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On 31 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article $456,000 Squid Game In Real Life!, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that MrBeast's Squid Game re-enactment was described as "perverse" and a misunderstanding of the original? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/$456,000 Squid Game In Real Life!. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, $456,000 Squid Game In Real Life!), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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Make pages easy to scroll throught

Pls review Research:Which parts of an article do readers read Moxy- 00:39, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

@Moxy: The design goes from 3 columns on wide screens to one on narrow ones. My design is more compact than the status quo on desktop... But there is a middle range (tablet, kindle, vertical monitor) where it displays one column and its the "scrolling nightmare" you had described. I'm going to fix this and put the design back on the page (if you revert it I guess we'll go to talk).
Also the link you sent is for articles, not navigation pages, so I don't see how its comparable. If a page is more enticing and illustrated, readers are more likely to stay on it and click links than the blank wall we currently have. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 00:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Septermber GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2023 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the September 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

David Thomsen: Prolific Wikipedian and Guild member David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) died in November 2022. He was a regular copy editor who took part in many of our Drives and Blitzes. An obituary was published in the mid-July issue of The Signpost. Tributes can be left on David's talk page.

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Thanks for your eyes!

The draft is Draft:The Joy of Music (album). I appreciate it! Panini! • 🥪 20:43, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

No worries! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 20:46, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

The song-writing process

Just in case I have any further questions.

  • I'm very thankful for your tag dropping, as you did with Forbes. The video game project has a list for this so I've never really had to worry about credibility. The author in question has a description that reads "I am a freelance music journalist based in Nashville and serve as a country contributor at Forbes. My byline has appeared in Billboard, Country Weekly, CMA Close Up, Marie Claire, MTV, Rolling Stone and Sounds Like Nashville. For 10 years, I have been covering the country music scene in New York and Nashville where I’ve interviewed the biggest names in the genre..." I don't see any credentials such as degrees. Would you say this person source has validity? I shouldn't have too much issue replacing it regardless. Panini! • 🥪 00:22, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
  • @Panini!: Hey! Firstly, I'd like to note that WikiProject Albums has its own list of sources, which can be located at WP:A/S. And try to check the standard WP:RSP for most unclear sources (or get the highlight script if you don't already!).
  • I am honestly not very good at assessing whether or not an author is a subject matter expert. The articles in reputable publications are a great sign. This is what policy says on it: Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. and Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer. Arguably, the source should be removed because what it sources talks about living people. But on the other hand, it's an interview so the interviewer/publisher doesn't matter as much. I would maybe stick to including it, but its murky. Maybe ask for advice on Discord haha. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 00:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
    I didn't know that script exists. That should save me some time! Panini! • 🥪 23:59, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
    Great! — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 03:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
  • I pretty much got all of the background information out there in the article. It's very humble in size but it's still larger than usual because album article's don't really get good background treatment.
What's your go-to way of getting the information for those track listing tables? And do they need to be sourced? Video game articles follow the WP:PLOTCITE rule (the video game itself if the source so the plot section doesn't need to be sourced), so I'm curious if the track listings follow a similar criteria. Panini! • 🥪 20:42, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I usually just grab them from Spotify or whatever third-party site (they generally aren't a point of contention, unlike genres for example). For sourcing, in practice I don't find it matters whether they are sourced. If you're bringing the article to DYK/GA, someone might care, (but all four of my album GAs have it unsourced). The official link is WP:TRACKLISTING, which doesn't say you have to source it. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 20:52, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
  • Where can I look for info relating to the commercial success/charts numbers for the album and music? Panini! • 🥪 16:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
    Unfortunately, I may not be helpful in this because I tend to have written about more obscure/indie albums that haven't charted. WP:CHARTS may help. I found that the album charted on two Billboard charts: Billboard 200 at 189, and Top Album Sales at 17. [1] — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:07, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

The Microphones discography

I'm repeating this from my summary: the box set page (official label site, bandcamp) states "This is final. To commemorate and tombstone 25 years of this intermittently-awake recording project, we made this chunk." that isn't an implication, that is openly stating that the project is dead. dawnbails (talk) 20:17, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

The reliable secondary source interprets it with an edge of uncertainty (he "seemingly implied"). I'm alright with your version because yeah it probably is final. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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