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Retitle article

It would seem that I made a spelling mistake when I recently created an article - Randon Thoughts (Koolism album) it should be Random Thoughts (Koolism album) - not certain how to change the title once the article is created - could you do it for me. Dan arndt (talk) 06:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Too easy. Just press the "move" button at the top menu. That'll move it to its new title at Random Thoughts (Koolism album) as well as preserving the edit history. It also changes the old name to a redirect, which can be deleted by an admin (and which I did). —Moondyne click! 06:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Too easy - will remember - hopefully won't be a next time. Dan arndt (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

With your thousands of edits and hundreds of articles, I'm surprised it hasn't come up for you before. That's a credit to you. —Moondyne click! 14:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

ooooops!

Thanks for fixing my silly mistake in creating a category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Bart Versieck

I noticed you blocked Bart Versieck/Extremely sexy for a week due to his editing of others comments. He has been doing this before, even after being blocked for it, but he hasn't done it since he has been warned the second time. I simply think that we should give Mr. Versieck another chance since, other than this, I have had a good impression of him and he does a lot of valuable work. Simply pu, I think he will stop, and if he does it again I would suggest another block. Editor of the wiki 02:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Second time? More likely 5th or 6th time if you read back through his archives and his block log. Obviously I don't have the same faith in him as you do. —Moondyne click! 02:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Old Gaol Museum

Am I correct in assuming that the old goal in Toodyay didnt actually hold you namesake as it wasnt built until 1864, but should the article have a see also on Moondyne Joe. When there taking picts yesterday the place was closed so I could get any inside stuff. Gnan garra 11:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Some challenges there heh! Also see Connor's Mill. H. is the expert on MJ, but according to this [1] he escaped from the police lockup in 1861, which prompted the building of the gaol. I've not been inside the museum but have driven past a few times. Moondyne 12:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting as the article says something else and doesnt mention MJ hence the Q on adding the see also section. Oh well, looks like another drive is on the cards I didnt photo that presumed that Toodyay would have had a few already. The Goal picts were for another purpose but the modern additions of power lines and landscaping just detracted too much for that purpose. Gnan garra 13:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

If you do go out again, a pic of Extracts Weir for Avon Descent would be good - there may even be water in the river at the mo'. (and pic of the mill also). Moondyne 13:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Extracts was running nicely on the weekend but it was raining heavier than what Im happy to take photos in, I'll wait until closer to event may get lucky be able include some people training. Gnan garra 13:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Last year (or maybe yr before), wife and I took a drive out there on a Sunday for the Moondyne Festival. It was a hoot with reenactments of MJ's escape and trial. Recommended and great fun if you can stand the crowds. Perhaps a meetup venue.... Moondyne 13:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 22 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kay Goldsworthy, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel (talk) 01:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit

I have followed the rucus involving the two cricket people. I added a bit to JamesJJames because he has creatively edited his page. You seem to have got rid of this. In previous cases I have noted that folks who edit with the venom of JJJ get a warning from the likes of yourself. Please explain as I am new Longrunup (talk) 12:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

The issue with JamesJJames and another user has nothing to do with you. Leave it alone and stop trying to inflame the situation. Moondyne 12:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I kind of wonder what business it was of yours. Anyhow, taking the tip from the academics - I'll leave you anoracks aloneLongrunup (talk) 17:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Moondyne. I am getting sick and tired of this. Please see Admin noticeboard. Regards. --JamesJJames (talk) 08:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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I knew my adding was reverted and saw the reasoning, so you did not need to bother to let me know of it. If I had added just one or two country banners into the talk page, he or she who reverted my edit would point out on my action? Well, I don't think so. The countries are all mentioned in the article, and the byproducts from shrimp farm are also strongly associated with it. I thought the countries deserve to share the FA article. --Appletrees (talk) 17:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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gmail

about to head your way Satu Suro 12:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

