User talk:Dtetta

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	I wanted to thank you for initiating the effort to improve readability of climate change. I had no idea how many monstrous sentences we had in the article. If successful, hundreds of thousands more people will get access to the information. Each year. Femke (talk) 14:44, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Femke! Dtetta (talk) 21:39, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		Thank you for your contributions to climate-related articles and discussions. If you already have this barnstar, I will be happy to provide a different one. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 20:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Dtetta (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Happy holidays

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		Wishing you a Happy holiday season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Christmas card is not an upside down photo. Femke (talk) 18:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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If you want a challenge

I just found Cooperative Mechanisms under Article 6 of the Paris Agreement Chidgk1 (talk) 17:35, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks Chidgk1 - Agree that would be a good article to work on. It’s currently on the “See also” list of the Carbon accounting article, but glad you reminded me - just added a wikilink to it from the text in the drivers section:) Dtetta (talk) 20:23, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Fine thanks for asking

replied in full at User:Chidgk1 Chidgk1 (talk) 07:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Help For environment.wiki

Hi, Noticing you contribute quite a bit here, thanks! Wondering if you could spare 5-10 minutes and look at environment.wiki and give your thoughts on the project. It's mission is different than Wikipedia - it is a database of environmental actions and meant to help people more quickly find groups actively doing working in the environment and people can put their own projects up ( almost needed by necessity) Thank you for any advice/time - Cheers Phill TheFeels (talk) 18:52, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks! Dtetta (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Carbon accounting

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DYK for Carbon accounting

On 29 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carbon accounting, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that laughing gas is serious stuff in carbon accounting? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carbon accounting. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carbon accounting), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Your edit to Carbon capture and storage has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 21:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Diannaa -Please explain how you see this as a copyright violation. The paragraph on mintz.com reads:

”To mitigate the most severe impacts of the climate crisis, many scientists have emphasized the importance of not only reducing emissions, but also removing carbon from the atmosphere. Carbon capture technologies are crucial to this effort – and Biden’s infrastructure bill may provide the funding necessary to realize carbon removal solutions. The Law allocates $2.54 billion for demonstration projects related to carbon capture at coal- and natural gas-fired operations and $937 million for large-scale carbon capture pilot projects. To address the significant need for infrastructure devoted to capturing CO2, the Law provides $3.5 billion over five years for projects that help to develop four regional hubs to capture CO2 from the atmosphere and then transport, store, and use it. An additional $600 million is available in fiscal 2022 and 2023, and $300 million each year thereafter through fiscal 2026, to provide loan guarantees and secured loans supporting infrastructure projects to transport CO2.”

My paragraph reads:”

In the US, a number of laws and rules have been issued to either support or require the use of CCS technologies. The 2021 Infrastructure, Investment and Jobs Act provides $2.54 billion for demonstration projects related to carbon capture at coal- and natural gas-fired operations and $937 million for large-scale carbon capture pilot projects. In addition, $3.5 billion was allocated to develop four regional hubs to capture CO2 from the atmosphere and then transport, store, and use it. An additional $600 million provides loan guarantees supporting infrastructure projects to transport CO2.”

Mintz is just reporting the same basic statistics that a number of other sources report about this law. I summarized that information, using my own words. Do I need to use different wording? Or do you see a problem citing those numbers? Your criticism does not make sense to me. Dtetta (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree with you, Dtetta, that your contribution is not a violation of copyright or any reasonably interpreted Wikipedia policy. The presentation of statistics using essentially unavoidable technical/legalistic language/descriptions, or a specific choice of statistics, are not violations of copyright. I'd be interested in seeing how Diannaa would re-phrase the description—while retaining the substance of the content. She was not able to do so on my page without missing the mark completely on what substance was trying to be communicated (diff). She may be trying to raise consciousness on the issue, but is overstepping. —RCraig09 (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

You can view the overlap using Earwig's tool. In my opinion this is a copyrioght violation, as the content goes beyond a simple presentation of numerical data and contains enough creativity to qualify for copyright protection. — Diannaa (talk) 00:06, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that support RCraig09. Diannaa - when I clicked on the Earwig link you provided, it said “violation unlikely”. In that case I think most editors would consider the text being evaluated as ok to use. Nevertheless, I revised the wording to further reduce any copyright violation potential, and reinserted those sentences. Let me know if you still have concerns. One question I have is how do you find that edit ID to insert into the tool? Dtetta (talk) 14:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Pleople who do copyright cleanup don't look at the percentage at all. It's meaningless. What I do is look at the actual overlapping content to make my decision. — Diannaa (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Copyright investigations involve analysis of the copyrighted work as a whole. (See U.S. Copyright Office's description of factors for fair use—which permits outright copying: "Factor 3: Amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole".) Under Diannaa's cherry-picking approach, by writing "George Washington was the first president" you would infringe a 10,000-word source that said "George Washington was the first president". —RCraig09 (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Great perspective - thanks RCraig09! Dtetta (talk) 17:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Also: Diannaa's approach, "you must write using your own words", involves superseding the professional/technical knowledge and writing skill of the reliable source, with the understanding and writing skill of a typical Wikipedian. This substitution is a special problem in technical/scientific areas, or whenever there are few or no other terms to faithfully present the content. Her subsequent rewrite on my page missed the mark completely on what substance I was trying to communicate. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Dtetta], Wikipedia has a very strict copyright policy, stricter in some ways than copyright law itself, because our fair use policy does not allow us to copy material from copyright sources when there's a freely licensed alternative available. In this case the freely licensed material is prose that we write ourselves. You must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. If you are not able to do that, please don't add it. — Diannaa (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC) Adding: I see you have now re-written the content in your own words. — Diannaa (talk) 20:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes - that is what I said I did in my earlier comment. Dtetta (talk) 00:33, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Diannaa - I received a notice that you made an edit today on the CCS page with this description "Editor's summary: RD1: Violations of copyright policy". You seem to have done this after I adjusted the text to deal with your concerns. It doesn't seem like you changed any text with this edit, but it's just a notation of some sort on the page. What does this mean? RCraig09 - do you know what this means? Dtetta (talk) 06:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I performed revision deletion on the edits that violated copyright, not on the new version, which appears to be okay from a copyright point of view. Edits from 15:49, September 21, 2023‎ to the point of removal are now hidden from view. — Diannaa (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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