User talk:Natanieluz

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Updating at Commons

At Commons:File:COVID-19 Outbreak Cases in Poland.svg there's a button "Upload a new version of this file". Keeping to svg format, for example using inkscape and then uploading the new svg source file, rather than exporting to png, seems reasonable to me - this makes it easier for others to update later on. Probably you didn't really need the welcome above, but since you don't seem to have made many edits, it might help anyway. Boud (talk) 22:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Apologies for style

Just an apology in advance in case you think some of my comments sound arrogant. :) Everyone has a chance to learn, and my own edits are not perfect. I don't want to discourage you from editing. Boud (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

no, you dont need to apologise. I am pretty new here so - to be sure - I didn't even know that there is sooo many rules here, but (e.g. thanks to You) I am able to correct my mistakes and with time be better and better. And thank you very much for all your tips and suggestions. :) Natanieluz (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Natanieluz for helping and editing Poland 2050. It is very much appreciated to help me get all the facts right. I hope everyone will see more of your edits on the page in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szczeszek2035 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

@Szczeszek2035: Sure! ,Natanieluz (talk) 13:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Case Count Task Force

Hi Natanieluz! We've started the Case Count Task Force to gather information about the most reliable sources for each country and to coordinate updates. I hope you find the info useful, and feel free to update it directly. If you think you can commit to update one or more countries frequently, you can add your username to the corresponding country in the table (see the Spain row for an example). Best, --MarioGom (talk) 21:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Closing the map issue

I put the edit needed on the talk page so that someone neutral (not me, not Ythlev) can make the edit and close the map proposal. Noone is fully neutral, but anyone apart from me and Ythlev is, at least, somewhat independent of us. Boud (talk) 14:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Boud: thx, Natanieluz (talk) 14:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello and welcome Natanieluz! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland, joining the project, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with our community.

--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Article editors register?

"You are not editing here" - this is your quote from edit history of 2020 Polish presidential election. I may not know, but is there on English Wikipedia list of official editors of the article or something like that? -MikołajZ (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@MikołajZ: You are making big changes there, and like I said you recently started to edit there, so how you know which way of representations of that polls is better? I have undo your changes then you have made that changes again... --Natanieluz (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

"You recently started to edit there". Really? It sounds like "this is my football, go away". If my change is big, so is yours. As I've checked, you are not very experienced on Wikipedia, so don't tell others what should they do, please. -MikołajZ (talk) 16:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

PS - I have undo your changes then you have made that changes again... -MikołajZ (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@MikołajZ:Ok really? First of all - you have 33 edits on Wikipedia, I have more than 1,800 and you are saing that "As I've checked, you are not very experienced on Wikipedia, so don't tell others what should they do, please. " - really? :), and no -my intention wasn't "this is my football, go away" - if you felt that way - I am sorry. --Natanieluz (talk) 16:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Nice reasearch ;) 33 on English Wikipedia, maybe check Polish one? You did exactle the same as me. You did a "big" change without asking for it in the talk. -MikołajZ (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@MikołajZ: We weren't talking about Polish Wikipedia? And like you said "Table pattern you used is from Polish Wikipedia, we are editing an English one here. There are rules like articles should be made in a similar pattern, while you did the opposite" :DD, but as of Polish Wikipedia - sure good for you :) --Natanieluz (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I think this "topic" is closed, we have somekind of agreement there, thx ;)) --Natanieluz (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

In the last one you are actually right, it sounded like hypocrisy. However, as I've stated before - we both edited article our way without issuing our proposals in the talk. None of us should be privileged. Discussion upon my edit is continued on the article talk, so I don't need to add anything here. Thanks for fast reply and taking care of the topic though ;) -MikołajZ (talk) 16:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Yea you too, take care :D--Natanieluz (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Updates to a Polish-American's BLP

Hi Natanieluz, I noticed you are part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland and have a concept to run by you. I posted some proposed content additions to the talk page of a Polish-American Businessman's BLP. Would you be open to review these additions and the references? If you approve, would you post the content due to my COI. What are your thoughts on this?--Chefmikesf (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey! @Chefmikesf: sure, no problem. I just need exact links to these pages, to navigate more 'comfortably'. ;) Natanieluz (talk) 13:54, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey Natanieluz, Thanks for your interest! The article I am working on is Darius Adamczyk. I have outlined the specific requests on the talk page. Can you let me know if you need more information? Best,--Chefmikesf (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take a look at it and let you know Natanieluz (talk) 17:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Natanieluz, I will lookout for your feedback.--Chefmikesf (talk) 18:06, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I looked through yours changes on sandbox User:Chefmikesf/sandbox/Darius Adamczyk and yours "2020 Article Updates" on talk page. I think it's very good, I also search for other information about him that could be added, but I saw that already pretty much (of available) information about him has been already added to Wikipedia (for eg. [1] and [2]). So what's next? Natanieluz (talk) 16:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Natanieluz, Thank you for your review of the suggested updates. I agree there is not a lot of coverage currently about Darius, but he is fairly new to his role. As for next steps, can you add the updates to the article?--Chefmikesf (talk) 17:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Chefmikesf:,  Done Natanieluz (talk) 17:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Natanieluz: Much appreciated. I may have another concept to run by you. There may not be a ton of content to add to Darius's bio, but some of his leadership initiatives may be relative for the companies article. Would you be open to reviewing those additions in the near future?--Chefmikesf (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Chefmikesf: Sure, no problem :),Natanieluz (talk) 18:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Honeywell Article Clean up