For the tidy up - I have my eyes on the south west tas world heritage thingo next using the quick cat is a breeze Satu Suro 01:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Edna Parker, supercentenarians and years in age and days

Hi Moondyne,

I was wondering if you thought that ages in years and days on individuals of living people would be a violation of WP:V. I just woke up, so I'll expand upon this later, but my basic thought is that since we cannot verify every day that they survived until the next day every day (unless we happen to be getting daily updates about person). Indeed, often times a person has been dead a couple days before the news breaks so, in many cases, we are presenting unverifiable information that is false as a fact (this has been particularly true of articles such as List of the verified oldest people). Of course, it's a thin line to walk since, in terms of categories such as Category:Living people, we have to assume alive unless they're 90+ and haven't been heard from in more than a few years. So obviously in the span between when a person dies and when we are able to update the page, the "living" category is false. But in the latter case, the greater "sin" is listing someone as not alive in the absence of other information. I guess my big point is that with years AND days, if the person's death goes unnoticed for a few days, we are more pointedly and specifically wrong, and I do feel that it's a bit unnecessary on the pages of the people themselves.

The reason I'm bringing this up now is the slippery slope. I didn't mind it so much on Edna Parker's page, since it does sort of make sense to measure the OLDEST person in the world in years and days (since days can make the distinction), but my problem is where to draw the line because you could (although I wouldn't) argue that the same argument applies to the difference between second and third. But when does it stop? If I went to, say, Ron Jeremy, and tried to use "age in years and days" I'd be reverted in the blink of an eye. But even if I accept that we should use "years in age and days" in certain cases, where do we draw the line? Cheers, CP 15:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see that its such a problem. Certainly if a person is notable by virtue of their age (and hence days is significant), then why not? The risk of a subject dieing and the event going unnoted for several days or weeks is, IMO, offset by the advantage of the information being up to date whilst they are alive. Refer meta:Wiki is not paper#Timeliness and ease of editing. All we can do is present information which is verifiable and as current as is possible. Certainly Ron Jeremy's article would have no business with that template as that's not why he's notable. That's my opinion, but to be honest I don't feel all that strongly about it and wouldn't be inclined to go into battle over the issue. Moondyne 07:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Pardon the comment but oh how ambigious, just think a person born in New Zealand on the 30th could be younger than a person born in the UK on the 29th, but thats up to the experts to decide we just report the result, as for relevance of counting days its only a guide and when a person passes are record or passes altogether then experts will provide official verifiable details. ie WP:IAR for the living. Gnan garra 09:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, that does seem to make sense but, as always, it's the cases on the margins that I have the questions about. How do we determine if a person is notable by virtue of their age? Obviously, Edna Parker and many of the people here would be, but what about someone like Leila Denmark. She's someone that was well known, then happened to get very old, but the getting very old certainly increased her fame. A strict limit, say, everyone 110 is eligible for age in years and days, might work, but I can see problems with it as well. I guess I'm just wondering where the line gets drawn for people who obviously do have a good case (ie Edna Parker) and those who obviously do not (ie Ron Jeremy). The line is drawn somewhere halfway between Leila Denmark or Claude Choules. Anyhow, this is all rhetorical, I'll stop bothering you with all this and simultaneously end my "no age in years and days" crusade. Thanks for the response! Cheers, CP 00:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll add that in my time here, I've discovered and fixed a few articles which have recorded a person as living but who was actually dead. And these are people notable for reasons other than their age. Moondyne 12:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

---- gentlemen please

its am at this time ? Satu Suro 09:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Moondyne/WA - at that one Satu Suro 13:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks but we hav am for pm still Satu Suro 10:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Not from where I'm sitting. Have you double checked your PC clock isn't 12 hours out? Moondyne 11:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah ok im out of the clouds adding to the serpentine monastery art my mac - it says 7.48 pm. Odd Satu Suro 11:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, very odd. Remove it if you like (its syntactically wrong anyway). Moondyne 11:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Nah

