do meet the criteria for notable person. Certainly I am as notable as many other novelists who have Wikipedia pages (I noticed this while reviewing the Literature list on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oberlin_College_and_Conservatory_people.) The "waiting a few years" strategy has not worked, at least, not since 2004. Please advise? Thank you. RachelClineWriter (talk) 15:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)RachelClineWriter[reply]

Hello RachelClineWriter. Can I infer from your comment, and your conflict of interest disclosure on your userpage, that you are the person about whom you created the draft article? If so, please have a look at Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for authors and also the guideline for autobiographies, if you have not done so already. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 00:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again, I did review all the relevant advice. I believe I warrant inclusion. 71.167.189.210 (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for your quick review. If you look at the citations I included, they do meet the criteria for notable person and I disclosed the potential conflict. Certainly I am as notable as many other novelists who have Wikipedia pages (I noticed this particularly while reviewing the subset to which I belong: those listed under "Literature" on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oberlin_College_and_Conservatory_people.) The "waiting a few years" strategy has not worked, at least, not since 2004. Can you please take another look at my proposed bio on the above basis? Thank you. RachelClineWriter (talk) 71.167.189.210 (talk) 00:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RachelClineWriter! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Rachel Cline (July 24)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CurryTime7-24 were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission is not suitable for Wikipedia. Please read 'What Wikipedia is not' for more information.

The comment the reviewer left was:

WP:PROMO

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CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your review. I see that a lot of information--some inaccurate--that was added to my draft does seem like self-promotion, but the basic facts I originally posted (the three books I have written, and the articles written by and about me/my work in publications with reliable fact-checking (The LA Times, The NY Times, The New York Review of Books) do establish that the author Rachel Cline is notable. Is it possible to revert to the shorter version and try again? Thank you. RachelClineWriter (talk) 20:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)RachelClineWriter[reply]

So are you Rachel Cline? You wrote in the third person. 331dot (talk) 21:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am. As I mentioned I disclosed the conflict. RachelClineWriter (talk) 21:23, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have done my best to remove the promotional material and items erroneously added that were sourced to my own website. What's there now is pretty clean, I think. RachelClineWriter (talk) 21:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let me take a look tomorrow morning (PDT). Will be busy for the rest of today. Thanks for replying. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:47, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Rachel Cline has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Rachel Cline. Thanks! CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rachel Cline (October 7)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Spinster300 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Kindly add more details and citations about why the subject is notable in her life and career, and not just coverage on her books. This article should be primarily about the subject herself, and secondarily about her books and notable works. Sources published by the subject herself do not count towards establishing the notability of her life and career, and they are unacceptable to prove notability and can only be used to prove trivial facts (vide citations #2–6). Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Spinster300 (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Rachel Cline[edit]

Hello, RachelClineWriter. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Rachel Cline".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 14:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]