Hi @Natanieluz:, On the Honeywell article, I added a similar proposal for the suggested edits. The last two paragraph's in the 2015-Present section are out of date. Second, the format of list of events in 2019 is starting to get unruly. The new version aligns formatting with the manual of style. Can you take a look at Number 2, for feedback and your thoughts? If it looks OK, I hope to replace the "Current Content" with the "Rewritten Content". Let me know if you have any questions!--Chefmikesf (talk) 20:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Chefmikesf: Looks good  Done, Natanieluz (talk) 10:52, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Natanieluz: Thanks for the help on the article. I added one more small update, #3 on the article's talk page. Do you mind taking a look?--Chefmikesf (talk) 22:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2020 Polish protests

On 28 October 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2020 Polish protests, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Nice work! Thanks for making it Main Page-worthy! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Sejm

Witaj, Wybór Polska nie jest kołem satelickim PiS-u - zgodnie z dekleracjami lidera (por. https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/kraj/girzynski-wrozy-pis-owi-utrate-wladzy-wstrzasniemy-elektoratem/0tg92zs), w kolumnę confidence & supply dodajemy partie, posiadające umowy z rządem, lub będące w bezpośrednim związku z nim (np. Demokratyczna Partia Unionistyczna po wyborach w 2017, czy Vänsterpartiet 20-krotnie). Kukiza, czy Kołakowskiego i Pawłowską możemy pod to podpiąć, ale nie Wybór Polska, tylko ze względu na spójność światopoglądową. Pozdrawiam, Qba0202 (talk) 18:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qba0202: Tak, masz rację. Ostatnie wypowiedzi na to wskazują, na początku byłem innego zdania - również trochę to pojawienie się Girzyńskiego na konwencji Porozumienia Gowina wskazywało, że jednak JEST "kołem satelickim PiSu" jednakże jego późniejsze wypowiedzi już wskazywały na coś innego. Natanieluz (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Opinion polling for next Polish election

You keep on reverting my edit. The addition of the event line about a protest is not within the scope of opinion polling articles. I clearly have stated that I disagree with adding this and asked you to open up a discussion. Instead you reverted again. You do not have WP:Consensus . and please stay civil. --FantinoFalco (talk) 17:51, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@FantinoFalco: First of all - you have started reverting my edits, not me. "The addition of the event line about a protest is not within the scope of opinion polling articles." - that's quite interesting coz we already have things not "100% political" but 100% politcal related - like Women's protest. The situation with TVN is the same as that. I have no idea why you want to censor it when we have similar things...

"I clearly have stated that I disagree with adding this and asked you to open up a discussion. Instead, you reverted again." - If you disagree with this changes, why you simply didn't start a discussion but rather started deleted :those edits?

I see you've decided to delete it once again. We don't have consensus, you shouldn't change that again. That's "civil"? Natanieluz (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes I reverted this because it is getting out of hand. Women's protests can go as well, if you ask me. TVN protests are not related to the election or the parties running. Compare with other opinion polling articles for other countries.

You don't seem to understand. That you don't have consensus to add this content. You need consent under the policies. I don't need consensus to delete content which is not fitting to this article. Your comment "So open it... You're the only one who doesn't "like" this changes." is aggressive and not polite and most of all arrogant. You need to open a discussion to find out what other editors think --FantinoFalco (talk) 21:25, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

The situation around TVN caused the government to collapse. What's more political than this?

I see that you still don't understand. Several users with me added and edited the mention of TVN, then you came and started to remove it. You're the only one who doesn't "like" this changes. You need to open a discussion to find out what other editors think, not come and start removing it because you don't like it. Natanieluz (talk) 10:30, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Late updates

Do you know why this source occasionally posts daily updates later than usual? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 04:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@LSGH: Hey! There's couple reasons why sometimes we have daily covid report later than should be (a report about new covid cases is scheduled every day at 10.30am; a report about other covid related things (quarantines, number of tests performed is usually published between 10 and 11 o'clock)):

-delay from central "collecting system" that's - gov covid page (so far we've had a few system crashes),

-delay caused by local sanepid unit (local health department) (mostly quarantines data and tests)

-delay (mostly after days off) from local hospitals and clinics (hospitals do not report about deaths on days off- why? possibly due to insufficient medical staff)

-covid test reporting delay from POZ (basic/primary healthcare). Natanieluz (talk) 15:28, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I see. At least, they still commit to reporting at the same time almost every day. How about those days when the number of recoveries decreases? What I see is that they are doing work on their database. Do those decreases happen because of the system crashes or not? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 12:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@LSGH: not only number of recoveries decreases (when it shouldn't) but also other "things" like number of people in quarantine. Why is this happening? Mess. Not enough people to handle everything. For this reason, we still have strange "anomalies" in official data. Do those decreases happen because of the system crashes or not? Very good question... Unfortunately, I am not able to answer this question with 100% certainty, but it seems to me that it is the consequence of some negligence at various levels of information provision.
We have a spreadsheet created by @micalrg about covid-19 in Poland with every possible data (in polish). Here you can see exactly on what day what number (cases, quarantine, tests) is "odd" or missing. Here's a link: COVID-19 in Poland Natanieluz (talk) 16:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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