Its worth fiddling with -Satu Suro 12:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Notable Rhodes Scholars

Hi Moondyne! (Owyergoin?) I still have "Notable Rhodes Scholars" on my watchlist, and there's been a bit of activity on the Talk page this week. The number of redlinks on the page itself is much the same as in Sept07. However, interestingly (to me), people adding new stuff are adding blue links, so I think you and I are justified in thinking we've had some influence! What's your level of interest/involvement in the page these days? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply, Pdfpdf. Moondyne has been on Wikibreak since the 5th — a real Wikibreak, not one of those wishy-washy Wikibreaks where the breakee still manages to check his talk page every hour or so ;-) We don't expect him back for another week at least; it could be two or three or more. Hesperian 12:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Hesperian. Your information is appreciated! Pdfpdf (talk) 12:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Bart Versieck

Hello Moondyne. I have had to give Bart his three month block for disruptive talk page edits. You can view the details on his talk page. Cheers, CP 00:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Ryan Postlethwaite. Moondyne 03:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

This block has since been shortened to 3 weeks by User:Blueboy96, despite the discussion going on at User talk:Ryan Postlethwaite.--Atlan (talk) 22:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Meh. Moondyne 00:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Back

Welcome back, Gnan garra 07:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

" Hesperian 23:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

A challenge

As a way of saying welcome back at South Fremantle :) Satu Suro 15:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Thanks for that and welome back to the circus :| Satu Suro 02:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Quick question

Hey Moondyne,

I'm bringing this up with you because I'm interested in an informal opinion. Does this user page seem like an attack page to you? I wanted to get a second opinion before I do anything serious, because I might be overreacting, but it seems like it could be trouble, particularly with a picture of the person in question. Cheers, CP 04:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Bizarre. I'm inclined to think it does infringe WP:ATTACK, but wouldn't like to make that call myself. Possibly related to User:Rufus Wobble also. Perhaps a post to WP:AN for wider thoughts. Moondyne 09:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the second opinion! Cheers, CP 05:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

ARIA HoF query

I notice you're a member of WP:AUSMUS, could you clarify a query about Categories for me?

Does every band/solo artist who is inducted into the ARIA Hall of Fame automatically also become an ARIA Award Winner? Or do they have to have won an ARIA award under their own steam to qualify for a CAT as ARIA Award winner?

Since 2005 there's been a semi-separation of the Award cermonies and the waters are getting murky.

For example: last year Nick Cave entered HoF at the ARIA Awards but Hoodoo Gurus (& other acts) entered HoF earlier in the year at the separate HoF induction. Cave, of course, had won a number of ARIAs prior to his HoF whereas HG, as a band, had not. Should Gurus also have a CAT for Aria Award winner since they're HoF?

Recently I've been working (with Dan arndt) on articles about HoF band/artists and have noticed some have both CATs but some have only the HoF inductee CAT, hence the question.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Another anomaly: Nellie Melba bless her! She manages to be an ARIA Award winner but not HoF (according to CATs), she died some 50+ years before any ARIA Award ceremony. So should she only have the ARIA HoF or both?Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm starting to think I've opened up a can of worms... Now there's Billy Thorpe vs Billy Thorpe & the Aztecs. Which act was actually inducted in 1991? From what I can tell it was Thorpie alone who was inducted, but his article has no HoF CAT (it doesn't even mention the HoF, which it should even if the award went to the group): the CAT is on the BT & Aztecs page which mentions that Thorpie was inducted - it does not say the band was. Should the CAT be on both articles or only on BT?

