User talk:Carmelobrianza

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Carmelobrianza (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is 2a01:4f8:120:3247::2. I was not able to find the block request in the archive. Carmelobrianza (talk) 14:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You'll need to disable your use of the proxy if you wish to edit here. Yamla (talk) 15:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I am not showing a block on this account. Please copy and paste the exact message that appears when you attempt to edit; I think that the IP address you provided is only a partial one. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Editing from 2A01:4F8:0:0:0:0:0:0/32 has been blocked (disabled) by Ivanvector for the following reason(s):The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open or anonymizing proxy. To prevent abuse, these proxies may be blocked from editing Wikipedia." The IP address is the one given by whatismyipaddress.com and "ip -6 a"Carmelobrianza (talk) 14:59, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you editing through a VPN? 331dot (talk) 15:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing through an ssh tunnel Carmelobrianza (talk) 15:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to leave this open for someone more knowledgeable than I, but as I understand SSH tunnelling it can be used to implement a VPN- and editing through a VPN is not permitted which is probably why the IP range is blocked as a proxy. 331dot (talk) 15:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nuance[edit]

Sorry to bother you again User:Ivanvector, this will be the last. Again regarding the range block of User:2a01:4f8::/32. I understand blocking anonymous edits from this range, I understand blocking user registration from this range, but why blocking registered users from this range? is there no way to let registered users edit from this range? by the way, thanks for your work :) Carmelobrianza (talk) 15:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Carmelobrianza, thanks for the question, and don't worry about bothering me :) Most range blocks are "anon-only", meaning that registered users will still be able to edit if they happen to be editing from the blocked range, but we also have the option to disable that. It's disabled for this range because the abuse on this range is from users who usually create new accounts. If we block the range but allow registered editing then the block is pointless. Our policy on this starts at Wikipedia:Open proxies. We don't necessarily block all proxy services, but when they're used abusively and the provider doesn't respond to abuse reports, it's the only tool we have to stop disruption unfortunately. It can be an inconvenience to legitimate users but since this is a service they have to enable, we can just tell them to disable it if they want to edit. We do try to weigh the inconvenience against the disruption, but on this particular range I'm looking at users who have a long history of harassment and other violent threats which have resulted in authorities being contacted in several countries on several occasions, and so I'm not willing to unblock or reduce the block. (This is a range I would block permanently if I could)

For the legitimate user who wants to edit from this service, or needs to because of government censorship, there are a couple of options:

Turn off the service. If they're not connecting through the proxy service they won't be on that IP range and won't be blocked. If they're logged in through a network that uses it as a network proxy, or they're behind a government firewall that restricts access to Wikipedia, then this won't help.
Use a different service. The vast majority of webhost services are not blocked by Wikipedia, because we only block in response to abuse.
Request an IP block exemption. If they already have an account and can demonstrate need, they can have the IP block exemption flag added to their account, which will let them edit from blocked ranges. See the link for instructions. If they don't already have an account, they can try to create one by disabling the proxy service, or if they cannot then they will have to request an account through ACC, which is unfortunately very seriously backlogged. Once they have an account they can request IPBE.

I hope that helps, and do let me know if I can be of any more assistance. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:25, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]