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Thanks for assisting me in updating the content. I am looking at an existing references and OMG, there's more! Please take a look at my questions at MT:MILHIST#Identifying medals.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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NC-4 Medal

Nice job of editing...Well done...Thanks!--Nyctc7 (talk) 00:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I recently picked up the Emering book US Navy and Marine Corps campaign and commemorative medals. for $4 on Amazon and found the legislation authorizing the medal in Wikisource so I figured it was time for some addition and improvement. EricSerge (talk) 01:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Who is notable on the article Navy and Marine Corps Medal ‎

One of the names removed from this article yesterday Navy and Marine Corps Medal Frederick J Barbero, Chief Electrician, saved an entire submarine and its men from being lost. I have the citation, the newspaper reference and several other documents which prove this. Also the submarine has its own Wikipedia article with some of this history in it. Does that not make him notable? USS_S-35_(SS-140) Fifth Patrol.

That is an excellent question. Typically individuals included on a list of "notable recipients" need to be notable to Wikipedia standards. For information on this see WP:GNG. Basically, if they have an article they are notable. I do not know the details, but Chief Barbero may fall under WP:BIO1E. However, I would say that this action is probably worth including in the USS S-35 (SS-140) article. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 15:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the information. Mugginsx (talk) 15:43, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I do not know how to contribute to a military-related article (unless it is medieval in nature!) but, if you know anyone interested in adding this information, I have his citation for bravery and other things I would be happy to send, even if it is just to do a personal assessment as to whether or not the information could be used in any way. Thanks. Mugginsx (talk) 16:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I am up to my rear-end in alligators at the moment at work, but this evening I may be able to sit down and take a look. I will hit you up for sources if I cannot find any. EricSerge (talk) 18:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
That is extremely kind of you. Please take your time. I hope by alligators you mean you are in warm tropical weather. It is quite cold here!
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I see your edit. Very, very kind of you. Mugginsx (talk) 15:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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Distinguished Warfare Medal

Hi! Just letting you know I passed it. Thanks for nominating! RetroLord 07:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I wasn't the nominator, but was glad to help out in the collaborative process. EricSerge (talk) 12:36, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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Autobiographer

Hi. That was a good and AGF message you left at User talk:Classic Skull. In case you wondered, the reason I left him a note about autobiography was that on another version of his article he wrote "i wrong spelled my own name.. i mean the upper case of my name.. example Tosan neavredith. i want Tosan Neavredith". Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

That is priceless. I suspected, based on the narrative style of writing, that it was an autobio or someone close to the subject. EricSerge (talk) 15:44, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Problem with GA nomination for Coast Guard Squadron One

Tag...you're it! Because of your interest in military and ships and things relating to such, as well as much editing on Coast Guard related articles I am asking for your assistance in getting the GAN to appear right on this articles talk page. This is the first article that I have substantially written that I have subbmitted for a GA review. I think the article is ready, but can't get the GA template to post right. If you or someone else could look into it, I will see where the chips fall as far as a GA review goes. Thanks Cuprum17 (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks like BlueMoonset got it working. I will give it a look after work tonight and keep my eyes open during the review. EricSerge (talk) 16:29, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Cuprum17 (talk) 17:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I couldn't see why you unlinked this entry, so I re-linked it. Otherwise I was about to tag the line as uncited. I can't see any reason not to include redirects in a list of names on Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy pages. – Fayenatic London 12:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

His page was redirected per, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamar Joseph Conner. Why I unlinked it I cannot remember, but if I were to do it again today, I would just remove it from the list. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I see, from the end of this list. Well done – I wish more people would bother with removing backlinks after AfD. I also agree with removing the entry from the list, and have now done so. – Fayenatic London 17:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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Ulster Defence Regiment Medal

I made the table of LS medals to default as 'collapsed'. The article just didn't look right when it defaulted open. Perhaps there were too many red (no links) within it?Gavin Lisburn (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Help me knock out some of those red links by starting articles. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 12:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the Wikilove. EricSerge (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for H.M. Coastguard Long Service and Good Conduct Medal