I'm sorry if I'm throwing all these at you but I would like some guidelines in this area: I'm keen to see all ARIA HoF articles up to B-class (at least) but am unsure how to proceed with the HoF CAT situation.Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Seems you're busy with RealLife(tm). I've resolved that any ARIA HoF is automatically an ARIA Award winner even if they never won any ARIA award under their own steam. This is supported by current wiki CAT hierarchy: it just seems to have been applied poorly. I've further resolved that the CAT for HoF belongs to BT alone not BT & Aztecs according to ARIA's websites (both ARIA Awards site and the new ARIA HoF site). I will be changing CATs for these articles manually (I don't know how to make a bot). If you or anyone else at WP:AUSMUS objects I'll be happy to change them back.Shaidary cuebiyar (talk) 08:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

"...any ARIA HoF is automatically an ARIA Award winner even if they never won any ARIA award under their own steam." That would be a summation I'd support. Sorry for the tardy response but I've been off-wiki for a while. All the best. Moondyne 11:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow

You return and dive into Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/Cleanup listing - hey thats brave! Satu Suro 10:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

not brave, bored. Moondyne 10:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Well if you ever want a tom's to do list of things that are needed help for, and or checking I can send you a list as long as this talk page if you really like :| Satu Suro 11:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The list is not the problem. Moondyne 11:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Point taken at noticeboard and here :| Satu Suro 11:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Cheers.

Moondyne 11:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for woprking out that thread - its hard to keep track of em all at the moment - so Ill return the compliment - to you and him for keeping up with it - thanks for checking my talk :) Satu Suro 10:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The Cloisters, Perth

Were you proposing to create an article for Charles Lefroy as otherwise I'll delete the wiki-link as I was trying to get away from having red links where ever possible. Dan arndt (talk) 09:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Dan, I wasn't, so I'm not particularly bothered if you do. His fullname was Charles Edward Cottrell Lefroy and in 1912 he wrote a short article The Aborigines of Australia : a plea for the remnant [3] and so was probably ahead of his time. Notable? maybe. As I said I don't care either way, but don't see why you're avoiding redlinks. Per WP:RED, Good red links help Wikipedia — they encourage new contributors in useful directions, and remind us that Wikipedia is far from finished. I'm guessing that you wrote the article mainly because you saw a redlink at List of historic buildings in Perth, Western Australia. Anyhow, great work BTW. Moondyne 09:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Touche - you got me there! You're right the reason I created the article was because of the red link so for that reason I'll have to leave it otherwise I'll be hypocritical in my comments. Thanks for the encouragement will see what other historical places I can knock up - looking forward to meeting up at the next Perth catchup. Dan arndt (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

That historical photo of The Cloisters looks great!! Dan arndt (talk) 09:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Maaaate. Hesperian 14:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Moondyne 14:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

So poetic

The above interaction .

Problem area - I started the Coastal regions of Western Australia art about a fortnight after Hesp had started his marine bio region stubs (which still need quite a bit of work) which i hadnt cottoned on to mind you until today :), and so there is the IM thingy which gets complicated when it comes to the zones that I had got from some 2003 material on coastal regions - and there is the potential to have coastal regions understood as by the earlier 2003 coastal manual map, and then the more recent IM thingo - similarly my way of thinking with the whole north west thing is to have a relatively easy grab bag of first a regional art that leads off to the range of the gas fields etc and the complications - thats the way i am thinking - and am hoping over time to do the same with the shark bay material, and will probably go back to the western tas and the south west tas to do the same - an easy to catch general term - and then the complications after that. I hope that explains the logic and thinking - but as we know the actual practice is possibly at a different address :( Satu Suro 06:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm

Bob bottom would think otherwise - rubbish indeed :) - oh well good to see you are taking the initiative in organising the mess that it is Satu Suro 03:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)trust the baker creek becomes a dyk :) looks great - interesting suprises always seem to be up your sleeve Satu Suro 04:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep, thats the plan. Moondyne 04:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent - back to your old form - welcome back then and may the dyks flow like the invective about the varanus hiccup :| Satu Suro 04:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back, Moondyne. I'm glad to see your name popping up on my watchlist again as your presence was greatly missed during your break. :) I hope all is well and that you're taking care of yourself. Sarah 04:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

gmail on that only sorry :( Satu Suro 05:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

