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A tag has been placed on John McLellan (composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Hello Baishan17 -- I've moved this to draftspace so that you can continue to develop it to show the subject's notability. You can edit it at Draft:John McLellan (composer). What is needed is reliable sourcing from books, newspaper/magazine articles and similar. Blogs and fan-type self-published websites do not usually count. If you need help, you can ask questions at the Teahouse, a friendly forum for new editors. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on John McLellan (composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://pipingpress.com/2016/11/23/famous-pipers-master-composer-pm-john-mclellan-dunoon/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Praxidicae (talk) 15:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The page Draft:John McLellan (composer) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from pipingpress.com/2016/11/23/famous-pipers-master-composer-pm-john-mclellan-dunoon. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, you may contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you may open a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion Review Primefac (talk) 16:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting versus copying[edit]

Your draft Speedy deleted twice for copyright infringement. Referenced sources can be used to get information, but the content needs to be significantly reworded in your own words. "Permission" does not count. Very limited amounts of content can be quoted, basically what a person said, but not informational content from a website. David notMD (talk) 17:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David is quite right. My somewhat more blunt reply to your question at the Teahouse is that you have repeatedly broken copyright laws by stealing text content from copyright sources and releasing them here on Wikipedia, which you have absolutely no legal right so to do. You may think you havem but he website says it's copyright. So even if you were the one who wrote it and put it there, you may still not copy it onto Wikipedia whilst that licence remains in force. Very annoyingly, you have repeated this infringement and that, too, was speedily deleted. Copyright theft is one of the most serious abuses you can make on Wikipedia, and you will have your editing rights permanently withdrawn if you do that again!
You need to understand, not only how to properly edit and lay out a page (your deleted version was probably the worst I've ever seen here), but you also need to read WP:COPYVIO and WP:PARAPHRASE to understand that you MUST put content on Wikipedia in your own words and never, ever closely copy other articles. If you are insistent on trying to create an article about this man, please do yourself a favour by learning the basics of editing first. Read and work through Help:Introduction, then learn the simple task of using the 'Cite' button in the editing tool at add proper inline citations. Follow this shortcut to learn how to do that: WP:REFBEGIN, or read the guide I wrote on the same subject at WP:ERB. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived[edit]

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Hi Baishan17! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Pipe Major John McLellan DCM of Dunoon, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread.


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Information icon Hello, Baishan17. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Pipe Major John McLellan DCM of Dunoon (Composer), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]