User talk:Otter Man

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Drascombe (dinghy)[edit]

Your new article Drascombe (dinghy) is basically empty and I have proposed that it be deleted unless it is improved to contain some actual content. Please either fill it out somewhat within 5 days or it may be deleted. For future reference, you can create "works in progress" in a user sandbox like User:Colinwatt/Sandbox before moving them to be a real article. —Dgies^t c 08:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first time I have tried to edit anything on Wikipedia. I am finding it hard going even though I have programmed in many languages and markups all my life. The most frustrating thing is trying to find help. I have no idea how to find out what {{helpme}} is about. I tried searching but nothing came up. How do I find help? Otterman 20:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What {{helpme}} is about is you can put it on this page, without those <code> and <nowiki> parts and it will flag you as someone requesting help and someone will respond here. Now that you got my attention anyway, what do you need help with specifically? —Dgies^t c 20:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In general, I am finding the Help system hard to use, probable because there doesn't seem to be one. I am used to software and languages with a built-in help system where I can search for a word and find out what it means. Otterman 11:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think your problem is that there is a help guide on Wikipedia, but not a searchable help system because the site's search function is first and foremost an encyclopedia search. You might be more comfortable searching the site for MediaWiki, which is the software Wikipedia uses. One (advanced) caveat: MediaWiki has many extensions, not all of which are installed on Wikipedia; you can see the list at Special:Version. If you have more specific questions, just ask on my talk page. —Dgies^t c 16:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had a quick look at your sandbox, and it's good work. You may want to complete it before posting into mainspace, but it would surely pass muster as is. I have couple of Drascombe images which I was thinking of uploading into Wiki Commons for the existing stub. I'll let you know where they are when I've done so - possibly this weekend. Let me know if you want help with anything else in the meantime. Regards, Ben MacDui (Talk) 23:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John L Watkinson[edit]

You wondered what happened to this article. It appears to have been deleted. You may be able to contact the admin who deleted it to get back the content and then work on it in a sandbox (like you are apparently doing for other content). HTH (Nuggetboy) (talk) (contribs) 20:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From the deletion log (available here) Kafziel deleted it with the justfication "no context, no notability asserted" —Dgies^t c 20:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your sandbox[edit]

Your Drascombe article currently in User:Colinwatt/Sandbox looks good enough to put into the main encyclopedia. It asserts the notability of the subject and has references. When you are ready, please use the page move function to preserve the full edit history, or ask me if you need more help. —Dgies^t c 17:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to move it but got "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists,"

I need an administrator (Nothing is simple) Are you one? Otterman 21:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not, but I put in a request over at Wikipedia:Requested moves. —Dgies^t c 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So who are you? Otterman

I started following this because on new page patrol I saw you making an empty skeleton article and we have a policy on deleting empty articles. Since you seemed to have constructive intentions, I kept an occasional eye on your progress. I'm glad to see you managed to turn it into a suitable article. Drop me a line if you ever need help. —Dgies^t c 01:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So I filed at Wikipedia:Requested moves but someone is being stubborn on rather thin procedural grounds. Escalating through process, I have nominated the original article for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drascombe so that it may be deleted to make way for your article. —Dgies^t c 08:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: The above comment of mine was rather uncivil of me to the other editor involved and I regret it. Getting annoyed is no reason to violate WP:CIVIL. —Dgies^t c 15:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hornet's nest. If I had just copy and pasted the text from User:Colinwatt/Sandbox to Drascombe would anybody have noticed? Otterman 21:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know, and I'm not going to touch this one anymore. Either use your best judgment, or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk and get advice from anyone but me or SMcCandlish. —Dgies^t c 21:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

On February 28, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Drascombe, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

This message was delivered to me but probably of more interest to you. —Dgies^t c 06:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Acceptance at last. Otterman 07:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of 1939 MG TA[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of 1898 Panhard et Levassor[edit]

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1912 Wolseley Type M5 moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, 1912 Wolseley Type M5, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ... discospinster _talk 16:13, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:1912 Wolseley Type M5[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:1912 Wolseley Type M5[edit]

Hello, Otter Man. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "1912 Wolseley Type M5".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:53, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 2023[edit]

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Concern regarding Draft:Ampthill castle[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Ampthill castle[edit]

Hello, Otter Man. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ampthill castle".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:30, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]