That's great, glad to know and I'm just happy you're back from your wikibreak. :) Sarah 06:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you please

Look at the mess that I have created at roadhouse (facility), Roadhouse disambig and roadhouses of wa? It would be apprecited thanks :( its just that i have found out i have just gotta go dig some holes Satu Suro 06:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Thank you very much for that - holes dug - citrus trees in before tonights supposed storm (sic) 06:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Mind you i dont think the history of albania cat is exactly self evident :( Satu Suro 06:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Sorry i could have done that - just was enjoying the few seconds of amusement before the next vndl arrives :| Satu Suro 07:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Bah prefer my more 'please' go donw there variant - :) Satu Suro 07:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

DBGP - or whatever it was an obvious copyvio what a horrible article - it misses out so much - please put the hatchet is you so wish Satu Suro 13:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia: WikiProject Swimming

Hi there, Ive recently joined the WP:WikiProject Swimming team. Im committed to getting on top of the project. Since you have listed yourself as a participant i thought i'd let you know what i've done. Ive got a bot thats going through the relevant catagouries that apply to the project and tagging them with our banner. Ive done all the stub class articles and assessed them automaticlly, and im starting on the 3000 other articles that ive identified. So this will mean that we will have all the articles in the scope of the project together and we can start working on them. So if you have any spare time theres going to be thousands of articles that will need assessing. There are around 2000 articles Just in Stub-Class swimming articles, and most of these will need the importance assessed. I think it's important we get all this assessing done, so we can start working on the articles.

Don't fell pressured to start assessing articles, i just thought that since theres going to be so many articles, you should know that theres heaps of work that needs to be done, ill be trying my best once my exams are finished. Remember many hands make light work.

Cheers Printer222 (talk) 13:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Embassy of Australia in Washington, D.C.

Thanks for the typo fix and creating the Bakers Creek article. There were four red links in the embassy article and I had taken care of three of them. (Dennis Richardson (diplomat), David Stuart (diplomat), & Ben Shearer) I'm not sure if you're familiar with Richardson, but I've add multiple sources to the article's talk page and am planning on making it a GA (or least a good DYK). If you want to look over it once I'm done and see where improvements could be made, I'd appreciate it. If you feel the urge to help expand the article <wink>, that would be nice as well. Cheers! APK ^{yada yada} 14:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied. APK ^{yada yada} 05:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be good

If it could link in with the north west shelf stub - as a regional indicator - the north west stub is enough to get some eds very edgy :) (poor grant had apoplexy over it a few times i think) Satu Suro 15:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC) doh! found the link - sorry about that - hey a good start :) Satu Suro 15:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit conflict]. No worries. Moondyne 15:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

~~Gorgon's gotta be next. Moondyne 15:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)~~ probably not actually. Moondyne 16:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a list which i want to turn into a list of the oil and gas fields of wa which will probably be worth its own category when you realise how many there are - but hey - theres only so many minutes in the day :( Satu Suro 15:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

oh well as a tlk and user page blanker i met earlier yesterday said - whatever :| Satu Suro 16:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

List of natural gas fields, FYI. Moondyne 01:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

what a relief you are back on board, sigh and phew :) - thanks for all that Satu Suro 02:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.ga.gov.au/oceans/rpg_Carnarvon.jsp will predicate how i get to the next step with the north west shelf stub as it indicates very clearly where things are - phew that its so accesible Satu Suro 02:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've seen that. We have Carnarvon basin, Northern Carnarvon Basin, Southern Carnarvon Basin, Exmouth Plateau, Exmouth Sub-basin, Barrow Sub-basin, Dampier Sub-basin and Beagle Sub-basin. Is there a geologist in the house? Here's a timeline. Moondyne 03:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Nope - gone no longer with us - we gotta struggle it out without zamphuor unfortunately he is off elsewhere - :( Satu Suro 03:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC) What would you say the timeline could be used as a separate list/timeline - or in the north west shelf art? Satu Suro 03:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it'd be great as expansion in the NWS article. Moondyne 04:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Also I need oversight at the buswell additions - I might be wrong? Satu Suro 04:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC) I have had that one - up to you or someone else Satu Suro 04:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't see a large problem. Additions seem to be made in good faith and seem to be accurate enough. Refs needed sure, but nothing new there ;). Moondyne 05:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC) as always :( Satu Suro 05:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

