User talk:Cielquiparle/Archive 4

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Nonmarital sex

Premarital sex#Definition seems to indicate that non-marital sex (the hyphenated form) is a near-synonym, so why should this term redirect to Human sexuality instead? That other article does not seem to mention the term at all.

For context, the term "nonmarital sex" is used in Media and American adolescent sexuality#Effects of the media on beliefs about sex, and I think Premarital sex is an appropriate target in that case. PleaseStand (talk) 18:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@PleaseStand From what you're saying (and from what those pages say), it's a broad term that could redirect to several different places – it hardly seems automatic that it would only redirect to Premarital sex. (If we were being really picky about it, it could be a set index page!) But sure, go ahead and change it back. At least the #Definition section acknowledges that it's a broad term that overlaps with other definitions. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

OK, I changed it back. Maybe, I will see if I can find sources and write an article specifically about the term, if I can find the time to do so. PleaseStand (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Michael Vogt

Hello, Cielquiparle,

Please look more closely at a page history before tagging an article for deletion. This page was an ordinary redirect and an editor blanked the page. So, it was not an "empty article", there was a blanking that should have been reverted. A look at the page history would have made this immediately apparent so I'm not sure how you missed it. I Know your editing from your thoughtful participation in AFD discussions so I hope you bring that care and attentio to page patrolling. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@Liz In fact I did see this and I commented on the article Talk page. Should I have sent to AfD or elsewhere instead? Cielquiparle (talk) 05:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Taiwanese Americans in the San Francisco Bay Area

Hi I see you were working on reviewing this article a while back. I’m looking at articles from 15 October today because today is the last possible day to draftify anything in the NPP queue from that date. I thought this article might be appropriate to send to draft for improvement - what’s your view? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 08:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

@Mccapra Draftification is an excellent solution. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Favor?

Am I right in remembering from Nihon Shōgakkō fire that you have some competence in Japanese? If yes, could you confirm that File:Jōhana radium spring in 1931.jpg does in fact mention something about radium? It totally tracks and the period is right but I don't read Japanese and wanted to make sure this image is okay to use on radium fad. Sorry to impose! Thank you for any help you can offer. jengod (talk) 22:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jengod Correct, ラジウム (printed on the card itself as ラジューム) refers to radium. Interesting article. On another note, if/when you have a moment, could you please take a look at Anti-Americanism among African Americans? (It's missing a lot of history.) Cielquiparle (talk) 00:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

1. TY @Cielquiparle! @ForsythiaJo quadrupled what was a 3-sentence stub I threw together after working on some springs articles including Radium Sulphur Springs 2. Of course I'll take a look. I wish I could promise to be able to contribute to its improvement!! jengod (talk) 00:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Come to think of it @Jengod, thanks for your fixes to Clair Cline – I had been hoping that the DYK process would drag on for longer so I would have more time to work on it but I guess the topic was too exciting/novel. To be clear, I haven't touched the Anti-Americanism article yet – I also mean to try to help fix it but am not sure I will find the time. Cielquiparle (talk) 00:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh very glad to help. It was a v cool story and I'm glad my facility in digging around genealogy DBs was of some use! jengod (talk) 03:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cleo Damianakes

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Your GA nomination of Cleo Damianakes

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@Bruxton Thank you for your review. I believe I have responded to addressed all of your comments so far. If some of the points are deal breakers, we can expand the article as needed. We can discuss when you return. Have a good trip. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

A peace dove for you

Hi Cielquiparle, I am glad to see your participation after what feels like awhile at AfD, because I consider your contributions thoughtful, well-researched and focused on building the encyclopedia. But I am sorry the recent discussion seems to have become a bit personalized, so I am writing to reiterate my respect and appreciation for your contributions. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 17:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Appreciated @Beccaynr. I would just ask you this: You have eight articles about non-profit organizations listed on your User page. If all those articles were nominated for deletion tomorrow, would you be confident that they would satisfy the extreme standard of WP:ORG that you are advocating? I would argue that they would not. There is almost no information about a nonprofit that doesn't actually originate from the nonprofit itself; most of the coverage tends to quote directors and staff of the nonprofit; and even if nonprofits are promoting specific causes, you could easily have other editors arguing that any articles about a specific cause is about the cause, not the nonprofit itself and thus doesn't count, or that the articles are too promotional, or not in-depth enough about the organization, or that they focus on "routine" events that are not particularly relevant or are too news-driven, or that it's not comprehensive enough to write an entire article (when the policy specifically says the article needs to contain enough information to write more than "a very brief, incomplete stub"). IMO, it's possible to poke holes in any source. It's important to consider the "why" behind the policy and how it actually works in practice, not just enforce dogma. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

For nonprofit organizations, the WP:NONPROFIT section of the guideline applies, and please note I do not think it will be productive to debate each of those articles on your user talk page. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 22:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@Beccaynr "Usually notable" is not the same as "notable". Cielquiparle (talk) 22:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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