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Yeah it appears it was replaced by a commons image back in June 2012. EricSerge (talk) 00:21, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the "heads up" - I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Yes, I am interested - thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 17:01, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Added my 2 cents' worth. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:18, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you sir. EricSerge (talk) 12:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Eric Serge, if you check page B-1 of http://www.fas.org/irp/dni/icd/icd-655.pdf you'll see this literally replaced the National Intelligence Achievement Medal, which was not retired but was simply renamed in the 2012 ICD-655 memo. Thus, it might make sense to update the Wikipedia's title and say the National Intelligence Exceptional Achievement Medal was previously called the National Intelligence Achievement Medal however their rank, distinction, and everything else are one and in the same. Icd655 (talk) 04:30, 19 October 2013 (UTC) :The source you reference does not state that the NIAM and NIEAM are the same thing. In fact, the 2012 ICD-655 memo makes no reference to the NIAM. You are making a supposition that is not based on a reliable source. In reading DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE DIRECTIVE 7/1 that doc states that the National Intelligence Achievement Medal ranks directly below the National Intelligence DSM, directly contradicting your assertion of identical rank. EricSerge (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2013 (UTC)Discussion continued here: Talk:National Intelligence Achievement Medal

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Thanks, Serge. That was only my second edit and I did kinda botch it. Thanks for cleaning it up. How did you restore the deletions? OfficerMancuso (talk) 20:15, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

@OfficerMancuso: Thanks for the baklava! No worries about the edit. When you open the history tab in an article, there is a link to undo what you just did. The biggest thing is using the preview option before saving an edit, I have caught many mistakes that way. Cheers. EricSerge (talk) 23:27, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

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Your edit of Thad Allen

Eric, although Admiral Allen is pictured as not wearing the Coast Guard Presidential Unit Citation, is does not mean he wasn't awarded one. The link to ALCOAST 317/06 dated 091412Z JUN 06 states that all members of the Coast Guard whether active, reserve, auxiliary, or civilian were awarded the citation. Allen was on active duty at the time of Hurricane Katrina, therefore he his a awardee of the Coast Guard PUC according to paragraph 4 of the message...

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@Cuprum17:, I think I see it if I squint at the painting. I was basing the edit on pictures from his retirement ceremony in 2010, well after ALCOAST 317/06: File:Defense.gov photo essay 100525-N-0696M-092.jpg. ADM Papp wears it, but ADM Allen does not. EricSerge (talk) 21:29, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
sorry, I didn't know there was a discussion going on here about it. You're right, Allen's not wearing it there while Papp is (albeit in the wrong precedence place). Not sure what's going on, why wouldn't he be wearing it? He was in charge of the operation it was awarded for. hmm.... Odd. Gecko G (talk) 22:08, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
@Gecko G: Navy and Coast Guard seem to wear their ribbons backwards on the right side when wearing medals. I had never noticed this before. All ribbons are backwards as are devices. But, we digress.
Could it be because Allen was seconded to FEMA, initially as deputy and then as the Principal Federal Official for rescue and recovery operations? EricSerge (talk) 22:25, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
wow... looking again (at that picture and some other CG full dress pictures), you're right, they are "backwards" (relative to the Army & MC method). And you say the Navy's the same way?
good idea about the FEMA/Federal assignments, however, a) I don't think it works that way (though I'm not sure) & b) He would still be eligible for the period before Sept. 5th, right? I'm really not sure what is going on in that picture. Gecko G (talk) 23:21, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
@Gecko G: Here are pics of ADM Mullen in Full Dress Blue and Full Dress White uniforms with the same ribbon arrangement over the right side. I don't know that he is a good exemplar since he wears the RVN Gallantry Cross and Civil Actions medals, but when he wears ribbons they are the unit awards. EricSerge (talk) 00:53, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps he was seconded to FEMA, if he was then it was after the beginning date of eligibility. He continued to wear the uniform of a Coast Guard admiral during the time he was the Principal Federal Official. That being said, if he doesn't claim it or wear it, then who am I to say that it needs to be in the article. I will point out that Coast Guard Regulations state that if ribbons or medals are worn then there are three choices for wear at the wearers discretion; The top three in order of precedence, the top nine in order of precedence, or ALL of the medals authorized in order of precedence. I am sure that the admiral's aide, who would be responsible for his boss's uniform appearance would know this. As a side note, I wear all my ribbons that I am authorized from both Army and Coast Guard service including the Coast Guard PUC. I went on reserve orders September 10, 2005 just making the cut off. Cheers... Cuprum17 (talk) 23:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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