NWSV is looking really good - well done moondyne! - its astonishing the wa project has gone so long and we are only getting this stuff up ! Satu Suro 12:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Gridiron in Australia

changed from transcluded page to a link. Moondyne 01:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Geographical template

At cannnig basin i find offensive (having worked as a gfa in the past :( ) - it should be geological template if at all - am about to remove it - trust you agree that geographical template is inappopriate - and hey great work on the basins ! Satu Suro 07:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

The Cliffe

Thanks for the recent edit - was just discussing with SatuSuro that I felt he had added way too many headings - then 'bang' you can and fix it. Am working on an article for the Old Court House, which looks like I'll have to fix up the article on Supreme Court Gardens which are also heritage listed - the work never ends. Dan arndt (talk) 08:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC) Hmm - well the article looks better for it - thats what counts in the end :) Satu Suro 08:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

sigh

after thinking there wasnt one - there is a stub -would you like th honours Canning Basin - or shall i? it needs a bit of help along the way :) Satu Suro 01:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

And here's some more basins, with links. All of this is way out of my league: I don't even know how you'd classify or group them. Most seem to end up at Category:Geology of Western Australia. I'll be leaving this to an expert though. Moondyne 02:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I humbly submit that a suitable category would be Category:Sedimentary basins of Australia. But IAMNAE. Hesperian 05:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you just? In that case ... Moondyne 06:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops :-( Hesperian 14:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Noted. ;) Moondyne 14:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

OK - i wont make any comment either way on that but - cheers Satu Suro 02:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey we're getting to square one with all this stuff - well done! if you want a blow by blow description of the legal issues that emanate in relation to the submerged land acts of the state and commonwealth governments in relation to all this - just let me know "| Satu Suro 13:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Good onya

[4] - well done! Satu Suro 02:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC) got in before below by two minutes :) Satu Suro 03:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

6/19 DYK

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--Bedford ^Pray 02:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article North West Shelf Venture, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done - are you gonna let us see how many you got now? Satu Suro 01:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Nah, its a secret. Moondyne 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Mass Cfr nomination

Hello. I still don t see where it says that for a 'mass nomination' the tagging can t be done first, but your the third concerned contributor, so i ll oblige Mayumashu (talk) 02:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I don t get where you got that. I responded to the two concerned contibutors promptly, informing them as to what was happening, that it was a mass nomination that would take some time to put together. I ve had the other complaint before too, with a mass nomination, that listed cat pages weren t tagged. At any rate, the list is up and I m completing the tagged ones before preceding to tag the remainder before adding them too. Regards Mayumashu (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I see where you re coming from. I did do some general editing after tagging a few and responding to the first concerned contributor, true enough. I see now why you may think I may have abandonned my nomination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nayumashu (talk • contribs) 02:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Power stations

Having looked at some stubs last night - do you think that all power stations should belong to Category:Energy in Western Australia as well? It seems to make sense - but thought id ask first - lso it loks like the cat of stubs of powerstations and the list of powerstations might need a once over as well :( Satu Suro 04:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Crikey, the things I never knew existed. Short answer is yes, I do. Also, the Category:Power stations in Australia could do with sub categories by state, like Category:Power stations in Western Australia etc. I'll do the latter if you like.

I'm working my way through a few books out of my local library at the moment and thinking abt an Energy in Western Australia article (see Energy in Queensland and Energy in Victoria for example). Moondyne 05:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I have on my bookshelf a copy of Cathedrals of power: a short history of the power-generating infrastructure in Western Australia 1912–1999. If you're committed to spending some time in this area, I would be happy to snail-mail it to you. I'd want it back eventually though. Hesperian 05:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a copy somewhere as well if anyone wants one or maybe i should contribute from it once i find it :)

Re the category organisation suggested above - Please -it'd be great if you can - i think tassie is a good set to look at as well as we have complications due to dams and power stations etc - the fact that the journos have a handle on it (was power stuff) for the current crisis and we are caught with just fixing up the basics (hey you doing a great job with that too!) - i reckons anything to show that we know where thevenard is, where all the pipelines are and the various 'subsidiary pipelines is also a critical one - thats in the pdf which i referred to somewhere - will find it later Satu Suro 05:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Remember that the journos have a 100 year head start on us, and they get paid, so don't be too bothered. Thankyou both for the offer, but I may take a rain-check so I can finish the pile I have here first without my little brain melting. Mrs Moondyne has other projects planned also. ;( Moondyne 05:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Well stated and very salient point and no probs no bother - if i see you havent wandered into the power stations of the golden west at some point either art or cat i will probably have a tinkle with an odd bit or two :) if i dont get lost in the foos and boos or mrs sats schemes :) Satu Suro 08:26, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

WAPET

On 21 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article WAPET, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

As always well done - hey that closer to .. the great... Secret Satu Suro 11:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate. Moondyne 12:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

To think we had literally nothing on the oil and gas industry as recent as a week or two ago and now we cannot be held to be slackers in the area - thank you! Satu Suro 12:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Timor gap

I would just say do it - they have been a horrid little pile of rubbish untouched for too long a merge and cleanup would be great - I think i had some idea of keeping them separate a long time ago - cannot even remember the reason apart from the fact - i think i knew of some cites about the the oil fields and australias unbelievably aggressive nature in the creation of the treaty - i never tracked them down at the time - as always its always oil that does that stuff - but hey it needs to happen - thanks for the resolve Satu Suro 08:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll leave it a few days unless someone gets there first. Moondyne 08:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ext link format

Ta - it didnt look right, does now. Satu Suro 14:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC) Tothersiders and outsiders - bah they never know the secrets of henrietta's winter clothing :) Satu Suro 05:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Cape Peron, Point Peron & Peron

Moondyne, I see you have extensive Wiki experience. Do you have a point of view on the following? Is there a way of renaming the two pages to achieve my proposal? or do I have to cut and carry the current information? I see that you created the "Cape Peron, Western Australia" page merely as a re-direct to "Point Peron, Western Australia". I have in mind to reverse this, that is to make the Point Peron page solely a re-direct to the Cape Peron page and to transfer all the information to the Cape Peron page. There is no doubt that the official title of the headland is "Cape Peron" the title recognised by the W. A. Government Land Department ("Landgate") and appearing on official State & Commonwealth maps. There is however a small headland on the south West of the Cape, neither the most Westerly or the most Northerly (or Southerly) point of the Cape, that has been given the name "Point Peron". Literature shows an increasing use of the name Cape Peron and a corresponding decrease in the term Point Peron. The new page would recognise the historical use of the term "Point Peron". By the way I had originally intended to put some substance into the "Peron" suburb page without duplcating the whole Cape Peron page. --Lanyon (talk) 07:09, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Lanyon. What an odd coincidence; I was down there briefly thisarvo, sans camera (grrr). Your move suggestion seems to be a reasonable thing to do for the reasons you said. The Geoscience Gazeteer confirms this also [5]. So I have no objections. You can easily move it yourself in one simple step by hitting the Move button while viewing Point Peron. This will move the edit history to the target (Cape Peron) as well as making Point Peron a redirect. Sing out if you need a hand. Moondyne 09:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Done Moondyne 13:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)